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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 4, 2007 1:27:38 GMT 9
Sorting through old photo's I discovered these. A few of us passed through these buildings in our careers. What are they and where are they. After we get some answers, I'll post some inside photos.
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Post by Jeff Shannon on Dec 4, 2007 5:50:12 GMT 9
Sorting through old photo's I discovered these. A few of us passed through these buildings in our careers. What are they and where are they. After we get some answers, I'll post some inside photos. Say those wouldn't happen to be the buildings from "Basic Training" would they?
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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on Dec 4, 2007 5:53:29 GMT 9
Same thing I was wondering. The dorms just didn't look like what I was in. For some reason I think the top one might be the "Green Monster" as we called it.
AJ
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 4, 2007 9:45:18 GMT 9
If you worked aircraft including fighters you might have passed through here. Clue: This base was deactivated.
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Post by Mark O on Dec 4, 2007 10:55:19 GMT 9
Chanute?
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 4, 2007 12:29:15 GMT 9
Yep, Chanute. It's the old Jet Engine Mechanic's School building and the Aircraft maintenence troop barracks. Jet Engine school along with many others were transfered to Sheppard AFB, TX. My daughter went to jet school in 1999 at Sheppard AFB. My Dad served there during WWII as a flight Instructor. My Dad had several assignments during WWII and was discharged after the war at Chanute. Following are picks from inside jet engine school These photo's were taken in Nov/Dec 1971 by me.
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 4, 2007 12:34:47 GMT 9
Chanute's flightline fall of 1971. F-102...........Like that paint job? C-133 and a KC-97 B-52,,,,,,,,,I always liked the clean look of the older B-52's.
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Post by Jeff Shannon on Dec 5, 2007 2:06:06 GMT 9
Yep been there! Egress school was there, I went during the winter time and still to this day can not understand why they would have to "march" us to class on snow and ice. They did do a modified march when it got up around our knees We were able to go to class on 4 Saturdays so we didn't have to come back from Christmas break to attend class for 4 days then leave again. Our dorms (barracks) were down by (if I remember correctly) what was called the "PIT and PING" bar/ lounge.
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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on Dec 5, 2007 5:04:42 GMT 9
Good Ole Chanute! I spent a good amount of time there in 325X1 school in '69. Luckily no real winter crap. The biggest chow hall in the USAF I beleive (P23?). I know the 'clippers' were huge... and hot! Did four days there waiting for classes to begin in April '69. Back then it was "Retirement Heaven". It seemed that every weekend or so someone opted for a full military retirement ceremony with a parade. As the DV's BS'd away on the stage troops hit the ramp left and right in the Summer. I mean literally passing out. Those were the days being a "straggle rope" meant nadda.
This is a bit OT, but I found it humorous. One time on a quick three day pass I flew home in uniform. I had my blues on with that damned green rope. My Dad being a WWII B-17/29 vet was proud to see my in full uniform for the first time. He had to make our first stop from the airport the local American Legion and VFW posts. At the Legion one old WWII vet admired my uniform and asked if I was a special force of some kind (Rope). Not sure what to say I said, "Sorta". They all cracked up when another guy (USAF active on Griffiss) piped up and said what it meant in Tech School.
I never did get any pictures at Chanute, wish I had. I spent too much time trying to hitch-hike or grab a train to Chicago or Champaign on weekends. I do wish I had gotten pictures of us fools on the roof of our dorm watching tornadoes in the fields across from the base. We got crap for that stunt big time, plus the pile of smuggled 3.2 mini-cans scattered on the roof. That reminds me of one guy, Tom Gruber. Typical NYC talking guy. Always had a racket worked out to try. He got us seriously busted for trying to sneak into the B-36 there with some beer one night. Who remembers the Rantoul USO club?
Bull more pics if you got them of CAFB. Old age has dulled my memories of the place and could use some prodding. I do vividly recall one troop in our dorm that had some really gross (for that time) nudie pic's on the inside of his locker door. They were cool until our new female second louey did a barracks inspection and saw them. Not good at all.
AJ
Jeff it was PINGER(er) bar in my time. good ole 3.2 beer. :puke:
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 5, 2007 9:06:25 GMT 9
I remember the USO in town and my days off doing alittle shopping. I bet when the base closed they rolled up the streets and never un-rolled them. Must of put most all them shops and stores out of business. I remember the ropes as I became one and made it to yellow rope. On the day we rode into Chanute on the bus there were lots of troops raking leaves and a few guys standing around watching them with ropes on. So I asked, "whats with the guys and the colored ropes?" Got the answer and I said that's for me. It was a good experance marching troop formations to and from class and doing supervision on the weekends and evenings. My daughter also became a yellow rope. She is soon to be a MSgt. Daughter home on leave for Christmas with her rope. 1999 Daughter at work in C-17 ISO Dock, Mcchord AFB, WA, about 2002 Left to right: eldest son, daughter, son-in-law. Daughter & son-in-law gave us a tour of a C-17. Son-in-law is active duty USAF, Enviremontal/ElectriciaL Technician, did extra duty as flying crew chief. Currently doing instructor duty. Both have served in the gulf. I have a few more Chanute photo's but just of the B-52. I'll post them if you like. Had a few more of Chanute and Rantol but don't know where they are now.
