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Apr 9, 2020 5:47:13 GMT 9
Post by Jim on Apr 9, 2020 5:47:13 GMT 9
You sure about this? ??
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Apr 9, 2020 7:16:23 GMT 9
Post by Bullhunter on Apr 9, 2020 7:16:23 GMT 9
You sure about this??? Yep, the 318th had the best T-33's and this one I had flown in. Its now at the McChord Air Museum. |
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Apr 19, 2020 9:32:50 GMT 9
Post by Jim on Apr 19, 2020 9:32:50 GMT 9
Whatzit
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Apr 19, 2020 11:16:24 GMT 9
Post by LBer1568 on Apr 19, 2020 11:16:24 GMT 9
Six-shooter shooter
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Apr 19, 2020 11:50:37 GMT 9
Post by Jim on Apr 19, 2020 11:50:37 GMT 9
How many known to exist? Where is this one located?
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Apr 19, 2020 22:33:53 GMT 9
Post by LBer1568 on Apr 19, 2020 22:33:53 GMT 9
Only Heaven knows...
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Post by Jim on Apr 20, 2020 0:31:22 GMT 9
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Post by LBer1568 on Feb 2, 2021 3:36:22 GMT 9
 Here is a Six with MA-1 crew chief id on left front Electronics Bay (MA-1 RADAR). It had to be the ANG because we never got our name on as MA-1 Guy. Back when I worked them they were broke so often, the MA-1 Blue Driver assigned us to fix matched to our ability. So we seldom worked on same bird from day to day. An exception was in 539th FIS I mostly worked the B-models. Ours were "Round Eye's" and they were original issue configuration as ours was first squadron with the Six. Their were a lot of differences between A model and B Model as well as a chit load of differences between Round eyes and vertical instrument birds. After I was reassigned to Tyndall if any Round eyes were broke...I got them, next choice was B models. At Tyndall we had a lot of B models. So I usually worked B model round eyes. So when I got to Osan, they had Vertical Instruments and a couple B models. So I got the B models first, then next hardest fix. As time went on, they modded the six to keep making it better. Updated electronics. But talking to some ANG MA-1 guys, the best fix was the gold plated connector pins replacement. Many times the only fix we did was reseat a block box as the original connectors were getting worn out or surface corrosion. So they did a depot update to replace connectors with the gold plated pins. Made a great improvement. Does anyone remember the late 1960's when all the potting compound on electrical connectors started running out of connector and onto anything nearby. We spent over a year systematically replacing the potting compound. That was a dirty messy time consuming job. I didn't get put on that detail very often as I was one of better MA-1 fixers. I usually worked Quick Fix to get them fixed on launch and then try to fix them on return so we didn't have to get Power and Air hooked up. Most pilots knew we worked long hours so they would usually let us try to fix. Out Blue 1 vans carried many of common things that broke Mostly Comm/NAV and Computer. We have gotten snow every day this weekend as well as now. But it hasn't gotten deep, mostly very light and blowing. Lorin |
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Post by Jim on Feb 2, 2021 4:24:47 GMT 9
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Post by Jim on Feb 2, 2021 4:33:43 GMT 9
Lorin, Does anyone remember the late 1960's when all the potting compound on electrical connectors started running out of connector and onto anything nearby. We spent over a year systematically replacing the potting compound....................... Yep, All of the SEA F-4s ended up going through Yokota AB repotting depot 1967-1969- I was there...
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Feb 7, 2021 4:55:02 GMT 9
Post by Jim on Feb 7, 2021 4:55:02 GMT 9
This is a interesting picture off facebook of an F-86 at McChord AFB, WA. It was stated by the poster that it was used to tow target darts. I had to be 1950's or 60's vintage as the jets at McChord in the 1970's all had radar and fired guided rockets.
