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Post by delta6actual on Nov 16, 2010 18:36:39 GMT 9
Since this is an interceptor website, I was wondering if there are any Voodoo websites? My favorite 2 interceptors are the F-106 and the F-101. Here we have a fantastic website about the F-106, but I haven't found much of anything on the F-101. I own every book ever written on the F-101 (all of 7.) I even volunteered to write an F-101 book for squadron signal. They never did an "in action" book on the F-101 (though they said one was in the works 2 years ago.) Its probably the most forgotten century series fighter. If nothing is available, I would like to start an F-101 website. If anyone here is a Voodoo pilot, Scope Wizard, or Medicine man, I'd like to hear from you. Plus, I'd like to learn as much as I can about the Falcon missile and the MA-1 Fire control system. :fire_missle_ani
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Post by MOW on Nov 16, 2010 19:13:42 GMT 9
No, don't see alot of about the Voodoo on the web. Sounds to me like someone needs to start that website
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Post by oswald on Nov 16, 2010 22:58:00 GMT 9
:patriotic-flagwaver Delta6, I always liked doing quick turns on the voodoos when they would come to our base occasionally. I got to install dragchutes :fire_missle_ani
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Post by Bullhunter on Nov 17, 2010 1:23:02 GMT 9
The only thing I can offer is a photo of F-101's at McChord AFB. I enjoyed the F-101's when they visited us from Comax Air Base, British Columbia, Canada.
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Post by Mark O on Nov 17, 2010 9:54:29 GMT 9
A few of my F-101 photos. The first one is of the 409 Squadron out of CFB Comox. I took that photo back in 1980 or 1981 when they came down to Moses Lake, WA for an air show. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._409_Squadron_RCAFSpeaking of drag chutes, I remember one of the CAF pilots response to someone who asked him why they didn't use their drag chutes when landing at Moses Lake. He said, "You've got to be some kind of homo to use a chute on 14 thousand feet of runway!" (BTW, it was only 13,500', but he made his point!) Mark The 409 Sq actually mailed this to me when I wrote them. I have their squadron patch, and a 'One-O-Wonder' patch too! (Not for sale or trade!!) 18th FIS at Grand Forks AFB. These guys are an agressor squadron now flying F-16s in Alaska! RF-101 on display at Little Rock AFB. I took this shot in 2007 when I was at FE school just before they painted it with SEA camo.
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Post by soc on Nov 18, 2010 0:25:26 GMT 9
B model Voodoos first carried six Falcons, three on each side of the rotating door. This lasted about 5 minutes, at which point the USAF found yet another airplane they could stick the AIR-2 on! For the bulk of its career it carried two AIM-4s on one side of the pallet and two AIR-2s on the other. AIM-4A and AIM-4C models were used for a while, but they most often used the AIM-4D once it became available.
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Nov 18, 2010 8:19:01 GMT 9
The Voodoo was an interesting plane. The A model carried cannons, was single seat, and the fire control system was not too great. It was mainly used as an escort for SAC. The 101B model was designed and the McDonnell wanted to designate it as the F109. The fire control was a competitor of the MA-1. The bird was extended a bit to accommodate the back seat. The engines were still J-57s, but with a longer burner. So, McDonnell just faired in the burners and extended them along the fuselage. The first B model I saw was at The SCAB. The 13th FIS was scheduled to move to Glasgow, Montana, and some of our pilots were already sent TDY to learn to fly them. One pilot landed at The SCAB to show off the new interceptor, and show us how much better it was than the 86L. When he took off, it was break ground and then straight up. Man what a show. The Voodoo had all kinds of climb to altitude records. When I was at Minot, I was the head of the crew that recovered Scorpions from Hector Field in Fargo, and Voodoos from Glasgow and Grand Forks. I found the Voodoo to be an easy bird to do a rapid turn around on. It was pretty simple from that perspective. Had one of them needed a tire change, or we ran out of drag chutes, we had a problem we couldn't fix real quick. The chute shop could repack used chutes, but that took time. Unlike the 86D/L, you couldn't just cram the chute in the hole and close the door. Never had to pull an engine, but it sat higher than the Scorpion, so it had to be easier than that one, where you had to crawl on the ground in order to open the panels.
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Post by delta6actual on Nov 18, 2010 9:04:09 GMT 9
Thanks for all of the replies! I love all of the pictures and the stories, keep 'em coming!!!
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Post by Mark O on Nov 18, 2010 9:38:46 GMT 9
A few more of my photos of Voodoos on display around the country. Plus, here's a link of a really cool shot of an 83rd FIS F-101B from the Hamilton AFB wiki page... upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Hamilton-yearbook-1968.jpgHere we go! BTW, I took all of these photos during some of my many TDYs, or assignments. NYANG bird on display at Travis AFB, CA. I think I took this in 2005 or 2006. The RF-101C at Little Rock AFB after the re-paint. I like it better with this scheme. I took this one earlier this year when I was at FE Instructor school. At Lackland AFB. Joe Baugher calls this one a TF-101B, converted from an F-101B. Not sure the history on that, but notice that it does not have the IR sensor in front of the windscreen. TXANG bird on display at Dyess AFB taken this spring. I drive by this aircraft at least twice a day!
