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Post by Bullhunter on Mar 20, 2009 13:47:13 GMT 9
The submitted document below answers that question. Click on to enlarge: That be my squadron. :lol :thumbsup
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Post by Gene on Mar 20, 2009 16:11:35 GMT 9
i was there when "chappy" james gave the award to col. haight... it was col. haight that set up the photo ops for me that same year :salute .
i kept in touch with the col. when he transfered to adc/ig... he was a great guy!!!
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Post by lindel on Mar 20, 2009 19:46:01 GMT 9
Yup, and the 49th got one just like that (with a couple of MAJOR differences) in '78! That was the year the 49th pilots arrived in Zoot suits and with violin cases. We also rigged up a car (a 60's something convertible) with a dummy aim 4 missle on top of it. They raffled it off and the winner drove it into the gulf (he was a wee bit snockerd at the time). I don't know if any of that got recorded for posterity's sake or not. It would be a good video!
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Post by Bullhunter on Mar 21, 2009 1:09:54 GMT 9
Gene, It's damn funny. I'm writing this book and have 212 pages with 3/4's covering my USAF days and for the life of me I can't remember that 318th FIS Hughes trophy Banquet. My ex-wife and I attended it but I don't recall a thing about it. No worries I guess,,, that was 33 years ago. Lindel, The 49th was also a great squadron. I posted this thread to stir-up some talk and debate about our ADC squadrons. Only two responses about the 318th FIS and the 49th FIS. So is it that these were the top 2 ADC FIS squadrons? ?? :confused BTW, what the hell is a zoot suit? I have never heard that used before. :scratch_head :fire_missle_ani
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Mar 21, 2009 2:11:19 GMT 9
A Zoot Suit was something worn by the be bop and jitter bug crowd. Had a long coat, trousers that came up very high on the chest with braces (suspenders) to hold them up. very slim legs and some even had zippers on the bottoms to get them over your feet. The shoes were usually two-tone wing tips. The hat was very broad billed and had a small crown. Ties were either very wide, Ascot style, or a variation of a string tie. The other accessory was a very long chain that looped from the belt down below the knees and back to the pocket. The female equivalent was the bobby sox, two-tone buck shoes, flaring skirt and a cashmere sweater. The boys and girls would get together and dance to the big band jazz and be bop rhythms of the late thirties and early forties. The Zoot Suit was pretty well done by the time WW2 ended, and was mostly worn by draft dodgers at that time. As Kay Kyser would say, "That's your history lesson for to-day, boys and girls." :
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Post by Gene on Mar 21, 2009 2:28:47 GMT 9
bull, i don't remember the banquet persay, there were a lot of them, at both clubs in the '70's... i remember the experience of the moment...
and i always appreciate a good history lesson...
gene :us_flag
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Post by lindel on Mar 21, 2009 3:42:48 GMT 9
I don't recall that the 49th had a banquet, at least not one that I was invited to. I do recall having a big bash in the main hanger, with entertainment provided. Compliments of the participating pilots IIRC.
Col. Jim Lowe was pretty laid back, and treated the enlisted troops well, at least to my 18 yr old mind (at the time).
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Post by Bullhunter on Mar 21, 2009 4:36:43 GMT 9
The banquet was also the Freedom Birds deditaction. :patriotic-flagwaver :fire_missle_ani
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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on Mar 21, 2009 4:44:17 GMT 9
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Post by az09 on Mar 21, 2009 5:48:27 GMT 9
Would this be like the best assignment definition?? The one you just left and the one you are going to next.
The short time I was in the 84th FIS, we were the 78th CAMS, then held the 1st FWg colors until the F-15's were put in place in Va. then we settled into the 84th FIS. All this with the same lightning bolts on the tails of our darts. We did have a few darts decked out in the livery of the gold-green-black of the 1st ........
All this took place between Paine Field, Hamilton, and then Castle. Looking back at my ADC days the unit was always in flux of identity and purpose.
The only awards we were up for was how well we could sew on the next set of Sq patches. Make the next unit move. My part was there in Novato.
We had a Constant Speed Drive test stand that never got set-up in the test room. The in-shop folks didn't need it and the flight line support section was too busy in the hangers and on the flight line to bother with the test equipment.
In 1970 we went to William Tell and placed 2nd. Good enough for everyone on orders to be awarded an AFCM. Even the guy who was replaced the night before the TDY because he was sick with the flu. But not the guy who replaced him and did the work.
