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Post by Jim on Jun 18, 2016 0:27:54 GMT 9
rocky, I drug this from Lorin from another topic for you..... The old sarge... I guess you missed the main part of the time of flight. The normal time of flight was 6 sec. The enemy bomber would not even have time to react to a minimum time of flight attack. The escape procedure for the F-106 after deploying MB-1 was to do snap roll and pull max G pull to get started on turning away from blast. The six would then ride the shock wave away from blast like a giant surf board. Most pilots figured it was a last ditch hope to not be part of blast. Probably a good thing the six never fired a live MB-1 Genie. Lorin
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Post by Jim on Jun 18, 2016 0:22:29 GMT 9
It sounds like the best tactic for the target bomber would be to fly at the Genie and hope he collides with it before the end of the timed flight, and hope the impact does more damage to the missile than it does to the bomber. Not easy to do, I'm sure, but maybe easier than getting out of its kill zone. Tom Clancy did it with torpedos in Hunt for the Red October. It would be an interesting debriefing: "The target survived because the missile hit it." Sinking a ship with a Genie might work. There would be a 50-50 chance that the time of flight to the target would be less than the calculated flight time. If the actual flight time is longer, the missile hits the target (or water) and the Genie breaks. But if its shorter, there would be a detonation, probably disabling the ship, even if it didn't actually sink. If the rocket failed to ignite, I expect hitting the ground would be more than 4 gs. Did the 4 gs have to be from a forward acceleration? Best I can recall, (almost 60 years ago is a LONG time) the Genie was a proximity type of weapon in that it didn't have to hit any thing to explode, the concussion and the heat generated would take care of anything in its range.If the motor failed to ignite, a step in the sequence was missing and it would be in a "fail Safe" mode. Hypothetical questions seem to reappear, but they generate some response.. The Old Sarge
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Post by Jim on Jun 17, 2016 12:45:46 GMT 9
Attachment DeletedGene, this what I got when I clicked on add attachment- it took me to my pictures, I clicked on this and then clicked on Open or Save , I don't remember, it took me back to the forum, it loaded and I clicked on insert and done. Try putting your photos in documents or pictures where you can be directed to that section when you click on Add Attachment. If I can navigate this, it should be really easy for anybody else. The OLD Sarge
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Post by Jim on Jun 14, 2016 0:27:27 GMT 9
Would the Genie detonate if it actually hit something? Besides the obvious possibility of hitting a bomber, if it was launched against a low altitude target and impacted the ground, would it detonate, or just smash itself to bits? What if the rocket motor failed to ignite? Its often the case that weapons are used against things they were never intended for. IR homing AIM missiles have been known to have been used against trucks in Vietnam. I imagine a Genie could take out a bridge or a ship if it would actually detonate when it hit. The MB-1 was an unguided rocket. It had safety features to prevent inadvertent detonation. The rocket motor would not fire unless a landyard pulled a pin during it's drop from missile bay. Then the engine would fire. The MA-1/AN-ASQ25 would set the parameters for rocket at C time during launch. That set the most important parameter the "Time of flight" before detonation. The warhead had to have all of the right parameters as well as pull 4 g (as I recall) before another pin was pulled allowing nuke detonation after time of flight. It took all of these to allow for detonation. So the guy on ground with a hammer pounding on warhead would not set it off, nor would hitting something before it's time of flight. Correct me if I missed something Lorin Not that I am aware of Lorin. The many hours of training that I went through to become a load chief (against my will, what with all the pro-pay and EARLY promoted people we had in the squadron), we were taught that even if, some how the lugs or hooks should fail after it was hung and it should fall, the primary concern was for damage to the weapon, NOT detonation. I started out as an augmentee leader that opened the coffins and attached the handling cradle to the missiles. As a TSgt, I was the highest ranking laborer during mass loads, then I became the highest ranking load chief, augmentee or genuine weapons guy. For f89 guy, Did you get in touch with Ralph concerning getting the Genie off his F89? You never mentioned it.......
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Post by Jim on Jun 13, 2016 13:03:52 GMT 9
Found the Snake, he is alive, but has been busier than a one legged grave digger in January in Alaska.............. Elaborate please.
Pat P.
check your email
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Post by Jim on Jun 13, 2016 4:02:29 GMT 9
HEY, SNAKE, have a HAPPY BIRTHDAYThe Old Sarge Found the Snake, he is alive, but has been busier than a one legged grave digger in January in Alaska..............
