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Post by Jim on Dec 16, 2007 23:54:42 GMT 9
Top o' the morning to ye......You OLD 27thFIS guys should remember when the SAC weenies forgot to fold the tail and it hit the power rail for opening and closing the hangar doors and blew the power for the whole ADC end of the base.......I too had some time at Chanute, Aug of 57 was there for the A/C weight and balance / loadmasters school.......School was in the Pentagon, outer circle........That was where I saw a F-104 take off- on a quiet Sunday AM I had driven down to the flight line to drink a cup of coffee....Watched the pilot do his walk around , etc and taxi out to the end of the runway, light burner and roll about 1000' bangin burner as he went,did what had to have been a 5 G pullup and bang burner one more time and within seconds disappear from sight- vertically..................It had the big ADC decal on the tail- any idea what sqdn had 104s?  ? The Old Sarge..........OBTW, Mark, I used the load slipstick for the B-50 and the KC97 to calculate CG....Back to doing all the form A's on the Dueces with a tape measure and an adding machine....... |
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Post by Mark O on Dec 17, 2007 1:51:28 GMT 9
It had the big ADC decal on the tail- any idea what sqdn had 104s? ? The Old Sarge..........OBTW, Mark, I used the load slipstick for the B-50 and the KC97 to calculate CG....Back to doing all the form A's on the Dueces with a tape measure and an adding machine....... Off the top of my head I know the 83rd FIS at Hamilton and 319th FIS at Homestead flew F-104As in the ADC colors......Wait a sec..... Okay here's the list I have... 56, 83, 319, 331, 337, 538, 151, 157, and 197. The last three were Guard units. That's from a massive decal sheet coving all the F-104 units including ADC, TAC, test, and NASA. If I remember the Guard didn't start flying F-104s until around 59-60 or so when the active bubbas decided Dueces and Sixes were the way to go. Even the Guard flying them didn't last to long. They were point defense interceptors and didn't have the legs for much more. Dang, I wish we had high speed stuff like that today! I have to use a 3 inch book of charts to calculate take off and landing data! I'll leave the CG to the loadmaster! Mark |
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Post by Terry L Horstead on Feb 29, 2008 15:56:50 GMT 9
(Oh, the B-36 was shortened I have heard on good reliability.)
I can confirm the 20 ft section was and still is removed from the Aircraft. We disassembled it an Chanute and relocated it to the via the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad to Castle Air Museum at Castle AFB, California. I spend time as the Asst to the Curator when I am not Hanging out in the old 456th FIS Hangar all night, Where I work as a Night System Manager / Maintenance Controller for Sky King Airlines.
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Post by pat perry on Mar 1, 2008 4:26:17 GMT 9
(Oh, the B-36 was shortened I have heard on good reliability.) I can confirm the 20 ft section was and still is removed from the Aircraft. We disassembled it an Chanute and relocated it to the via the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad to Castle Air Museum at Castle AFB, California. I spend time as the Asst to the Curator when I am not Hanging out in the old 456th FIS Hangar all night, Where I work as a Night System Manager / Maintenance Controller for Sky King Airlines. Hi Terry, Thanks for your post! Come back and join up with us on the Forum. You must work with CAM Curator Larry Birks - he's a good man. Larry arranged for a Tuskeegee Airman pilot to speak at our last 456th Reunion at Merced in 2006. Did they remove the section of the B-36 from the rear fuselage or half front, half rear? The bomb bay section looks big enough to lift a semi trailer into! I guess that was where the Recon equipment was located? Was the section removed because it was converted to a Recon aircraft? RB-36H at CAM click to enlarge  What type of air services does Sky King Airlines do? I visit the old squadron area every time I visit Castle. I'll have to look you up next time. Take care, Pat Perry 456th FIS |
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Post by sixerviper on Mar 10, 2008 7:49:37 GMT 9
AJ-- The names Herbie Knowles and Bobbie Raymond ring faint bells for me. They weren't in my class at Chanute, but the names sound sorta familiar. I was in the 3701st squadron flight 243 in basic training. Joined the USAF on Feb 12, 1969. I'd be over 39 now if retirement hadn't jumped up and bit me...
