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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 11, 2016 17:24:59 GMT 9
My first year away from home @ Christmas Time was at Norton AFB, CA. I arrived there Dec 2, 1971 and on Christmas I worked the aircraft on the flightline. Had no place else to go and wasn't making big money either. Did the same Christmas 1972. I aquired 30 days Leave (Vacation days) a year starting in July 1971. Then in the fall of 1973 the Squadron Commander sent for me, all I could do is think, "Crap what trouble am I in", when I asked the Shop Chief what the Commander wanted of me he, he just shook his head. I reported to my Commander and I don't recall the whole discussion but remember him asking, "Why do you have over 60 days leaving aquired, why have you not taken any time off?" I replied, "I enjoy my job, working out on the flightline, and I'm learning a lot." He was happy to hear that but quickly said, "Any leave days over 60 you will loose soon if not taken, that will not happen in my squadron, Airman Price you will take at least a 30 day leave, and that is an order, understand?" My quick reply was, "Yes Sir!" He then congradulated me on my hard work and outstanding performance reports. I quickly scheduled a 35 day leave and went home to PA and spent Thanksgiving with my Grandma Sarah & spent deer season hunting with My Dad, Uncle Ralph, and Cousins Marvin & Robert. Had a great time, but by Christmas I was back on the Norton AFB Flightline. Wow, that was 43 years ago.
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 12, 2016 1:34:58 GMT 9
Come on people. There has to be some Holiday stories out there with Christmas & New Years just about here. Or a Thanksgiving stories as it just passed us. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by LBer1568 on Dec 12, 2016 2:43:52 GMT 9
Come on people. There has to be some Holiday stories out there with Christmas & New Years just about here. Or a Thanksgiving stories as it just passed us. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
While stationed at RAF Upper Heyford (1973-1978) we made friends with several English families. We always had a family join us for traditional Thanksgiving dinner, you know Turkey, ham and all the trimmings. Almost to the family they could not believe the size of the turkeys. We always tried to get 22 pound or bigger. And they had never seen "stuffing" they did their hens but always made dressing. Stuffing goes inside fowl, dressing is side dish of same thing. They were also awed by cranberry sauce. Myself and a couple shop buddies played darts with a local Pub Team. The Brits always do something at Christmas for the elderly. We did Turkey dinner for 25 old timers for 3 straight Christmas and brought some good wine from Class 6 to get them feeling good. We also did a pick up and delivery service with our big American Limo's (Tanks) So we tried to help the image of the Yanks. As the old quote about Yanks goes, "Over paid, oversexed and over here". We also introduced Brits from our pub to American BBQ. We brought everything and cooked for the locals. They were not familiar with pork ribs which we got from local butchers. They used them as low priced dog food. Well after a couple years of hosting the Pub BBQ the local butchers started selling the ribs at higher price and no longer as dog food. Lorin
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Post by Gene on Dec 12, 2016 2:48:58 GMT 9
great relations start somewhere!!
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Post by Jim on Dec 12, 2016 8:33:59 GMT 9
great relations start somewhere!! Yes Gene, they do and they some times produce even greater results..... Time frame, Loring, Christmas Eve Day 1962 about 1300 hrs, light snow and 12 below......Almost everybody but minimum in job control and the alert crew had gone home..... I was closing down the Periodic Inspection Docks/Hanger, (I was PE Insp Branch NCOIC an almost brand new TSgt) was making sure all canopies were closed, just in case something in the SAC nosedocks caused a water pressure drop which would set off our fire fighting fog system. For some reason, I decided to check out something on one of the birds in the ready hangars when a couple of A/2c were complaining about what was going on in the alert crew. Long story shortened....... Seems that the flight chiefs decided the RHIP really existed and the A/1c and SSgt that normally would comprise the alert crew should have the holidays off.. When I finally got into the alert crew room (No Loan Zone problem) I found out that the TSgt that would normally be the NCOIC had appointed a SSgt that had just got his 7 level and just got married to be the NCOIC for the holidays. And, of the 8 other airmen there, 5 were young, married and living off base in Limestone (A/1c and A/2c couldn't afford to live in Caribou)..... So, with a bit of persuasion, I got a couple of my Post Dock crew men (single and lived in the barracks) and some other flight line qualified guys to stand alert for the holidays to relieve these young guys so they could spend at least Christmas Eve and most of Christmas Day with their families. One young airman said that his ride had already left and he didn't have a way home. Tossed him my keys and told him to be careful and would see him tomorrow at 1600 hrs..... All the alert pilots were single and had no choice about being stuck on the holidays. When the cook said time for dinner, the pilots came downstairs and had dinner with us, and yes, those of us on separate rations paid for our meals..... About 2000 hrs we got paid a visit by the CO, who was unaware of what had been done...... Next commander's call all of the NCOs in the 27th FIS, excluding my Post Dock Chief TSgt, his SSgt assistant and myself, got a severe reprimand as to the duties and responsibilities of an NCO from the the oldest CMSgt to the newest SSgt. Lost something from some of the flightline NCOs, but gained a hell of a lot more from some young airmen. A couple of whom I would run into in different places in the world 10 years or so later and they were MSgt, with one looking at SMSgt!!!!!!!!!!They remembered me before I remembered them..... So, Santa remembered me, by giving me the opportunity to influence a couple of young airmen and years later see the results. One retired with 30 years as a CMSgt and the other with 24 as a SMSgt....... most of us never get to see if we left our mark, I did..The Old Sarge BTW we kept in touch until they both passed away 15-18 years ago. One from Agent Orange induced cancer.
