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Post by lindel on Jan 29, 2009 21:10:29 GMT 9
Still takes two hands to fly a 6...
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Post by Jeff Shannon on Jan 30, 2009 0:24:06 GMT 9
Very nice Thanks for sharing!! :thanks :thanks
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Post by Bullhunter on Feb 6, 2009 4:34:06 GMT 9
NATO War Games. Usually lasted about a week and a few times 10 days. Bummer, as we always went 12 plus shifts. A troop in ditch. This is a pic of me taking cover in a ditch with a co-worker. Another co-worker took our photo with my camera. There were plenty of ditchs to take cover in. One NATO War Game day I recall very well. All was going normal. We were launching and recovering our aircraft. I was up on top of my aircraft refueling it when the warning siron sounded. This warning was always followed by an air attack. During my first war game German F-104's simulated straffing the base and hit their afterburners to make plenty of noise. that was 1979 and I could not believe some country was still flying F-104's. Anyway back to the story at hand. As the alarm warning sounded I let off on the fuel nozzle to stop the flow of fuel. I looked around and quickly noticed an F-4 pop-up above the horzion bank and head for the base. My first thought was to get out my 110 instant camera and get a few good photos as I was in a great place ontop of the OV-10A Bronco. My next thought was "Oh $hit" as I watched the F-4 Phantom Jet swoop down low over the farmer's field just outside the bases security fence. The attacking jet line up with the row of aircraft - and my aircraft was in that row at the end. I recall thinking to myself and very quickly, "That nut is going to straff this row and be about 35 - 45 feet above the aircraft. I don't want to be up here!" I remember thinking, "$hit, I'm out of here!" As I layed the fuel hose nozzle down on the wing. As I started egressed off the top of the wing I noticed the weight of the hose hanging off the top of the wing was pulling the hose & fuel nozzle off the aircraft wing also. My next thought was. i'm going to avoid geting blown off the wing by the jet's air wash or exhaust only to get hit with that dam fuel nozzle. Next thing that happened was a big boom and a rise in tempature as I landed on the tarmac and did a (tuck and roll). The F-4 Phantom jet had passes over hitting his 2 jet engine afterburners and zoomed up and out of the area. I layed on the tarmac looking around to see if anyone was watching. I didn't notice anybody, but did notice the fuel nozzle laying on the tarmac just behind me. Had I not tucked and rolled it likely would have hit me in the head. The row of OV-10A Bronco aircraft. I have too admit, that I do miss the friendships and the excitment of it all from time to time. Don't you?
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Feb 6, 2009 10:14:42 GMT 9
: Well, Bullhunter, getting zapped by Phantom burner exhaust may not be the most fun thing to do as a way to make your life exciting. However, it is immeasurably better than our guys who had to hit the tarmac when a Me109 came down the line with all guns blazing away. Closest I ever came was rocket attacks at DaNang. Nope, they were not any fun , either. Had to hit the ditch a couple of times and wondered what kind of snake was going to be sharing the ditch with me, cobra or krait. :thumbsdown
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Post by Bullhunter on Feb 6, 2009 12:41:25 GMT 9
My cousin was a U.S. Marine in Vietnam. He said they had a snake over there nicknamed "two-stepper". If it bit you about all you could did is maybe two steps. Was that a Krait ?
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Feb 6, 2009 13:49:17 GMT 9
Yep, Two-step was the krait. One step was the cobra. My first acquaintance with them was at Ubon RTAFB, Thailand. The guys working the bomb dump never put their hands under the bombs without a good look. Saw cobras swimming in a klong one day while riding my Pooying Honda along the dirt road along side. One was following the reflection from the red paint. In Bangkok is the Pasteur Institute Herpetarium. You can go there and watch the handlers milk the various snakes. Was OK to watch, but didn't want to get too close. At street fairs there was always a snake charmer, with a cobra in a basket. He would take the lid off and blow his flute and the cobra would come up and flare the skin below the head. Very pretty snake. But, very dangerous. Not only were there snakes to beware of in SE Asia. There were incidents in Nam of troops being stalked by tigers. Seeing we didn't have any ground fighting in Thailand, the big cats were not a problem. There were, however, areas where wild elephants still roamed, along with the gaur. The gaur is a wild cow that can be pretty cantankerous. All part of the fun of fighting a war Washington didn't want to win. In an area of the world that could have some pretty dangerous critters out in the wild, and not so wild.
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Post by Bullhunter on Feb 8, 2009 12:33:47 GMT 9
This goes way back to the year 1971. Norton AFB, CA Even as an A1C I was pretty brave and would sneek my pocket camera out on the flightline during my shift. In 24 years I never got caught. :lol . Anyway this is on one fine day when we changed a constant speed drive (CSD) and generator on the #3 engine of a C-141A aircraft. This photo is where I caught two F-106's taking off.
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Post by MOW on Feb 8, 2009 13:42:48 GMT 9
This goes way back to the year 1971. Norton AFB, CA Even as an A1C I was pretty brave and would sneek my pocket camera out on the flightline during my shift. In 24 years I never got caught. . Anyway this is on one fine day when we changed a constant speed drive (CSD) and generator on the #3 engine of a C-141A aircraft. This photo is where I caught two F-106's taking off. Hey! I was at Travis with the 602nd! I guess I should dust off my 141 pics. I also need to search for any C-141 websites out there and see if there is a need for one
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Post by Gene on Feb 8, 2009 14:41:52 GMT 9
www.c141heaven.com/blog2007.html thats the website i use.... the 141 was my long distance carrier back in the '70's...i was a phase 2 loadmaster on it from '84 thru 2002 gene also bull hunter... i used to hit norton once in a while from 75 thru 79... they had a combat control team stationed there. and the AAVS HQ was there....