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Post by soc on Nov 18, 2010 17:19:26 GMT 9
A "TF-101B" is actually an F-101F. They were dual control Voodoos, useable for training. Called TF-101B initially, they were redesignated F-101F at some point. No IRST is no big deal, that just means it retained the IFR probe as it didn't receive the IRST upgrade under BOLD JOURNEY.
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Post by delta6actual on Nov 20, 2010 15:56:37 GMT 9
You can usually tell an F model from a B model in two ways. First the radar screen in the front cockpit of an F is mounted higher and is partly above the top of the panel. Also there is another fixed splitter plate in the intakes of F models. This all besides the obvious second set of controls in the back seat. The earliest B's didn't have IRST's and some of the last (58-59) didn't have them either. I recall seeing an F-101 IRST for sale on Ebay a couple of years ago. They wanted $25,000 for it. It was only for on there for a few hours and then it was removed!
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Post by delta6actual on Nov 28, 2010 15:24:12 GMT 9
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Post by Bullhunter on Nov 29, 2010 0:55:58 GMT 9
Very good pictures. I don't really care for the camo paint job on an F-101.
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Nov 29, 2010 5:31:33 GMT 9
If you went to the E-Bay info on the Voodoo cockpit, it only talks about it being a TAC long range penetration fighter (read SAC escort), but not it's roll as an Air Defense Command Fighter Interceptor. The author of the article must not know the difference between the A & B models. I don't know why. Will just credit it to ignorance. The A was intended for SAC escort, but the B was a purpose designed Interceptor. The cockpit went from one to two seats. The engines were later models of the J-57 that required the burners to be 8 feet longer. That's why they come out so far along the fuselage. The B didn't have cannons, just missiles. The B was the only won with an IR head. It was so radically changed from the A model that McDonnell wanted it to be designated as the F-109. I wish people who write about airplanes would get things right. I'm reading a book, from England, that is about World War Two airplanes. On the B-29 page, there is a picture of a B-36. Go figure. Poor editing. I've read far too many comments about the SIX being a TAC airplane. Maybe in it's last years, until replaced by the 15, but most of the history of the SIX was with ADC. If you notice there are not many books about ADC, but sure are plenty about SAC. I guess it's still true, the Air Force world revolves around the big stuff, not the fighters. Jim Too :god_bless_usa
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Post by MOW on Nov 29, 2010 5:59:40 GMT 9
If you went to the E-Bay info on the Voodoo cockpit, it only talks about it being a TAC long range penetration fighter (read SAC escort), but not it's roll as an Air Defense Command Fighter Interceptor. The author of the article must not know the difference between the A & B models. I don't know why. Will just credit it to ignorance. The A was intended for SAC escort, but the B was a purpose designed Interceptor. The cockpit went from one to two seats. The engines were later models of the J-57 that required the burners to be 8 feet longer. That's why they come out so far along the fuselage. The B didn't have cannons, just missiles. The B was the only won with an IR head. It was so radically changed from the A model that McDonnell wanted it to be designated as the F-109. I wish people who write about airplanes would get things right. I'm reading a book, from England, that is about World War Two airplanes. On the B-29 page, there is a picture of a B-36. Go figure. Poor editing. I've read far too many comments about the SIX being a TAC airplane. Maybe in it's last years, until replaced by the 15, but most of the history of the SIX was with ADC. If you notice there are not many books about ADC, but sure are plenty about SAC. I guess it's still true, the Air Force world revolves around the big stuff, not the fighters. Jim Too Well, this is info I will definitely refer back to and use as we start the F-101VooDoo website :2thumbsup
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Post by duy on Nov 29, 2010 9:40:39 GMT 9
I submit a photo from McChord AFB, WA open house July 1974 of an F101 voodoo on public display flown in from Portland Oregon.
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Post by Mark O on Nov 29, 2010 9:49:34 GMT 9
If you went to the E-Bay info on the Voodoo cockpit, it only talks about it being a TAC long range penetration fighter (read SAC escort), but not it's roll as an Air Defense Command Fighter Interceptor. The author of the article must not know the difference between the A & B models. I don't know why. I do. Because it's eBay. Mark
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Post by delta6actual on Dec 3, 2010 16:21:20 GMT 9
Thanks for all of the replies guys! Love the new pictures! As far as the E-Bay comments, there are a lot of people in the world that don't quite know what they are talking about. There are a lot of little snippets about the F-101 that say it carried 6 Falcons. Not So!!!! Never did. But oh well. The last one flew when I was in 5th grade but I know better, its just a matter of what you are passionate about, and I'm passionate about the VOODOO!!!!
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Post by MOW on Dec 3, 2010 20:13:24 GMT 9
FYI,
delta6actual and I will soon be collaborating together on a Voodoo website. He'll do most of the research and data gathering, and I'll host the site, build it and maintain it.
We plan on modeling the site similar to the F-106 site with some of the same type of features and look, but different colors, graphics etc so it is familiar to our visitors yet still unique Voodoo.
What do all think about that idea?
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Post by lugnuts55 on Dec 3, 2010 22:45:27 GMT 9
I personally don't know much about the F-101. The last one I saw was in Tech school on 1970. We had our class picture taken in front of it. I do however, think that as long as delta6actual is as passionate as he seems to be, there will be plenty for the webmaster to keep himself busy with. I like the way this forum and web site is put together. It draws a constant flow of information and conversation. Once the word gets out that there is a web site for 101 enthusiasts, it will be as successful as this one. That's my two cents worth.
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