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Post by Jeff Shannon on Dec 5, 2007 10:10:42 GMT 9
I remember now the PIT & PING / PINGER was the airman's club. Anyone remember the "house" of records just outside the gate? It was an actual house they converted into a record store. Bought many a cassette there. Let's see the little bar I was thinking about was near our dorm which was one of the old ones. I was there in 77 and I think the dorms were torn down in the spring of 78, they were moving guys out before the Christmas break. It was near the drivers training Building too. Our dorm was just down the road from the BX and the clothing sales building where we all bought our Flight jackets with our career field patches on the back along with our home state patches, and the patches of the place we were going to. (I wonder what ever happened to that jacket ) 3.2 Beer if you were under what was it 18? you had to buy the 3.2 version of beer, we just drank more beer than the others because of it My first day there I woke up to see a German Shepard staring me in the face. Yep the Commander was was doing a "inspection" along with the cops and they brought the DOG. I was thinking first basic training and the TI meets you at 1am wearing sunglasses and now this!!!! Egress went to school with the AGE personnel, I too asked about the Rope but was told because our Tech school was to short for us to go for one, we were only there for 7 weeks Thanks Bullhunter seeing these picture sure brought back a lot of memories. Are your son-in-law and daughter still in? Tell them I said a Big Thank you for all they have done for the Good Ole USA
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 5, 2007 10:22:03 GMT 9
Both are still serving and supporting world wide C-17 missions insupport of Operation Enduring Freedom. Mom & Dad are proud and thank-you Jeff. B-52 front view on Chanute AFB Flightline. Is that blue car an old caddy? As you can tell some of my older photos are turning colors from age. BTW, Anyone know what year the Chanute Schools were closed and moved?
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Post by Jeff Shannon on Dec 5, 2007 10:30:48 GMT 9
When I checked it said the base was recommend for closure in 1988 and closed in 1993 The car looks like a old Lincoln to me.
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Post by Mark O on Dec 5, 2007 17:34:00 GMT 9
Very cool pictures! Thanks for sharing! BTW, I flew my first mission as a Flight Engineer tonight without an instructor!! Other than forgetting to tape up the bright lights when we went to NVGs (fixed) and a small mistake on the 781 (will fix later) I really felt pretty good. I admit I was a bit nervous but just like everything else I've done, the training kicked in. We had a small problem with our naviguesser fat fingering the SCNS and us 'no-dropping' both our cargo loads, but overall we did okay. Sometimes I even amaze myself! Mark
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Post by MOW on Dec 5, 2007 19:32:18 GMT 9
The Pit & Ping Airman's Club! Now THAT brings back some memories. As does the Holiday Inn Jr outside the gate, down the street between the two gates actually. Don't Shoot It, Chanute It! I met and married my first wife there, yea a tech school romance... WTF was I thinking? 3 kids and 9 years later I realized "not much" and we moved on to better things. That said, she ended up a Sixer as well, with the 5th FIS, the Det actually in Tucson. As a crew dog you all are wondering what the hell I was doing at Chanute right? No? Tough, I'll tell ya anyway. I came in as a crew chief on heavies, Jet Over Two. Tech school for Jet Over 2 was Chanute, and Jet Under 2 was Sheppard. I trained on the B-52s at Chanute, then went to... Grand Forks! You remember the Swap program? Some dumb bastard at Travis working C-141's swapped with me to Grand Forks so I ended up at Travis for a few years worked 141's and then C-5's (all A models haha) before getting the itch to have my name on the side of a plane. I lateraled to jet under 2, which is when I went to the Sixes. Actually my my wife (then) and I did it together and got assigned to the 87th together. The USAF had some military married to military thing then where they tried to keep you together. Damn that all seems like a long time ago, back when I was young and thin.
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Post by Jeff Shannon on Dec 6, 2007 1:45:29 GMT 9
The Pit & Ping Airman's Club! Now THAT brings back some memories. As does the Holiday Inn Jr outside the gate, down the street between the two gates actually. Don't Shoot It, Chanute It! I met and married my first wife there, yea a tech school romance... WTF was I thinking? 3 kids and 9 years later I realized "not much" and we moved on to better things. That said, she ended up a Sixer as well, with the 5th FIS, the Det actually in Tucson. As a crew dog you all are wondering what the hell I was doing at Chanute right? No? Tough, I'll tell ya anyway. I came in as a crew chief on heavies, Jet Over Two. Tech school for Jet Over 2 was Chanute, and Jet Under 2 was Sheppard. I trained on the B-52s at Chanute, then went to... Grand Forks! You remember the Swap program? Some dumb bastard at Travis working C-141's swapped with me to Grand Forks so I ended up at Travis for a few years worked 141's and then C-5's (all A models haha) before getting the itch to have my name on the side of a plane. I lateraled to jet under 2, which is when I went to the Sixes. Actually my my wife (then) and I did it together and got assigned to the 87th together. The USAF had some military married to military thing then where they tried to keep you together. Damn that all seems like a long time ago, back when I was young and thin. Thanks Pat I marched past the B-58 everyday on the way to tech school. And it looked just like your picture, COLD my feet get cold just thinking back on the memories Very fond memories at that!!
