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Post by MOW on Jan 24, 2013 5:25:51 GMT 9
Here is the latest info from Proboards Support on our Image Upload/Display complaints. The CAP file extension is a reported bug, the doble .jpg.jpg is not yet.
In regards to the all caps file extension problem, that has been confirmed and reported. There should be a fix for that out sometime very soon.
The other issue, however, was far more perplexing. On a whim, I tried renaming one of the downloaded files with .jpg on the end, and viola! The correct image. Could you PM me the full path of the uploaded images? Screenshots of the users steps taken in the attachment and upload process would also be invaluable in rectifying this as quickly as possible. Thank you for your patience!
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Post by MOW on Jan 24, 2013 11:37:13 GMT 9
Latest from Proboards
"I have made a note about the .jpg.jpg duplication for the devs [developers] to look
into. Are attachments still opening normally? I clicked on a few, and
despite the 'broken' thumbnail [box with the red x] they opened just fine for me. The broken
thumbnail is an issue we are already aware of, and anticipate a fix
being pushed out for it by the end of the week."
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Post by pat perry on Jan 25, 2013 12:07:02 GMT 9
Yea I can open it also. Where is the cursor last at when you go to attach a photo? At the end of the text? I just uploaded this one and the cursor was at the end of the text and it placed the image right there. Typing more text here and will place cursor at beginning of the sentence and upload another... NOPE, it placed the image at the beginning of the text. I don't know, but I will add this "deleting text when uploading image" thing to the support thread MOW, I started the post by typing a sentence about what I was testing using my wife's laptop. Then I did two returns and clicked Add Attachment and uploaded the picture. As soon as the picture inserted in the post it blew away my text. I couldn't reinsert the cursor at the upper left of the picture so I went ahead and clicked Done and Create Post. I then edited and tried to reinsert the cursor ahead of the picture but it wouldn't reinsert. I gave up and typed an Edit note in the box to indicate what happened. One thing I thought of later is maybe I could have changed to BBCode and moved the picture down that way. I can try that with another edit. I have no idea why it blew the text away with picture insertion but the same thing happened with Jim's post on the F-111. Pat P. |
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Post by Jim on Jan 26, 2013 2:58:40 GMT 9
{Spoiler}Testing spoiler not sure what it does but wanted to try it Maybe it's to hide punch lines for jokes...  Pat P. Didn't do a damned thing... I think that several of the ProBoard people worked for Micro Soft- dumping something out without any operating instructions and too many things that don't work.... It is like the aircraft industry of the past 35-40 years... Get it out there we will fix it later mentality. Windows XP,VISTA, 7 and now 8 are prime examples........ |
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Post by MOW on Jan 26, 2013 7:39:09 GMT 9
Jim you're too hard. This Spoiler app is a plug-in, an add-on, that gets turned on or off depending if a site wants it or not. I was just seeing what it did and if it had any use for us. As pat perry says probably good for hiding punch lines, and I'm sure there are types of sites out there with lots of uses for it, just not ours. As for Proboards dumping something out there, that's just not fair. They've been working on this for almost 2 years. It's a huge project to upgrade something like this and migrate it without loosing anyone's data (member accounts, posts, attachments, personal settings etc). And their Spoiler, the BetaZone sites, have been up since last Fall, which I told you guys all about as soon as it went up to give everyone a chance to experiment with it and send in your complaints. We've all had ample time to find problem areas, and those of us who actually spent time in the BetaZone site did find a lot of problems which are since fixed now in this first release. And, this is not actually the first release, it's the first live beta release, which means... tada... still finding and fixing problems. Version 1 release is not scheduled until April. So complain all you want, but the reason I jumped on this early release is so that we can get used to the changes sooner and also be part of the driving force in shaping this into what WE like by making changes and additions during this beta time. Once it goes operational in April changes and additions will be much harder to get and take longer... that's how software management works, not software development who actually looks out for us end users in an operational environment... no, the management who cares only about the bottom line and only funds what will help them with it. Microsoft developers are some of the best in the world, it's too bad the political management of MS doesn't allow us to see and experience what they can really do. Oh, and did I mention Proboards is FREE? We don't pay sh!t for it!