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Post by Bullhunter on Feb 8, 2009 15:32:14 GMT 9
this one is at the Burbank Airport in CA. This C-141 was used for one of bob Hopes USO tours. Norton AFB always did those trips. :salute C-141 ISO Dock, Norton AFB, circa:1972 C-141 take-off into the smog. I was a Norton over 3 weeks before I knew we had mountians close at hand.
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Post by MOW on Feb 8, 2009 20:35:20 GMT 9
www.c141heaven.com/blog2007.html thats the website i use.... the 141 was my long distance carrier back in the '70's...i was a phase 2 loadmaster on it from '84 thru 2002 gene also bull hunter... i used to hit norton once in a while from 75 thru 79... they had a combat control team stationed there. and the AAVS HQ was there.... Excellent I left Travis, and the heavies, in 1978and went to KI Sawyer, which is when I started working the Six. I was a flying crew chief on the 141's (assistant) which was cool but I hated not having my name on the side of a plane. 141's were all civilians then, ARTS guys. So I laterialed over to fighters.
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Post by biendhoa on Feb 9, 2009 11:23:28 GMT 9
Was in the 603rd at Kedena from jan 69 thru mar 74. worked on every thing MAC sent thru the system at the time. C-141,C124,C-133.C-5,C-130 C-135 and a few helos. Out of all of them the C-141 was the best. :green-beer :
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Post by Bullhunter on Feb 19, 2009 6:22:47 GMT 9
Careful there "biendhoa" you might be dating yourself there. The only C-124's and C-133's I have seen are in air museums. I was at McChord AFB when the museums C-124 flew in. it was something to see and it left a long smoke trail from one of the engines as it blew what is called a jug. I have a photo somewhere of the C-124 flying fornation with a C-141 and a C-130 If I run accross it, I'll post it. :scratch_head
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Post by Bullhunter on Feb 19, 2009 6:35:06 GMT 9
I spent some time in the C-130 engine shop. I never liked working inshop. I was an outside person and enjoyed the flightline. The 36th Tactical Airlift Squadron operated out of McChord AFB in the early 1980's. I'm sure Gene recalls them. Anyway when they deactivated the squadron did a max effort. Every assigned aircraft flew! Below are some photos of that max effort. They taxi out. Engine run-up on the taxiway. They cometh! They roll pass! They fly! And they land. AKA: Have camera will travel :salute
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Feb 19, 2009 7:16:24 GMT 9
Wow! : I don't know what to make of you kids that never had the pleasure of being around 124's or 133's. I had the job of changing the lens on a wing tip light one day at Sioux City Air Base. Two guys held my legs while I hung over the tank on the end of the wing to unscrew the glass and install a new one. Long way off the ground for a fighter mechanic. They called the 124 Ole Shakey for good reasons. It's four R4360 engines really shook things up. The 124 was compared by some to the bumble bee, not aerodynamically capable of flying. They did, though, for a long time. Used to see 133's at Yuma. They would load an Army tank on a set of pallets, open both ends of the bird and pull the tank inside. Then they would go up over the Yuma test range and drop the tank to let the troops on the ground train on them. One day they dropped one and the chutes didn't all open. The treads and turret went in separate directions. Some mess. The 133 was built to transport ICBM's. :god_bless_usa
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Post by Bullhunter on Feb 19, 2009 7:28:04 GMT 9
Jim, Jim,,,,I'm a grandpa with four (4) grandchildren. No kid. : Neat story and comments you posted. If I'd been working with you on the C-124 I'd have a nice pic to post of you hanging like a bat. :green-smile
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Feb 19, 2009 8:35:52 GMT 9
Yeah, Yeah! Don't forget there are some on the forum older than me older than me. Aren't there OS? Tee Hee.
Bull, if you want to read a good book on jury selection, try "The Last Juror", by John Grisham. It may answer some of your questions about your time on jury duty. :god_bless_usa
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Post by Gene on Feb 19, 2009 10:03:20 GMT 9
I spent some time in the C-130 engine shop. I never liked working inshop. I was an outside person and enjoyed the flightline. The 36th Tactical Airlift Squadron operated out of McChord AFB in the early 1980's. I'm sure Gene recalls them. Anyway when they deactivated the squadron did a max effort. Every assigned aircraft flew! Below are some photos of that max effort. They taxi out. Engine run-up on the taxiway. They cometh! They roll pass! They fly! And they land. AKA: Have camera will travel i took the "they roll" shot from a cherrypicker on the grass side of "charlie ramp" before they got to the fuel cell (you had to be there close by)... that went mural size and was in the 36TAS orderly room... i remember when the 36th first got to mcchord. the second a/c blew a set of tires on landing and plowed into the grassy area between the taxiway and the active...welcome to mcchord...
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Post by biendhoa on Feb 20, 2009 7:23:38 GMT 9
bullhunter, I dont mind being dated. How bout this. worked on C-124s 1707th air transport wing West palm beach air force base Florida 1956 and 1957. :
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Post by Gene on Feb 20, 2009 9:09:22 GMT 9
we were stationed at west palm beach 55-57, dad was a 124 flight engineer... he showed me the catwalk out into the wing... he had to change something of one of the engines while in flight once... he was teaching engines and then transitioned for the flight pay... we lived off base at 555 cherry road...a b-25 crashed a couple of blocks over and took out 3 houses...thats where i took off the training wheels on my bike( i was born in '50)...had palm trees in the backyard...ate a lot of coconut...had an old box turtle for a pet... thanks for bringing back that memory gene
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