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Feb 7, 2021 5:24:03 GMT 9
Post by LBer1568 on Feb 7, 2021 5:24:03 GMT 9
Yes Jim, even the six had a gun. But not until late 69-70 time frame. But the local bases did not have tow targets at that time. The six used tow targets early in program, but went on to drones. But even the Fire Bee (2 models) were considered unmanned drones. www.northropgrumman.com/bqm-34-firebee/I was looking through my past APR's a few weeks back and during a two year period 69-70 my work with the 4750th Test Sq at Tyndall was the theme of the APR's. I was the MA-1 Crew Chief for the B-model 58-902. I also worked many hours on 795...the first Gun Six Shooter. I did the boresight for first live fire and worked with the Convair Test Team to change boresight to compensate for shells trajectory, which was much different in flight due to airspeed when fired. We ended up raising the boresight several degrees so it worked with the new heads up optical sight they installed. Those were some good times. I started working with them on my return from Osan TDY. Lorin |
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Feb 7, 2021 9:47:42 GMT 9
Post by Bullhunter on Feb 7, 2021 9:47:42 GMT 9
I never saw a F-106 at McChord with a gun.
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Feb 7, 2021 12:56:23 GMT 9
Post by Jim on Feb 7, 2021 12:56:23 GMT 9
I never saw a F-106 at McChord with a gun.
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Post by pat perry on Feb 7, 2021 23:07:37 GMT 9
I never saw a F-106 at McChord with a gun.
www.f-106deltadart.com/weapons_20mm_cannon.htm
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Another update from Marty Isham. Marty then called me and had received word from Walt Houghton that he couldn't find out how many guns were produced by GE at Essex Junction, Vermont but was still checking contacts. So it appears that every vertical tape F-106 A (no B Models) were modified to accept the gun mod. That would mean that whenever the vertical tapes began production in 1958 through the 1959 models was gun capable but it does not answer how many guns were made. Before he died, Erv Smalley compiled list of all vertical tape aircraft showing that some 1957 model Sixes were converted to vertical tape instruments, but they were all B models (no guns). See notes showing which aircraft were affected, noting that ALL 1958 and 1959 models were vertical tape instruments. So, we know that all 1958-59 A models were gun capable. In Wings of Fame Vol 12: 58-0795 was the first aircraft gun prototype and the second was 59-0092. All round eye Sixes continued with the Genie capability which ended in 1985. The last squadrons to fly gun equipped Sixes were ANG squadrons at Otis AFB, MA and Great Falls Montana. Note: Marty Isham is listed in the WOF magazine credits for his contributions to the F-106 section and widely recognized as the leading authority on ADC. Marty's most recent book, USAF Interceptors - A Military Photo Logbook (1946-1979)was compiled by Marty and David McLaren in 2010. So, the real question is how many gun modules were made for the F-106? Hopefully Walt Houghton can find the answer for us. P. Perry
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Marty Isham has found the answers to our F-106 gun questions: How many were made by GE for the F-106 and what aircraft type received them ? On 12-11-13 Marty Isham wrote: "A total of 75 guns were made by contract at GE. They were used in only vertical instrumented a/c. Found the info in a FY 75 ADC History... Marty". Marty is relentless in his research! Pat P.
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Post by LBer1568 on Feb 8, 2021 0:59:54 GMT 9
318fis.com/318TH%20FIS%20-%20PERSONNEL%20-%20DETACHMENT%20COMMANDERS%20-%20DUFRESNE.htm F-106 Aircraft, except the initial mods flown on 795, had the clear canopy for better vision. The 318 FIS took William Tell in 1982 using Six Shooter Aircraft. Many articles talk about the Six Shooter being started in 1972, but we were flying 795 and one other Six at Tyndall from about 1969. The B Models couldn't mount the Gun because of the "Coffin" rack, the electronics rack between the front two missile racks. The round eye birds used a slightly different Air Data Computer units and did not provide best data. Lorin |
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Feb 8, 2021 1:03:40 GMT 9
Post by LBer1568 on Feb 8, 2021 1:03:40 GMT 9
Man this brings back good memories of the Original F-106 Base, the 539th FIS at McGuire.  Lorin |
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