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Post by Mark O on Nov 3, 2011 12:26:11 GMT 9
Is this the difference you refer to? www.f-106deltadart.com/27fis.htm This one of the first 10 a/c that I painted in 1960 and the anti glare is as it came from Convair.... The angle of attack transducer was always in the gray....... I forget which T.O. listed all of the decal positions and specification, but the same one gave the specifics on applying the anti-glare using a string, a pencil and a certain rivet to get the proper arc....... Without the T.O. what they have looks pretty good........... Sorry Jim, but I'm not sure which photo you're referring to as the link opened up the 27th FIS page, and not a specific photo. What I mean is basically how smooth the curve was on the anti-glare shield as it went down to the bottom. It starts curving from right where the aft frame of the windscreen meets the forward frame of the canopy. The Dover Six paint job goes forward past the IR probe before it starts curving down. Look at these two photos from both sides of the nose for what I mean, then look at that photo Gary posted. Completely different. Notwithstanding the AOA transducer, not only does the Dover Six look wrong, it is wrong. By the way, I sure would love to see the T.O. that referenced a specific rivet as a point to start the arc! That is so COOL!
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Post by Jim on Nov 3, 2011 13:08:13 GMT 9
Your pic of 031 and the pic I referenced came from the same collection, fourth from top on left side. Have a hunch that when they preped that area they sanded away any reference as to where it had been.... No doubt the airplane is older than anyone who restored it.. At least it is a saved a/c........
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Post by Mark O on Nov 3, 2011 13:33:52 GMT 9
...At least it is a saved a/c........ Yea, no kidding. I still have a bunch of the saves on my list to visit. Another reason for Penny and me to get that RV! I was just thinking about another version of the anti-glare paint job no one ever talks about. This one on 459 during the speed record work-ups. (First picture on the page with Col Rogers.) www.f-106deltadart.com/speedrecord.htmMark
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Post by Bullhunter on Nov 3, 2011 14:11:34 GMT 9
This is the T-33 outside the Dover America Legion Lodge just north of the base. Attachments:
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Post by Bullhunter on Nov 3, 2011 14:12:27 GMT 9
Tail number Attachments:
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Post by jimpadgett on Nov 3, 2011 23:28:54 GMT 9
Yes, The six does look better than the last time I as there. Need to get the curator there to access this web site. When I get by there again I'll talk to him.
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Post by Cougar on Apr 12, 2012 3:21:41 GMT 9
Question: Why, when they restore these acft, do they add the 0 to the front of the tail number? We already know the acft is over ten years old. :us_flag
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Post by pat perry on Apr 12, 2012 8:52:46 GMT 9
Question: Why, when they restore these acft, do they add the 0 to the front of the tail number? We already know the acft is over ten years old. Cougar, In 1967 when I was at the 456th FIS we received a directive that a 0 had to be put in front of the number to indicate it was in it's second decade. Example 72456 would become 0-72456. Then supposedly each decade later it would add another 0 in front. Seemed pretty dumb to me. Why didn't they just put the whole number on it 57-2456 and be done with it? I think that number scheme was cancelled in the 70's. It's probably a good thing because today they would have to put 4 or 5 0's on the tail of a B-52. :rofl Pat P.
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Post by Mark O on Apr 12, 2012 10:05:28 GMT 9
Question: Why, when they restore these acft, do they add the 0 to the front of the tail number? We already know the acft is over ten years old. It's like a snapshot in time. They want it to have the correct markings for the period in time it served. That means the correct colors, markings, and tail number. Pretty good attention to detail if you ask me.
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Post by lindel on Apr 16, 2012 14:55:44 GMT 9
I understand correct markings, colors, etc., but I don't ever remember seeing a Six with a zero in front of the tail no. Not in real life anyway.
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Post by Mark O on Apr 17, 2012 10:31:05 GMT 9
I understand correct markings, colors, etc., but I don't ever remember seeing a Six with a zero in front of the tail no. Not in real life anyway. Here's a bunch. 95th FIS since we're talking about Dover's Six. This is from November 1969 while they were in Korea. (Photo from Marty Isham Collection, via Erv's site.) Speaking of colors, notice how almost every one of these aircraft have slightly different shades of blue especially 57-2473 compared to the others. Maybe due to fading, perhaps a more recent paint job? Does anyone have any first hand insight on this particular marking? Here's a link to the same site with a pic of 90074, or should I say "0-90074" in 49th FIS markings. www.convairf-106deltadart.com/59007404Large.html
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Post by resistor1 on Apr 17, 2012 20:44:06 GMT 9
Also notice the eagle ADC patch is not on the Six at Dover. It has mrbones on both sides of the tail. Sure wish they would correct this. :us_flag Resistor1
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Post by LBer1568 on Apr 18, 2012 4:56:16 GMT 9
I was an agumentee from Tyndall supporting the 318th FIS at Osan in 1968. When the 49th FIS replaced the 318th, they left the 318th aircraft. When did they swap out the 318th birds back to McChord? The photo here shows 95th FIS Round-eyes at Osan in Nov 1969. Many of these were originally 539th FIS birds that Ron Rusnak and I worked on in 1964-1967 timeframe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2012 5:19:22 GMT 9
Yessir, we had a bunch of the 57's in the 24-- and 25-- series aircraft. I guess Lorin and I kept them in pretty good shape for everybody else, they still kept going long after I got out in 67.
I just love looking at those birds. I remember too many aches and pains, permanent damage, and other stuff, but it was still probably the most defining 3 years plus of my life.
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