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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on Mar 10, 2008 9:11:03 GMT 9
Sixviper, I think I was in the 3350th flight 310. I am certain on flight 310. Official enlistment 26 FEB 69. Bobby was in my flight, Herbie just behind, He and I met in casual at Lackland and Bobby and I got back at Andrews in 73. Both were in my class at Chanute. I did some digging and found out I was in the second graduating 325X1 at Chanute.
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Post by az09 on May 1, 2008 0:08:23 GMT 9
The picture of the Jet Engine school, odd angle, the back of the building as seen from the "main" drag.
What was the name of the building? "Jackson" Hall.
The first female Jet Troop? Betsy Ross, small town in In. Yes that was her name, I kid you NOT! Her first assignment was Randolph AFB, Tx.
I spent one hellish long winter there - Dec 1965 to Apr 1966 going to school during the Veit Nam build up. Started out in the 3355th Student Sq, then because of the massive shift of troops, we went over across the flightline and set up the 3368th Student Sq. No more WW2 barracks, now we had 3 men to a room in the Korean era dorms.
The best racket wasn't the "Ropes", it was the Orderly Room runners. No marching formations = "straggler's Passes, No room inspections, no fire guard duty, and unlimited access to our own mess hall , in the commander's and 1st Shirt's names of course.
All of us were basic training buddies from the same 2 sister flights, and who should process in one cold day, but our PT instructor from basic, Airman Dow. Gary Pegram from NC decided to get some payback on Dow. The 1st shirt's pet peeve was out of date locator cards , so he would go thru sections of cards each week and make up his detail lists from poor unsuspecting troops. You would not beleive how much "extra" duty Amn Dow pulled in that first month thanks to Gary Pegram.
Came back to Chanute as an instructor - May 1971 to May 1975, earned my "Master" Instructor badge there in minmum time. I taught Block One, Fundementals.
Civilian instructors were Jim Farrell, John Murray, Ralph Plowman, Vern Nelson, Dave Bletscher, and Lee Vedder the Block "Boss".
GI instructors were Sgt Mike Horner, Ssgt Terry Baum, Ssgt Gary Phillips, Ssgt Grover Mullins, Ssgt Phil Walker, Ssgt Doug LeValley, Ssgt Richard Murphy, Tsgt Ken Easter, Msgt Ralph Gardener and Msgt Al Karsky.
While I had to leave Hamilton for Chanute and I missed the Dart mightily, this assignment was the best thing I did for my personal career. I made Tsgt coming out of there due to teaching the same material that I was WAPS tested on.
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Post by ikar on Aug 10, 2008 12:02:44 GMT 9
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Post by Bullhunter on Aug 10, 2008 14:10:19 GMT 9
Nice Buff photos. Where were they taken?
I worked Buffs at Griffiss AFB in the mid 1970's and all were painted camo.
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Post by Jeff Shannon on Aug 11, 2008 5:09:12 GMT 9
I remember seeing BUFF's like those when I was a kid, (AF BRAT) when I was at the Griff the closes I came to them was when I went over the raid the 416th's bench stock  Except one day when the SAC guys called and asked if I could help them pull a couple of seats in a phase bird. Now it was fun to be up in the cockpit of a BUFF and do some work on one, but give me a fighter any day! I kind of like the open space of their cockpits. I never thought I was claustrophobic until I was up in the BUFF. Funny thing was I use to get up into the avionics bay of the "B" model to change out the canopy actuator with out any problems now that was a little cramped. |
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Post by Ron Dot'o on Mar 24, 2009 8:30:27 GMT 9
I did two 2 week summer encampments @ Chanute as a Michigan Wing CAP cadet during the summers of '57 and '58. Joined the AF @ 17 and did tech school @ Keesler for avionics in'60.
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Post by gpolaski1 on Mar 10, 2011 5:26:20 GMT 9
I suppose I should put this in writing before my memory gives way...as if it already hasn't.