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Mar 21, 2009 5:58:25 GMT 9
:salute When I arrived at Minot I was assigned to the 32nd CAMRON. We took care of the Darts and 5th FIS flew them. That was in January 1962. Lt. Col. Joe Roberts was the CAMRON CO. He was the first Minot AFB CO, as he opened the base during the construction. He was a major at the time. After the base was built and operational, SAC came in with the BUFF and ADC the Dart. At that point ADC owned the base. In 1962 SAC took ownership and ADC decided to go to 66-1 maintenance and combine the 5th and the CAMRON in to the 5th FIS. The 5th also got a new CO, Lt.Col. Jacksal M. Broughton. What a change. The 5th was noted as being a not so good fighter squadron and had never, to my knowledge, passed an ORI at Minot. Pretty sad shape. So in comes this hotshot LC, former Thunderbirds commander to take over the mess. He fired a few people and told us that anyone who wasn't willing to work for him to report to the orderly room to begin out processing. We had one Tech who did just that. Was discharged in a couple of days and then went to SAC and reupped. Well, any way, from being a Sad Sack outfit to what it became took a while, but when we passed a super ORI with flying colors everyone was very happy. It wasn't too long and the Darts all had a ribbon on their tails to let everyone know we were an outstanding unit. Was the 5th the best fighter squadron in ADC? To us it was. However, the arguments will continue and no conclusion will be made that we all agree on. One thing we can all agree on. The F106 was the best, the very best fighter interceptor ever put in service and F106 squadrons were the best in the entire world. :god_bless_usa
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Post by Jeff Shannon on Mar 21, 2009 7:27:32 GMT 9
I don't recall that the 49th had a banquet, at least not one that I was invited to. I do recall having a big bash in the main hanger, with entertainment provided. Compliments of the participating pilots IIRC. Col. Jim Lowe was pretty laid back, and treated the enlisted troops well, at least to my 18 yr old mind (at the time). Col Lowe was a great Commander, and person. I had been tasked to build up a seat for the flight sim and when they (two seats to make one) arrived I thought they had to be kidding, it was well they both were a wreck. However Col Lowe came by one day saw me in the shop working on them and spent about 3 hours with me asking questions about the seat and asked if he could help I said sure and he went to town tearing one of the seats apart. He could turn a mean wrench I might add!! :thumbsup
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Post by Bullhunter on Apr 1, 2009 9:51:29 GMT 9
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Post by Mark O on Apr 1, 2009 14:35:41 GMT 9
318 FIS Looking good even back then. Just discovered this picture does not look good when enlarged. That is so cool! It's given be an idea for our yearly squadron photo. If they can do a 318, I'm pretty sure we can do a 40. Mark
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Post by Bullhunter on Apr 1, 2009 15:04:14 GMT 9
You sure can. Park one of your C-130's in the back and you will have a great picture.
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Post by Gene on Apr 1, 2009 15:49:52 GMT 9
you beat me to it....its the cover of this months ripcord... gene
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Post by kinneer on May 12, 2009 1:55:14 GMT 9
:)The best FIS was definitely the 84TH at Hamilton. We had the largest WAF squadron in ADC and were located 20 minutes from San Francisco. Blue skys and sunshine almost every day. What more could a ypung man want?
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Post by Bullhunter on May 12, 2009 3:55:55 GMT 9
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Post by falconkeeper on Jun 12, 2009 5:35:49 GMT 9
In the 5 years that I was in 5FIS, we changed COs every 6 months. It seems that we were so good, that we were used to give Lt. Cols. command time before they put on eagles.
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Post by dude on Jun 12, 2009 13:51:12 GMT 9
:)The best FIS was definitely the 84TH at Hamilton. We had the largest WAF squadron in ADC and were located 20 minutes from San Francisco. Blue skys and sunshine almost every day. What more could a ypung man want? Well if that's the criteria, I have to put in a pitch for the 48th at Langley. Co-located with TAC HQ there were a zillion WAFs and civilian darlins running around the base. Also, in less than an hour you could be sippin suds and enjoying the sites and extra curricular activities at Virginia Beach. Also because of TAC HQ and sharing the runway with NASA, you never knew what you would see coming or going. I remember the YFs that eventually became the F-16 and the F-18 and the YF-14 that was the forerunner to the C-17 all coming to show off to the TAC brass. First active F-15s came to Langley, just as they now have the first F-22s. Then there was the VTOL stuff that NASA was always playing with. Langley. A Happening Place. :tailed-devil
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