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Post by Gene on Dec 12, 2016 13:20:55 GMT 9
thats a great story... it is nice to be remembered... until a few years back i got a call or a card from a few of those young air-people that crossed my path way back when... always made me feel good.
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 12, 2016 13:45:50 GMT 9
This was winter time and could have been near the holidays. Just don't recall when it was.
Pre-Alert Operational checks and Engine Fire After phase inspections and also before an aircraft went on EWO Alert, we were tasked to perform alert engine gang starts. This brings back some exciting memories of B-52 Bomber engine run-ups in SAC. I’d watched many from the co-pilots seat and trained in the flight simulator for these.
During alert starts usually engines #4 and #6 were started with explosive carts. We maintenance technicians were not qualified to use explosive carts so we would start # 4 & #6 engines with compressor air units and run those two engines up to full power to fill the bleed air ducts with starting air pressure.
We then pushed the other remaining 6 starter buttons and watched the engine instruments all start to perk up. Watching all those engines and advancing the throttles at the exact RPM's to give fuel was a hair-raising experience. You had to watch for proper RPM's, oil pressures, fuel flows, ignition, and exhaust gas temperatures. Also if the starter button did not pop back out at an exact RPM percentage you had to be watching to pull it out yourself. If there was a big enough leak of hot bleed air that blew onto a fire-detector you could get an engine overheat or fire warning light. You never knew if it was a real fire or just a hot air leak from a defective duct seal. The fire lights and warning sound surely gets your heart racing.
This was done to ensure there were no air leaks in the bleed air duct system and connections that would prevent losses of air pressure thus preventing fast engine alert starts.
I loved doing these alert starts. It was the highlight of my day when I got to do one.
One evening late into my shift about 10:30PM we were tasked to perform such pre-alert engine run-up checks. There was a B-52 Bomber that was going to fly airborne alert and we were to run the engines before the flight crew arrived for takeoff. I did my walk around inspection and noticed there were two racks of nuclear SRAM Missiles (Short Range Attack Missile) loaded in the bomb bay. These were to be used against Soviet Radar sights incase of war, thus increasing the success of our bomber force.
The mission pilot came out to the bomber and told me that we had to expedite the engine run-up as he had to be airborne and wheels up by 0100 hours (1:00AM). If not a Tanker would need be scramble to refuel the B-52 now on airborne alert.
I enjoyed running engines but was always worried about weapons onboard incase of fire. I also did not like to be pressured during engine runs. This night it was snowing pretty steady and it was cold outside. I completed my walk around, pre-run up checks, and then climbed up into the flight deck and took my position in the pilot’s seat. It was pretty cold inside the aircraft, but we soon would have heat.
My ground observer plugged into the intercom and another technician climbed into the co-pilots seat to ride brakes. We all checked in with each other and the B-52 was on battery power. I instructed the ground observer to supply the bomber with external power and when the bomber received the extra power, all the lights and instruments jumped to life. We continued on with our checklists and then I instructed the ground observer to supply compressed starting air from the external air cart. The aircraft air duct manifolds filled with air pressure and I selected the starter button for our number 4 engine on the left wing. The number four engine started normally and all the engine’s gages were in the green. I then started number six engine on the opposite wing and it was normal. With two engines running, we switched to aircraft electrical power supplied by the electrical generators mounted on the engines. I had the external power unit and air cart disconnected and removed. I then started the other six engines and they all started and operated normally.