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Post by Jim on Jan 26, 2013 8:13:40 GMT 9
Pat, it is just frustration, give me a book or a plan and there ain't a damned thing I can't do or BUILD.... I use to fly all over the USA, but I had tools to use to get me there. I could make out a flight plan with 5 stops on it with nothing more than a magnetic compas and or a radio compass. But I had rec'd instructions and had the books as to how to do it. Here, it is, on my part trying to figure out what "Falling" is or does. Just like in the notices that are flagged on Profile- might have a 1 or 2 in it . So, I clicked on it- it told me that I had messages informing me that MOW2 and 3 were waiting for registration approval, so I go to members and look for pending- nothing there and there is no drop down menu showing what I can do or can't do. This also allowed me to ban members, but I can't find it anymore.... Bear with me and accept my apology.... Jim |
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Post by MOW on Jan 26, 2013 8:59:31 GMT 9
Pat, it is just frustration, give me a book or a plan and there ain't a damned thing I can't do or BUILD.... I use to fly all over the USA, but I had tools to use to get me there. I could make out a flight plan with 5 stops on it with nothing more than a magnetic compas and or a radio compass. But I had rec'd instructions and had the books as to how to do it. Here, it is, on my part trying to figure out what "Falling" is or does. Just like in the notices that are flagged on Profile- might have a 1 or 2 in it . So, I clicked on it- it told me that I had messages informing me that MOW2 and 3 were waiting for registration approval, so I go to members and look for pending- nothing there and there is no drop down menu showing what I can do or can't do. This also allowed me to ban members, but I can't find it anymore.... Bear with me and accept my apology.... Jim No worries Jim I'm frustrated too that I can't figure certain things out in here. I'm trying to put together a FAQ section and some instructions of basic functions, but with so many issues to address and things to research myself, it's hard to find the time. By the time I get it doen, we'll all know what we're doing. |
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Post by pat perry on Jan 27, 2013 1:23:49 GMT 9
Hi MOW, It looks like our forum stored pictures have been turned off. The only pics showing up now are those linked to a photo host like PhotoBucket, Flickr, etc. This may be what your Alert Message above is all about - we have exceeded our storage allocation. Or it could mean they have taken storage off line to troubleshoot the upload problem. Or it could mean they are moving us fully online with the Beta v5. Don't know which it is. Could you clarify? I think I remember that you said we have a free allocation of up to 200 megabytes of picture storage. Any higher than that, we have to pay for. Correct me if I'm wrong. Since there is a 1 meg limit size on uploads, our limit could be reached pretty quick if there are a lot of attachments uploaded that are close to 1 meg in size. I know that my old photo host (WebShots) was uploading over a million photos a day. They didn't have an individual picture upload size limit but rather an overall storage size limit per user. When a user uploaded pictures, WebShots used a compression sequence to reduce the file size of each picture. This was a good idea because some of these new small cameras would have users trying to upload pics over 2.5 meg each in size. Doesn't take long to fill up a server at that rate. I guess that's why Cloud Servers are the hot item today. Even with greater bandwidth we are running a race to keep up with the number of new Internet device users added every day with smart phones and pad devices that have smaller storage capacity than a PC. Kind of like buying a new car with a smaller gas tank and having to fill it up at each gas station you pass which is supplied by a huge gasoline storage tank in some rural location. Pat P. |
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Post by pat perry on Jan 27, 2013 5:02:33 GMT 9
Effective Immediately - If your photo is NOT an airplane or airplane related DO NOT UPLOAD IT AS AN ATTACHMENT!
Find a web hosting site to upload it to and link it on the forum using Image Button. Guns, Vacations and Politics make up almost 60% of our attachments to date and we have exceeded our limit.