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 6, 2007 4:55:03 GMT 9
Great pic's of those aircraft in snow. I was always impressed by that B-36. That's about the photo's I'd been searching for, but without the snow. Still have 2 or 3 photo's on main street Rantol someplace or they are lost and gone. Anyway was not main street the only street in Rantol? ;D We picked up leaves at Chanute. Did not shovel any snow that I can remember. I left Chanute in Dec 1971 and I can't remember it snowing once. At 54 the memories are not always complete. :rolleyes: Anyways, I bused to chicago and was put on a jet to LA, CA for an assignment at Norton AFB in San Bernardino. Landed and got my bags and headed for ground transportation. All of a sudden someone yelled, "Stop Airman" . Dam, did I get worried as I was in blues then, and we were worned about Vietnam war protestors giving troops bad times. I figuire time to run but a guy in a suit came up to me and said I needed to sign this paper. I said I'm not signing anything. The guy said you don't understand, you just walked acrossed a movie set during filming. If this is the best shot of that section of the movie we will want to use it and you would be in it and receive a few bucks. I wasn't sure weather to sign or not so I read it and all it was - was a release for then to have me as a standin person in the movie. I gave my name and contacts at Norton AFB and signed the paper. Never got a penny so I guess I didn't make the movie. My welcome to LA and Hollywood.
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Post by sixerviper on Dec 16, 2007 2:23:55 GMT 9
I was at Chanute from March until October of '69. I was in the old barracks at the 3350th, just down the road from the airman's club, which at that time was called the Chevron, I think. I was in the (then) new 325X1 Avionics Instruments school, and I think we were the fourth or fifth class to graduate. I don't remember that engine school building; could it have been built after I left? I do remember those fancy new barracks and was a tad plucked that I didn't get to live in 'em. I also remember AJ's female lieutenant squadron XO--she was rather cute (and about 62-63 years old now...). I remember flying into Chanute from Lackland on a Modern Air Convair CV-990A Coronado airliner--the only time I ever flew on one. They made very few of them and they didn't sell well.
I had straggler privileges and used them. Got out of inspections, too. Rated a green rope, wore it a while, decided I didn't like the hassle, so quit wearing it. Bought a cheap guitar at the BX and tried to play it (don't EVER buy a cheap guitar!) but it wouldn't stay in tune. Bought my girlfriend a diamond ring at one of those stores in downtown Rantoul. Bought a heavy blue jacket and put MAC and C-5 patches all over it because I just KNEW that I was going to a C-5 unit, and ended up at Duluth and was a Sixer my whole USAF active-duty career. I think I tossed that jacket in 1973 when I got out.
Remember the B-52 with the vertical tail removed so it could fit in a hangar? Remember the rumor that the B-36 at the corner was shorter than originally built?
Ahhh--those were the days
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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on Dec 16, 2007 5:45:44 GMT 9
Six, we went thru this once before. I was there the same time, 2nd class I think 325X1. (What Flight Number were you at Lackand? I was 310). I had the same thought about graduation, C-5 assignment due to the inordinate time they spent on the MADAR system. That turned out to be a real laugh I hear. I was glad I got Sixes.
The problem (not a big one) was myself and one other guy, Herbie Knowles (who later was the Thunderbirds Insturment Weenie in the mid 70's), were the only 325X1's in a shop full of 422s, two stripers and real JEEPS. Hehehe, the 158 stand scared the hell out of a few of the old 422s, along with O-scopes and, believe it or not, the AN-PSM6. But on PME talents with basic test equipment they were damned good.
Again off topic, but our Yellow/Red Rope, Bobbie Raymond, who I also did basic with, ended up a 32571 on the E4 A's and B's (NEACP) on Andrews at the time I was 89th in the mid 70's.
Hehehe, anyone do any "Tornado Watching" looking in the big fields across the road from Chanute? I recall seeing one small one.
AJ (Oh, the B-36 was shortened I have heard on good reliability.)
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Post by MOW on Dec 16, 2007 20:34:06 GMT 9
Remember the B-52 with the vertical tail removed so it could fit in a hangar? The verts o the BUFFs, the tall tail A-D models (I worked D models), could fold over for that very reason. It wasn't common practice, wasn't easy or quick, and didn't happen too often, but the BUFF at Chanute I trained on as a crew dog had its tail folded over. Damn that seems like a long time ago, although it seems like just yesterday. Hell for that matter it seems like just yesterday it was Christmas, but here we are again. Has it been a year already?
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