With everything disconnected and the aircraft under its own electrical power we turned on the heater and warmed ourselves up. The aircraft ground observer was left out in the cold.
With all systems in the green I decided only to run-up half of the engines at one time to military power due to the snow. I advanced number 1 and 2, along with 7 and 8 on the opposite wing to provide even wing thrusting. At 50% power they ran normal. I then advanced them to full power and all was normal. I then retarded the engines to idle.
It was now time to check out engines 3 and 4 along with 5 and 6. I took those engines up to 50% power and observed the gauges. All looked normal so I advised the ground observer that we were now going to military power on those engines. The engines stabilized at full power and all looked normal. It wasn’t even midnight yet and we were just about done with this job. My eyes were inside the cockpit scanning the engine gages when everything changed for the worst.
All of a sudden I heard the words I feared most while running jet engines. The ground observer started yelling, “ENGINE FIRE, ENGINE FIRE, YOUR ON FIRE!” The technician setting in the co-pilots seat next to me said, “LOOK!” As I was reaching for the engine throttles I looked up and all the snow on the ground was orange along with the snow flakes. I asked the ground observer, “Which engine?” and he quickly replied, “Number Five, Number 5 !”
I quickly chopped back number five engine throttle to cutoff and pulled the emergency T-handle, while I was shutting down the remaining engines, I radioed the tower that we had an engine fire and that we had nukes onboard. I was surprised that I had remained so calm when everything had turned orange outside and my ground observer had been yelling, “FIRE, FIRE!” It was all black outside now except for the security flood lights. So the fire was now out.
I exited the bomber and asked the ground observer, “Exactly what did you observe?” He said, “The engine was shooting orange sparks out the exhaust.” I expected maybe ice formed in the intake and then chipped off into the engine, but we were operating the engines with the anti-ice system turned on.
The tips of the engine compressor blades were chipped and ruffed up so the engine had to be replaced. A tanker would have to be dispatched to refuel that B-52 Bomber on airborne alert. Their mission would be extended. Weapons technicians would be called to download the weapons and then the aircraft put in a hanger for the up coming engine change.
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Post by Jim on Dec 13, 2016 1:04:20 GMT 9
This was winter time and could have been near the holidays. Just don't recall when it was.
Pre-Alert Operational checks and Engine Fire After phase inspections and also before an aircraft went on EWO Alert, we were tasked to perform alert engine gang starts. This brings back some exciting memories of B-52 Bomber engine run-ups in SAC. I’d watched many from the co-pilots seat and trained in the flight simulator for these.
The tips of the engine compressor blades were chipped and ruffed up so the engine had to be replaced. A tanker would have to be dispatched to refuel that B-52 Bomber on airborne alert. Their mission would be extended. Weapons technicians would be called to download the weapons and then the aircraft put in a hanger for the up coming engine change.
This is what has always been called a brown shorts moment. A moment that causes rapid heart palpitations, sweaty palms and things you don't notice until it is all over........ Winter and jet engines don't always love each other, either......Place: Griffiss AFB, NY; Time: Sometime in Dec 1957, 2100 hours Post Dock/FCF Crew Swing Shift. Finishing up a periodic inspection on one of the last F-94Cs before transferring them to the Air National Guard. Weather: snow flakes the size of quarters, 15 mph wind making chill factor 45 below zero..... Note: Griffiss was JUST BARELY below the line that determined whether we were issued parkas and bunny pants, so long johns, a field jacket with liner is what was authorized. We were issued the big mittens that went with the parka though.... All the leak checks and other power on checks at idle, 50% and 100% were uneventfully accomplished. Now, you guys that are familiar with the F-80 (anybody?) or the T-33 will remember the access panels on the aft section that were about shoulder height. They were probably about 12" x 18" in size... I indicated that I was going to go to min. mil power and back out, so I closed the canopy until it was about six inches from full closed so that I could use the rear view mirror to see what was going on behind me... The trim pad that we were using was not to be used for sustained burner operation because the blast deflector was made out of wood covered with corrugated metal roofing, as was our other blast deflector on the main trim pad, which enters into another story for later..... Snow removal had taken the snow and piled it up on both sides of the area, so we were in a snow revetment. Important knowledge for the rest of the story...... I saw the fire guards roll those great big 2 wheeled fire extinguisher back by the fins on the tip tanks on each side, both gave me the wind up signal. So forward went the throttle, I signaled I was going into min. burner, they signaled OK. This initial burner lightoff was immediately in and back out and back to idle........... Which I did..... The snow banks turned orange, the overheat and fire warning lights momentarily illuminated and instantly went out. Both fireguards were seen going over the top of the snowbanks as I chopped the throttle to off, shut off the fuel pumps and got the canopy open, got out and got back to the access hole in the aft section.... NO FIRE!! Sure smelled hot!!! When I shined a flashlight in there, I about turned my shorts brown!!!!!!! There was about a 4" gap between the exhaust nozzle and the front flange on the tailpipe, which contains the burner flame holder!!!!!!!!! What was the shorts color changer was on the other side of the a/c was the burner fuel supply line...... It was charred!