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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on Aug 29, 2007 3:36:26 GMT 9
I mentioned elsewhere working on the T-Bird (T-33) at Loring. As I recall ADC Six units had at least two in the family on the bases. To me we say little about the aircraft or especially the Crew Chiefs. They were part of the FIS's familly too. It's funny to me, but I recall most of the tail numbers of the Sixes from Loring and The Griff, but I'll be damned if I can remember the T-birds tail numbers. It's kinda really embarrassing in that I got a few rides in them at Loring. The bird surprised me in flight with its agility and ease of handling... nice machine. The pilot tried like hell to make me . I didn't. There was no way in hell I was going to clean the cockpit. How about including them in the Dart club here. Anybody remember their unit's T-33 tail numbers? T-Bird guys speak up. Want a bit more on T-33s here's some links: T-33 vids www.youtube.com/results?search_query=t-33About the inventory of them aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/specs/lockheed/t-33a.htmaeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/locator/manufact/lockheed/t-33.htmHeres some pics: Not sure where or when this is, but there are some old airframes in the back left. (EDIT - the more I look at it the more I swear its at The Griff. Hangars and tower look pretty close. Ramp parking behind the T-Bird is questionable.) Front seat: Back seat courtesy USAF AJ - Da Ole Guy
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Post by Lee Nellist on Aug 29, 2007 4:58:33 GMT 9
You bet I remember the tail numbers. 765, 604, 586. I scheduled them along with the 106's for five years and incidentally, I remember all the tail numbers of those years I scheduled in the 87th.
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Post by lindel on Aug 29, 2007 7:58:57 GMT 9
Sure looks like the Griff to me, those are/were the 49th maintenance hangers just to the right of the 33.
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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on Aug 29, 2007 8:29:26 GMT 9
Thought so Lindel. Come how about a Griff T-33 CC IDing the ship.
AJ - Da Ole Guy
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Post by lindel on Aug 29, 2007 8:56:22 GMT 9
I never saw the T-33's much, maybe once every couple of months. Of course I was at the other end of the world...
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Post by Jim on Aug 29, 2007 12:44:36 GMT 9
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Post by lindel on Aug 29, 2007 19:47:27 GMT 9
It's entirely possible that it's not the Griff. That sorta looks like a steam plant in the background, about where the joker pods would've been. I haven't come across the pictures I've got in storage yet, and I'm not sure I've got any pictures of the hangers anyway.
Most of the pictures that I have (if they've even survived) were of take offs at dusk/night. Better to see the diamonds in the AB.
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Post by Jim on Aug 29, 2007 22:51:14 GMT 9
Most of the pictures that I have (if they've even survived) were of take offs at dusk/night. Better to see the diamonds in the AB. The base could be Duluth with a steam plant, I remember seeing steam plumes all over the place.....Griffis was heated with nat gas.........................The Old Sarge...........BTW, dig out those pics we like seeing those diamonds too
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Post by sixerviper on Aug 30, 2007 3:12:41 GMT 9
At Duluth: 506, 586, 786, 765. Had a T-29, 541: had a bad engine for low torque pressure, nobody believed me when I said after six gauges, four or five wiring troubleshootings and umpty-ump transmitter changes that the engine was bad. Opened my big mouth, told them what I thought of them and their orginization and got orders to Minot. Hee, hee!! Flew in 506--good jet! At Minot--all I remember was 58-0616
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Post by sixerviper on Aug 30, 2007 3:13:38 GMT 9
BTW, the recips in the background look to me like B-50s. Tail's too tall to be B-29s.
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Post by lindel on Aug 30, 2007 8:55:25 GMT 9
As I find them, I'll scan and post. I'm just hoping they're still in good shape.