While MOW is deleting a lot of old non-aircraft stored pictures in our archives to get us back below our picture space limit, he has paid for extra capacity but we need to get back to a lower level that is within our free allocation of space.
There is a need to store our non-aircraft pics on a photo hosting site and just add a link to our post to make it show up as a picture. This will help keep our own picture storage airplane specific which is why the site really exists in the first place. There is nothing that says you can't store your airplane pictures in a photo hosting site like Mark does and just link them to your posts. Mark uses PhotoBucket.com to store his pictures and he is quite satisfied with it.
Some of you have asked what photo host sites are available and how they compare. This site helps begin that search
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photo_sharing_websites
This link will probably be better for checking a number of site comparisons from various sources.
Google search comparison of photo hosting websites
If any of you are using a photo hosting site besides PhotoBucket that you are happy with, please let us know about it and why you like it. Also let us know about those that you have used and would not recommend and why.
I recommend looking for one that has:
1- free and premium membership offerings.
2- the ability to upload pictures with your browser rather than using software you have to download.
3- the ability to link your pictures to Forums or Blogs individually and/or in sets or "albums".
4- the ability to let you provide captions with the pictures.
5- the ability to store your pictures in folders or albums as a set.
6- the ability to make you photos public or private.
7- the ability to allow your photos to be downloaded or not.
8- the ability for you to NOT to give up your ownership of your photos if you decide to stop using the site.
For that reason I no longer recommend WebShots because they stopped offering many of the features I listed above.
If the photo you want to add to your post already exists on a website, just add the link to your post so others can go see it. Also describe what people will see if they click the link - don't just post the link with no other wording.
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Post by MOW on Jan 27, 2013 7:09:53 GMT 9
Hi MOW, It looks like our forum stored pictures have been turned off. The only pics showing up now are those linked to a photo host like PhotoBucket, Flickr, etc. This may be what your Alert Message above is all about - we have exceeded our storage allocation. Or it could mean they have taken storage off line to troubleshoot the upload problem. Or it could mean they are moving us fully online with the Beta v5. Don't know which it is. Could you clarify? I think I remember that you said we have a free allocation of up to 200 megabytes of picture storage. Any higher than that, we have to pay for. Correct me if I'm wrong. Since there is a 1 meg limit size on uploads, our limit could be reached pretty quick if there are a lot of attachments uploaded that are close to 1 meg in size. I know that my old photo host (WebShots) was uploading over a million photos a day. They didn't have an individual picture upload size limit but rather an overall storage size limit per user. When a user uploaded pictures, WebShots used a compression sequence to reduce the file size of each picture. This was a good idea because some of these new small cameras would have users trying to upload pics over 2.5 meg each in size. Doesn't take long to fill up a server at that rate. I guess that's why Cloud Servers are the hot item today. Even with greater bandwidth we are running a race to keep up with the number of new Internet device users added every day with smart phones and pad devices that have smaller storage capacity than a PC. Kind of like buying a new car with a smaller gas tank and having to fill it up at each gas station you pass which is supplied by a huge gasoline storage tank in some rural location. Pat P. I notice that all attachment photo thumbnails are gone and only the word Attachment and the File Name Link remain, but the link works and does open the photo. I signed up for the additional paid storage yesterday and it took affect immediately, so I don't know if the thumbnails are actually gone now or what. I also see that those same File Name Links have the double .jpg.jpg so it's possible this has nothing to do with the storage problem, but as you say maybe the problems they are working on. We'll see. Ys, the default free storage was 200MB, which I'm SURE we exceeded long ago and just never got caught or monitored. When I got the alert yesterday we were at over double the limit. The Manage Attachments page is nice, but only allows deleting attachments one at a time, ugh! That's why it was taking so long to cleanup and get us back down... which I NEVER did, only got down to 233MB and that was hours of work. That's when I said screw it and paid for a 500MB monthly limit. I'm going to upload an image here and see what happens. Attachment DeletedSeems to have worked. |