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....... No, the tailpipe was not bolted to the the exhaust nozzle, it is connected by four cast iron flip locks that are suppose to be bolted in place. Now, the red X was signed off by an engine inspector, QC had done their final inspection and I SUPPOSEDLY checked these four clamps before starting my run......Obviously I missed it as well... I found out what those 2 cables attached to the tailpipe were for- I think.... So back to the hangar we went, pulled the aft section and found that only one of the clamps had been properly connected!! And it was broken.....The overheat system along with entire fire warning system in the aft section had to be replaced, along with the burner fuel line. When it came time for the next trim run, I think half of the PE crews inspected those four clamps.... Everybody involved got verbal reprimands, the 2 fireguards weren't so lucky...........These two fire guards also figure in the story I referred to earlier......
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Post by Gene on Dec 13, 2016 2:48:59 GMT 9
really good storys...
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 13, 2016 7:46:46 GMT 9
I just remembered a funny one:
It was in the early 1980's, likely winter of 84/85. We had gotten a few snow storms and the dude that drove the big snow blower always blew snow onto the C-130 engine test-cell area after the test-cell crew shoveled it clean. The next time it snowed and the crew shoved it the snow-blower came around on the taxiway blowing snow, the NCOIC of the test-cell threw a quart of hydrolic fluid out into the snow and as the snow-blower came around and made contact with the can it made a noise and the snow blowing out of the snow blower turned red. The snow-blower operator shut down the blower and climbed out of the cab and turned whiter that the pure snow. Now the NCOIC had a face to face with the snow-blower operator (a civilian) and explained that he did not kill anyone and he had better stop blowing snow onto the C-130 engine test cell area in the future. I was not witness to this, but hear about it first hand.
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Post by Gene on Dec 14, 2016 7:08:24 GMT 9
one way to do business!
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Post by ma1marv on Dec 15, 2016 11:03:07 GMT 9
Here is a TRUE story from my days at Duluth AFB!!! It is not a great holiday story but -enjoy it! Back in December 1968 or maybe January 1969 I was a young A1c -3 level and my permanent trainer was a Sgt Bill Eldridge. On this particular week I was working with SSgt Bill Crowell because Sgt Eldridge was on leave. SSgt Crowell and I had worked together on various acft on Monday and Tuesday nights, then on Wednesday we were the last ones to finish for the evening because the others had been sent home early. It was starting to snow pretty heavy and the winds had picked up while the temp took a dive into the sub zero area. I was a barracks rat and it did not mean much to me -I had FTD classes in the afternoon and then worked the swing shift with a trainer. When we left for home - Bill took me back to the barracks, then he went home - he lived on one of those wonderful hillside housing areas in Duluth. Here is where it gets interesting -so follow along! Duluth has a very good snow removal operation and a great plan to go with it. They have what is called "Odd and Even" parking on the streets for snow removal. That Wednesday when Bill left to go home was an odd day -so Bill parked on the opposite side of the street from his house. Not a bad thing -MOST of the time! But this evening was deemed a snow emergency by the city so Odd/Even was in force. Bill took the time to pull out his trusty LONG extension cord and plugged in his car so that it might start easier the next day. That cord was long enough to reach from his porch -across the street to his car! Along about 3:00 AM a snowplow came by and tangled with his cord! Evidently there were sparks that really alarmed the snow plow operator. The plow operator found the electrical cord and followed it right up to Bills porch where it was still plugged in. After beating on the door and making lots of noise -Bill finally came to the door to see what the ruckus was all about. There he was met by a very irate snowplow driver who proceeded to give Bill a good piece of his mind -then followed through with a solid punch of his fist into Bills left eye! When Bill came back to work on Friday his eye was not swollen as much and he could see albeit a bit blurry! Bill swore to NEVER park on that side of the street again and in fact -MOVED to a new place the next month that had its own private driveway!