I went through the Jet engine Mechanic School at Chanute AFB from 12/70 to 2/71. Jackson Hall. I'm from the south and the winter was brutal. After doing 1.5 years at Kadena and Kunsan (F-4s as a Jet Troop) and 3.5 years at Laughlin (T-37s and T-38s), I returned to Chanute AFB to become an Instructor in Block 4 (Engine Change & QEC Buildup) at Jackson Hall for 5.5 years, leaving in July 1981 to go to Tyndall AFB to work on F-106 engines (J-75s). My last year at Chanute AFB was spent developing an F-4/J-79 two week follow-on course with a team of very talented individuals. I left Chanute AFB with a Master Instructor Certificate, something that would benefit me career wise down the road.
I separated from the Active Duty AF at Tyndall and went into the world of commercial aviation; the jet engine overhaul business in the Miami, Florida area.
Missing the AF, I joined AFRES in 1987; the 315th Airlift Wing a Charleston AFB, SC and spent 14 years working on C-141s and my last 10 years working on C-17s. I got activated for two years (2004-2006) and retired in 2008. All that time I still lived in south Florida. AFRES sent a "shuttle" around twice a month (C-141 or C-17) to pick up reservists and take them to CAFB. I did a lot of trips overseas for the 315th. The 315th is an associate unit and shares everything with the active duty unit, the 437th Airlift Wing. My son is an E-6 with the 437th (an ELEN specialist). We were not the only father-son team on CAFB. There were several. While I was activated, we would sometimes find ourselves working on the same aircraft (we worked out of the same AMU for 6 years). When I became run qualified on the C-17, he stood ground for me on my certification run.
I am now the Training Manager for the company I work for and we just went into a new product line; CFM56-3 engines (I have 27 years on JT8Ds). I've continued my teaching throughout my career in the Miami area no matter what position I held in the company I worked for. I had to develop and conduct all the training on the new product, which we did off site at a Courtyard Marriott; 5 courses. What I learned to do at Chanute AFB still benefits me to this day (only...I could have used a Power Point program while developing courses at Chanute).
Back to Chanute AFB. I've studied everything about it on Google Earth and the net, and it is a tragedy to see what is happening to that base...even though I didn't care much for the winters there (and went through the 3 worst winters in American history there - 76/77, 77/78, 78/79...the very reason why I live in the Fort Lauderdale area today). White Hall is a disaster area. I am very curious about Jackson Hall and what is happening there. On one satellite image I can see truck trailers parked outside the building on the south side. I would appreciate any info anyone has on the former Jet Engine Mechanic School.
I like the photos people have posted here. Post some more.
PS: My boss here is also ex-AFRES and an F-106 vet.
-GP
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Post by Jim on Mar 10, 2011 6:09:23 GMT 9
WELCOME GP, ONTO OUR FLIGHTLINE AND INTO OUR HANGAR....
What was the pentagon shaped building at Chanute called? I took weight and balance tech/loadmaster school there in July of '57........ The Old Sarge
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Post by jimpadgett on Mar 10, 2011 12:15:38 GMT 9
I spent 6 months ( Jul 61-Jan62) at Chanute in AGE school. We made several long 3 day weekend trips from there on our thumbs and were lucky enough to make it back every time. I was a green rope and was able to BS friends out of details to accompany me on excursions to Cleveland (twice) and Louisville (once). The base took us to a Bear's preseason game in Chicago. Backed a train right onto the base and loaded us up. To "pay" for that we had to march around Soldier Field in mass formation. UGH! Used to enjoy weekends in Kankakee (sp). Looked great in dacrons. Let us in the movie theater for free. Have been back to the base recently (2006?) JB Hunt was using the place for a semi driver training school. Small museum there. One lady volunteer there said she had probably done my first duty assignment orders for Okinawa. Drop in if you happen to be in the area (middle of nowhere). The museum was havimg a struggle staying open. Put a $20 or whatever on them
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Post by lindel on Mar 11, 2011 20:58:40 GMT 9
Welcome one and all!
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