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Post by pat perry on Jan 27, 2013 7:58:46 GMT 9
Testing picture upload that blows away preceeding text. Using HP laptop running MS 7 and IE 9. Looks like it worked. Text is still here. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by MOW on Jan 27, 2013 8:15:11 GMT 9
Testing picture upload that blows away preceeding text. Using HP laptop running MS 7 and IE 9. Looks like it worked. Text is still here. AND... I can open the photo! I wonder if that allocation thing had anything to do with it? With a 200MB limit, and being at over 400MB stored  without knowing it (or being alerted to it), it could have had an impact. |
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Post by pat perry on Jan 27, 2013 8:18:38 GMT 9
Well, now that the photo upload test worked on my wife's laptop and I can open it on my PC, I'll try to upload from here and see if it works correctly during enlargement. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by MOW on Jan 27, 2013 8:23:16 GMT 9
Well, now that the photo upload test worked on my wife's laptop and I can open it on my PC, I'll try to upload from here and see if it works correctly during enlargement. Worked for me! I can enlarge it just fine. |
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Post by pat perry on Jan 27, 2013 8:56:09 GMT 9
Testing picture upload that blows away preceeding text. Using HP laptop running MS 7 and IE 9. Looks like it worked. Text is still here. AND... I can open the photo! I wonder if that allocation thing had anything to do with it? With a 200MB limit, and being at over 400MB stored without knowing it (or being alerted to it), it could have had an impact. MOW, I had the same thought about the over limit problem. Funny thing though, on my wife's laptop the Add Attachment listed only the file name that was selected for upload. On my PC, it listed the full file path but the upload worked and enlarged properly. I'd like to know what they found that fixed it. BTW here's a Review site for comparison of the top 10 photo sharing sites. Even has an audio introduction about how to select the site you need. photo-sharing-services-review.toptenreviews.com/ . PhotoBucket Pro is rated at the top of the list. I had forgotten I had a Flickr free membership www.flickr.com//photos/13909747@N04/sets/72157632620058892/show/ . I'll check out PhotoBucket too. Pat P. |
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Post by MOW on Jan 30, 2013 13:14:09 GMT 9
UPDATE 30 JAN 2013
The ProBoard sysadmin's pushed out a patch earlier today that seems to have started restoring all the missing attachment thumbnails. I went and checked out some of the threads and the thumbnails are reappearing. They may want to Save or Open With the first time you try one. If so, select Open With and choose your browser, and also check the box to make that the 'default action' to take so that all others will open the same way.
Let me know if you notice any issues as the thumbnails return.
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Post by pat perry on Feb 6, 2013 6:23:59 GMT 9
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Post by pat perry on Feb 6, 2013 6:28:46 GMT 9
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Post by Mark O on Feb 6, 2013 6:44:57 GMT 9
Pat P.
I see the .pdf file link, and it opened just fine.
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Post by pat perry on Feb 6, 2013 7:15:12 GMT 9
Well, that didn't work. Let's try a picture. MOW, I'm back to the same problem photo upload problem as before. The picture will insert in the post but can't be enlarged. Clicking on the picture only offers a Find or Save option. Until today, I have not tried an Add Attachment upload since PB turned the thumbnails back on last week. I started by trying to upload a PDF file for the All F-106 Reunion. You can see by the post before this one that the PDF file was moved into my C:\ directory before uploading and the file name includes the complete path rather than just the file name of the target attachment. This is really weird. Mark just replied that he could open the PDF file I posted just fine. When I check properties on that PDF file I get this file name forum.f-106deltadart.com/attachment/download/1882 . When I open the PDF on my PC I get A9R114.tmp file name. I cleaned out my temp file and tried to click the PDF file again and got the Angry Bear. Think I'll give up for now. Mark, I'm going to try and add that PDF attachment to the to the All F-106 Reunion thread so please let me know if it opens OK. Thanks, Pat P. |
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