Hope you all enjoyed that -ITs the TRUTH!!!
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 15, 2016 14:16:39 GMT 9
It came upon one Christmas Holiday Break while at Griffiss AFB, NY. Half of us took off Christmas week and the other took off New Years week. That year I chose Christmas so I could spend it with my Grandma and Dad on the family farm. It was 2300hrs and my shift was over and my week off started. My trips home to the farm always was south on route 12 and then break off to Hancock, NY, then down the Delaware River Valley to the Farm. A trip of about 135 miles and took about 2 hours. It had been snowing my whole shift and it was about 6 inches when I left the shop wondering if I'd be able to drive up SAC Hill. Well, turned out the snow was that light dry snow and it just flew out away from the car tires. Was no trouble driving up out of the SAC area and to the Barracks. I changed and got ready to head to the Farm in NE PA. Something told me that with the snow storm it was risky. But then the idea came to me. Don't drive route 12 on country roads, take the throughway from the base to Syracuse then south on Interstate 81 to Binghamton, NY. From there Interstate 17 to Hancock, NY. All these would have snow plows working them. After Handcock I'd be on NY state route 97 for about 25-30 miles then I would cross over the river into PA and 2 1/2 miles up into the hills I'd be home for Christmas. I was young, fearless, and took a risky trip. The interstates as I suspected were plowed and I often followed snowplows. After I left the interstate at Handcock I found route 97 not plowed in a very long time and it must have had 8 or 9 inches of snow on the roadway. But it still was the soft, dry, power type snow which allowed me to keep going. I dared not stop fearing I'd be stuck. I crossed the Delaware River Bridge and came to the hill which was a good two miles and at the bottom was a sharp turn so it would not allow for one to pick up speed. I kept up a reasonable speed as not to loose traction and spin out. I made it up the hill and home. It was about 0400hrs and I could not believe the drive took me 5 hours. But I was safe, sound, and warm now. Quickly I was upstairs and into a warm bed. Looking back on that night and that snowy trip, it was a very stupid and risky thing to try. It could well have waited till morning and after breakfest. I was driving a Dodge Charger and not a 4 wheel drive vehicle.
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Post by LBer1568 on Dec 15, 2016 23:57:12 GMT 9
Christmas 1968 had be back from Osan Korea and back at my home station, Tyndall AFB FL. So I took Christmas break and packed wife and two young sons into our new 1968 Chevy Malibu 396. Trip home was uneventful until we got into Tenn. We noticed cars coming south were covered in snow when we started into a very strong snowstorm. Within 2-3 miles the roads were covered and starting to get slick. I played it safe and stayed in right lane and followed slower moving cars. Out of no where came a semi passing us in left lane. just as he got alongside us he started to jackknife and slid into my front fender. That immediately moved me off the road and over the embankment. Luckily I didn't flip or hit anything but I was stuck. A car that was following us stopped and had the truck's identification. A few minutes later a State Patrol stopped to see if we were OK and called into local fire-rescue unit. He then left and went after the truck which had gone off the road a couple miles ahead. A few minutes later a volunteer fire unit arrived, ran a winch cable down and pulled us out. We got off at the next exit and got a room for the night. A short time later they closed the freeway and all hotels were full. The next morning we worked our way out of the town and finally got back on freeway which was clear the rest of the way home. The volunteer fire dept gave me their business card and I turned it over to my insurance company and they settled with them. The firemen told me not to worry about money as I was a Vet on way home. So God took care of us in our journey to get home by Christmas and be with family and friends.
Lorin
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Post by Jim on Dec 16, 2016 1:57:40 GMT 9
Gary, those pictures remind me of my hometown in southwestern NY along Lake Erie...........
Another Griffiss AFB Holiday season Dec. 1956 just a few days before Christmas, swing shift Postdock/FCF.... 2100 hrs, -5 degrees and the Northern lights are visible over what became SAC hill. You could hear them crackling.....
Towed the 94 out of the hangar to the trim pad next to the old warehouse, lined it up with the blast deflector and chocked it with brand new ice gripper chocks.Did all of the leak checks and burner operations with no problems and refueled it before we towed it back into the hangar. I should say, tried to tow it....