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Post by marv2 on Aug 30, 2007 11:20:17 GMT 9
At Minot--all I remember was 58-0616 SixerViper, Pix at of 616 at dakotaterritoryairmuseum.com/finalgallarypics/57ta.jpgThe others from 1974 (when I got there as a 3 level fresh from Chanute) on were 58?-610, 57-590 (now at Ellsworth AFB on display, and another one we got and I can't remember that tail number. Doing goggle searches I found this www.hill.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=5692As a 32571 that was there when the F-106's left myself and a 5 level went to the T-Bird flight and worked the buckets. We did that until they were sent away. I was NCOIC of dayshift, the 5 level Marita Burgess was on nights and was an assist DCC on one of the jets if my memory is close. We had a comm guy and a nav guy also that came from avionics. The other specialist was an engine guy. Marvin Johnson Instruments at Minot 74 - 78, 79 - 80, 81 - 86, Kinglsey Field Det 1 78 - 79 and 80 - 81
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Post by bp on Sept 9, 2007 9:14:03 GMT 9
I remember a T-bird that visited Minot from the Montana Guard some time in 1981 I think. The pilot fired it up and the engine didn't sound right. He took off and started to bank away from the runway and nosed over and crashed. That's the only crash I've witnessed. The pilot ejected only to have his recovery chute open on impact. He survived for about 3 days. Very sad day. On a happier note I remember how much fun it was to reload those @#$%^ chaff pods!!!
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Post by Bullhunter on Sept 10, 2007 1:40:59 GMT 9
T-Bird inflight over Washington State. Photo from MCChord Air Museum Files Collection of G. Price T-Bird's on McChord's Flightline - It one time I believe we had 5 of them. For an engine troop like myself we had very little work on them. The crewchief's were all old civilian's and kept them in great shape. All engine shop ever did that I can remember was pull the turbine buckets and send them to the NDI shop for inspection for cracks. I beleive in 3 1/2 years I worked on them just 3 times (fuel leak & oil leakage stuff) except for doing the turbine bucket inspections during ISO. Very good little aircraft and I went on many a flight in them. Can post inflight pic's if anyone intrested.
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Post by wallyja1 on Sept 21, 2007 9:53:23 GMT 9
yes I was there at loring afb and the two hangers you see in the top photo were the alert hangers that went right too the main runway. I pulled alert duty there in 1971, I was a crewchief on the t-33's and later for the f-106 when th 27thfis was there, later it became the 83rd fis. :yellowbeer: :yellowbeer:
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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on Sept 21, 2007 10:17:57 GMT 9
wallja1 I don't think thats Loring looking at this image of the 27th. The alert facility didn't have a tower building as I recall. Wally did you happen to know Jerry Lau crewing a SIX? Da Ole Guy
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Post by wallyja1 on Sept 22, 2007 9:07:31 GMT 9
Hello , I don't remember him. that picture looks similar to loring afb, but the alert hangar did have a small tower for observation and it was for the alert crew to stay in.
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Post by jesup on Dec 26, 2008 3:45:02 GMT 9
I don't believe the t-33 is at Griffiss because the hanger roofs would be almost flat and the old tower was between the two hangers. I was there from 56-59. most of the time in the 465th and finished up in the 49th.
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Post by Jim on Dec 26, 2008 10:14:48 GMT 9
The Old Freican Du (Bat sqdn)..............Your right it isn't Griffiss...... It is Loring...............The Old Sarge
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Post by Gene on Dec 26, 2008 12:21:11 GMT 9
T-Bird inflight over Washington State. Photo from MCChord Air Museum Files T-Bird's on McChord's Flightline - It one time I believe we had 5 of them. For an engine troop like myself we had very little work on them. The crewchief's were all old civilian's and kept them in great shape. All engine shop ever did that I can remember was pull the turbine buckets and send them to the NDI shop for inspection for cracks. I beleive in 3 1/2 years I worked on them just 3 times (fuel leak & oil leakage stuff) except for doing the turbine bucket inspections during ISO. Very good little aircraft and I went on many a flight in them. Can post inflight pic's if anyone intrested. this is mcchords echo ramp 1976, you'll notice the t-birds at the far end of the ramp. these were all the birds. it was done at the cc's request. i shot it from the top of the alert barn w/ a 21/4X23/4 format in b&w only. a while later one of the t birds augered in a stream in a little town called elma, kiling 2.
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