delta6actual
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Post by delta6actual on Apr 14, 2008 13:56:46 GMT 9
I have another question for those who might know. How much of a forward view did the pilot have? It seems that the windscreen (as you know, divided by a huge frame) was almost completely packed with equipment. I have seen in diagrams that there was also a gunsight mounted, but where? Was it off center or did it look through some sort of periscope? Earlier models were also equipped with some sort of optical sight for the Genie. Does anyone have any pics of what this looked like. Sorry if I have too many questions. They retired these birds when I was in 6th grade. I never worked on them, sat in one, or even saw one fly. I am just really interested in them.
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Post by Mark O on Apr 14, 2008 14:11:26 GMT 9
IEarlier models were also equipped with some sort of optical sight for the Genie. Does anyone have any pics of what this looked like. Sorry if I have too many questions. They retired these birds when I was in 6th grade. I never worked on them, sat in one, or even saw one fly. I am just really interested in them. Check these photos out here for how "busy" the cockpit was. I've sat in a Six (never flew one) and from my perspective the view was fine. That's what the vision splitter was for. Welcome to the site BTW! There are guys here that can give you much better answers then me! Mark www.mcchordairmuseum.org/REV%20B%20MAM%20RESTORATION%20FIX%20A%20SIX.htm
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Post by pat perry on Apr 14, 2008 21:38:07 GMT 9
I have another question for those who might know. How much of a forward view did the pilot have? It seems that the windscreen (as you know, divided by a huge frame) was almost completely packed with equipment. I have seen in diagrams that there was also a gunsight mounted, but where? Was it off center or did it look through some sort of periscope? Earlier models were also equipped with some sort of optical sight for the Genie. Does anyone have any pics of what this looked like. Sorry if I have too many questions. They retired these birds when I was in 6th grade. I never worked on them, sat in one, or even saw one fly. I am just really interested in them. Hi D6A, Don't know what part of the world you live in but go here on May 25, 2008 (Open Cockpit Day)and you can sit in a F-106 and see the view for yourself. Ralph Robledo will be there and give you the grand tour of the F-102 and F-106. www.elite.net/castle-air/Pat Perry 456th FIS
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delta6actual
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Post by delta6actual on Apr 15, 2008 3:02:10 GMT 9
Thanks for writing back guys. Unfortunately I live in Chicago, and I work weekends. I think I was born in the wrong city because there is very little of interest military aviation-wise in the Chicagoland area. Nice to hear that some places have open cockpit day. I might make plans in the future for something like that. I got to sit in a phantom cockpit at Oshkosh, that was plenty cool.
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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on Apr 16, 2008 5:21:11 GMT 9
I spent many an hour in the cockpit as an Avionics weenie. To me it was actually a nice fit once I new where everything was. The fuse panel was a bit hard of a stretch back to the left. On view forward it was not bad. I had no issues taxiing the SIX as far as visibility. It took a bit to get used to the nosegear being under you and not forward in turns (Kinda like driving a cabover bus or truck). In flight I am not sure as if I was on board it was a B's rear seat. I did sense that the AC had some forward downward visiblity issues on approach due to the nose high attitude for landing, but leaning to the side a bit seemed to help. I do know with tail draggers small and large, visiblity down and forward on the ground taxiing could be an issue. Hehehe, now that is not an issue in a 130. (Nudge, nudge Mark! ) AJ
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Post by Mark O on Apr 16, 2008 9:34:43 GMT 9
... leaning to the side a bit seemed to help. I do know with tail draggers small and large, visiblity down and forward on the ground taxiing could be an issue. Hehehe, now that is not an issue in a 130. (Nudge, nudge Mark! ) AJ Ha Ha!! I can't see crap-ola from my view!! Just enough to tell the pilot guys if they are centered up. I literally sit right over the nose gear so that helps a lot. In fact, when we are lining up for assault landings or taxiing into a spot I usually just volunteer our centerline position. I can call go-arounds just like any other crew member can. Seriously, my worse view is to the sides because I sit so far back. I have to get out of the seat and usually go to the left window and the nav goes to the right for an extra set of eyes. For just general views while flying, obviously my normal view is about 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock. We all have eyes out when we get a traffic advisory though! Mark
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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on Apr 16, 2008 9:49:17 GMT 9
Mark assualt landings are like bungie jumping. You hope the hell the cord catches at the last minute. It is especially hairy if you are in the right seat for your first. ;D Trust me you have no issue with downward ground observations!
AJ
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Post by az09 on May 6, 2008 5:25:49 GMT 9
1966 to 1968 - Dyess AFB, Tx - C-130's practicing assault landings and low level extractions.
As we young troops got emerced into the active air force at Dyess we could sometimes watch the "Herky Bird" crews do their thing over on the assault landing strip. We engine guys would "sweat" the landings because of the giant red cloud of dirt they would blow forward when the pilot would select Prop Reverse. They seemed to stop on a dime, but would have to visit the wash rack to clean up planes afterwards.
They had pallets of old jeeps for dropping at more than low levels. By design the cargo pallet was to be pulled out the rear, swing up and back and land flat sliding down the drop zone. Many a day we would see the pallet swing up and smack nose first into the red Texas dirt. The comments were the same, "well one jeep for sale - CHEAP" Other times the jeep would swing past the arc and smack down on its rear.
One day they did a JATO take-off for the local troops. We always enjoyed the pilots and crews training for war. It was our own validation for the jobs we were doing. The private air show was nice to watch.
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