The ice gripper chocks had to be hit hard to get them loose, still couldn't move the 94 with the tug- all it did was spin wheels and slide sideways........The tires, being warm from the hangar had melted the ice and froze tight to the ice. Now comes a bright idea!!!!!!!!
Unhook the tow bar and I fire the bird up and slowly advance the throttle, nothing happens, so retard back to idle and fast advance to 100%. Still no go.......Minimum burner is next, yep, it comes loose...... How fast will an F-94C move when it suddenly is unrestrained? DAMNED FAST, and I only had about 500 feet to get that thing stopped!!!!!
Remember those winter tires that had the steel wool in the rubber? Called them ice tires I believe, we called them nasty SOB because you had to wear gloves to handle them. Don't think they were worth the money, because they weren't helping... A lagging brake was trying to get me to slide sideways, cheating me out of stopping space....... Got stopped with a few feet to spare and brown shorts..........
To get the bird back into the hangar, it had to be towed up a slight grade, make a turn and still go up another slight grade........ Got the idea yet? Tugs almost always had bald tires, and even at Griffiss, they wouldn't let us put chains on them. So, even with guys pushing the bird it wasn't moving....
Bright idea pops up again!!!!!! Fire it up, just get it rolling and back to idle, no problem, yet.. Time to turn. Now the 94, like its older sisters the F80 and T-33, are steered with brakes.... And by causing one brake to sort of drag, it causes the nose gear to start to turn in that direction, but only if that braking wheel doesn't start to slide..... Now what in hell am I going to do now? 2 guys get the nose to bouncing up and down and another one uses the shimmy dampers to slightly turn the nose gear... Works and we make it up the next grade, but we have to make a right turn to get lined up to go into the hangar- bouncing time again...
And I get lined up with our wheel tracks when we came out of the hangar and still have a grade to get up and have to get over a 6- 8 inch hump to roll into the hangar...... The hangar doors open up and I advance the throttle just enough to start to move, while I am trying to gage when I should chop the throttle off and not drain any fuel on the hangar floor. As the nose wheel rolls up the hump, I chop the throttle to off and roll into the hangar.
Now, I am sitting up there in the cockpit, proud as a peacock. That is, until I see this Captain step out of the shadows!!!!!!!!My guy just barely gets the ladder hooked on and the Capt. is in my face...... I waited until he was done jawing and said " Capt., you are in my way, we have work to do... We had to get this bird in the hangar before we go home... (It was policy in the 27thFIS (F-94) and the 465th FIS (F-89) that all aircraft were put in hangars at night so that snow removal could clear the ramp.) He said that I wasn't supposed to taxi into the hangar, I said I didn't taxi in, I coasted in."
Well, that ended the arse chewing and, for a while, enlisted taxiing- until a Qualified Pilot slid into snowbank and I make the remark within earshot of the CO, "Well I guess pilots are qualified to taxi into snowbanks, but SSgt aren't qualified to Coast into the hangar." About 15 minutes later I had my runup and taxi license back..... Pat Perry suggested that it has been a long time since I was in English class, so he showed me how to use paragraphs to make it easier to comprehend. Thanks Pat....
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 16, 2016 2:37:59 GMT 9
Great winter stories Lorin & Jim
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Post by LBer1568 on Dec 16, 2016 4:50:16 GMT 9
Gary, those pictures remind me of my hometown in southwestern NY along Lake Erie........... Another Griffiss AFB Holiday season Dec. 1956 just a few days before Christmas, swing shift Postdock/FCF.... 2100 hrs, -5 degrees and the Northern lights are visible over what became SAC hill. Jim, did your wife ever complain about all the "Brown Shorts?" lol
LORIN
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Post by Jim on Dec 16, 2016 5:00:48 GMT 9
Gary, those pictures remind me of my hometown in southwestern NY along Lake Erie........... Another Griffiss AFB Holiday season Dec. 1956 just a few days before Christmas, swing shift Postdock/FCF.... 2100 hrs, -5 degrees and the Northern lights are visible over what became SAC hill. Jim, did your wife ever complain about all the "Brown Shorts?" lol
LORIN
That is when laundry became my duty...........
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Post by LBer1568 on Dec 16, 2016 6:39:18 GMT 9
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Post by Gene on Dec 16, 2016 6:40:40 GMT 9
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