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Post by Jim on Jun 13, 2016 3:24:43 GMT 9
HEY, SNAKE, have a HAPPY BIRTHDAYThe Old Sarge
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Post by Jim on Jun 10, 2016 23:27:03 GMT 9
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Post by Jim on Jun 10, 2016 6:56:16 GMT 9
Did you guys know I have a scroller on the homepage of the website www.f-106deltadart.com/ of This Day in Aviation events? Sure we do, but we aren't in it, so I decided to become famous on my own
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Post by Jim on Jun 10, 2016 2:18:55 GMT 9
Why Manhattan Beach AFS? Were you coming back from Pacific and it was time to reenlist? Was MB AFS used in 1956 rather than Travis AFB?
Glad you fought the system and got it changed.
Pat P.
Coming from the Atlantic side, you landed at McGuire AFB and rode a shuttle bus to Manhattan Island. Now the home of forgotten-ny.com/2013/07/kingsborough-community-college-manhattan-beach/
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Post by Jim on Jun 10, 2016 0:13:58 GMT 9
Today, but 60 years ago, SSgt James E. Gier, AF 12413881 arrived at Manhattan Beach Air Force Station (old Merchant Marine Academy) for discharge and reenlistment in the AF with 27th FIS at Griffiss AFB assignment. Entered a battle with an old 1st Sgt about NCOs pulling KP. Battle continued to a brand new Gold Bar and then to a Captain (sqdn CO) that had to have been in the Roman Legion, he was that old. When informed that I would take my discharge and travel at my expense to Griffiss and reenlist, I was discharged, reenlisted and on my way to the airport to go home on leave that afternoon. No KP...... Policy change resulted, reenlistees, regardless of rank no longer pulled KP.
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Post by Jim on Jun 8, 2016 23:50:07 GMT 9
Reminds me of the size of the hogs they raise around Suwon and transport on those INDUSTRIAL bicycles!!!!!!!!
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Post by Jim on Jun 8, 2016 2:30:49 GMT 9
THE INVENTOR OF THE BACKUP SENSOR------
NO WONDER IT WORKS SO WELL------
I bet you think it was Ford, maybe GM, how about Chrysler? no, then how about Mercedes Benz??? No!! it was a Chinese farmer!!
Most of the newest cars have a Back-Up Sensor that warns the driver before the rear bumper actually comes in contact with something.
Most people probably think that this valuable feature came out of the minds of engineers, but it was recently disclosed that the concept was first developed by a Chinese farmer.
His invention was simple and effective. It emits a high-pitched squeal when the vehicle backs into something. lh5.googleusercontent.com/-esGe0xRKPq4/VFHFxp4tzDI/AAAAAAAAF_I/wDtZm2PXI0A/s2560/1414645187530.jpeg
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Post by Jim on Jun 5, 2016 22:48:24 GMT 9
Easy Pat.... this is from Sandy's kindle , with a flip top........
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Post by Jim on Jun 5, 2016 22:44:43 GMT 9
thanks Gene... looking for more photos.
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Post by Jim on Jun 1, 2016 1:26:56 GMT 9
Jim, what's a slush pump? Trombone!!!!!!!!!!! And MArv is a coordinated slushpump operator, IE, he can tap his foot in time with moving the pump handle.........
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Post by Jim on Jun 1, 2016 0:03:38 GMT 9
OSwald - I told my wife that if there is anyone present who plays a bagpipe at MY funeral - I WILL come back to haunt her for the rest of her life! I consider myself a pretty accomplished musician and tolerant of many things - BUT - Someone who plays a concoction that resembles and sounds like a person carrying two little pigs in a gunny sack under their arm with both of them squealing their heads off is NOT a musician in any way - shape - or form! NUFF SAID! MArv The old man that posted this diatribe is a slush pump player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Jim on May 31, 2016 13:46:04 GMT 9
Wife having knee replacement surgery tomorrow. I'll be grounded for about 2 months taking care of her. I'd like to help , but can't at this time. Sorry. Got Belinda and you in our prayers my friend....... The Old Sarge
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Post by Jim on May 31, 2016 11:45:44 GMT 9
the plan: friday i will pick up glen and escort him to the museum at mcchord...bullhunter has been notified of this...we'll see how this turns out... Putting a check in the mail to you tomorrow. Will be going out of town and out of computer contact 2,3, 4 and 5 Jun...... Hipkins Road correct?
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Post by Jim on May 31, 2016 9:49:44 GMT 9
A father buys a lie detector robot that slaps people when they lie.
The father asks his son what he did that afternoon.
The son says, "I did some schoolwork."
The robot slaps the son.
The son says, "Ok, Ok. I was at a friend's house watching movies."
Dad asks, "What movie did you watch?"
Son says, "Toy Story."
The robot slaps the son.
Son says, "Ok, Ok, we were watching porn."
Dad says, "What? At your age I didn’t even know what porn was."
The robot slaps the father.
Mom laughs and says, "Well, he certainly is your son."
The robot slaps the mother.
Robot for sale
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