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Post by delta2477a on Jun 15, 2007 6:46:32 GMT 9
What is the DEW line radar? I heard it mentioned in a post.
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Post by Diamondback on Jun 15, 2007 6:57:23 GMT 9
Distant Early Warning, kinda like an outer radar "tripwire" for ICBMs and bombers, IIRC.
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Post by delta2477a on Jun 15, 2007 11:50:02 GMT 9
Oh, okay
That brings another question... If a russian ICBM was launched over the pole and was picked up by the DEW line and a US Interceptor plane was scrambled from Texas, and intercepted it around the Canadian border, how fast would it have been flying at it's quickest?
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Post by Diamondback on Jun 15, 2007 12:36:02 GMT 9
Problem is, you have to hit the ICBM in the "boost" or "warhead bus" phases, hitting an individual warhead on reentry with '60s tech's rather unlikely.
Oh, BTW, you better be ready to eject, 'cause that nuke's gonna pop an EMP if it goes off when you hit it... instantly resetting the clocks to Stone Age time, too.
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Post by Bullhunter on Jun 15, 2007 13:17:22 GMT 9
Yep, EMP is a big threat to the nation. A nuke blast overhead at the correct altitude would put the hurts to us. Just watched a special about it on TV the other night. Scary.
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Post by Black Bart on Jun 15, 2007 23:55:34 GMT 9
The DEW line and BMEWS can give at best about 20 minutes warning. There is no way that any fighter launched from Texas could do the intercept, prior to the re-entry phase.
Now what is going to be tested is setting F-15s on alert in the old ADC barns across the boarders. They will have an advanced RADAR/Data Link and 2 advanced Patriot missiles to take a warhead out prior to re-entry.
There was an early project that was canceled. The project was to use 48th A/C and position them over the Atlantic to shoot down Spy Satellites with a Phoenix missile and an advanced Radar/Data Link system, while doing a snap-up. Remember the Phoenix had a 100 mile range. At 100 miles the Phoenix would snap to high altitude and steer by data-link. At around 50 mile, it would lock on to the target and hit it from above.
The F-15/Patriot project would be similar, only the Patriot would zero on the target.
If successful, it may be enough to rebuild the stored F-14Ds, that could carry 4 Patriots. Black Bart
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Post by delta2477a on Jun 18, 2007 13:48:04 GMT 9
Could an F-12 have made such an intercept Black Bart?
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Post by Black Bart on Jun 19, 2007 5:04:36 GMT 9
Not from Texas!
As indicated previously, stashed in existing Alert Barns with the F-12 using advanced RADAR/Two way Data Link with an upgraded Phoenix, maybe.
But how long do you sit on alert in a pressure suit?
Then the F-12 leaked fuel like its sister the SR-71, so it would take off, make a speed run to seal itself and hit a prepositioned tanker.
Not a real brilliant plan to intercept a bomber, much less a missile.
Remember the F-14B could down a cruise missile. Black Bart
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Post by Black Bart on Jun 20, 2007 5:40:16 GMT 9
Delta, by advanced radar, I'm referring to a similar system to the F-22.
A known fact about the F-22, is that the wing man is often a trailer by 30 or 40 miles. The F-22 has a Planar Array antenna. It does not move. The lead flies to the target in radio silence, but can see what the trailer sees by Data-Link. Since the lead knows where the trailer is and the trailer knows where the lead is and the target, the lead can get into firing position without using his radar. Using an AMRAM, the missile head is prepositioned and range calibrated, so the missile will see and track the target on launch with a kill and the lead A/C radar was never turned on.
An interesting thing is that the F-22 can lock on and track with one port while the rest stay in search mode. Very confusing to the target!
This similar technology could be used from the warning system to the F-15 and Patriot to make the kill. Also the Navy Aegis System is being deployed, both on a Missile Cruiser and movable platforms to do the spotting.
Spooky isn't it and no secret. No big thing. Black Bart from Hampton Roads (Langley AFB and Norfolk Naval Base)
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