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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2007 6:26:01 GMT 9
New member: was a military pilot, but flew UH-1's in the Army.
Anyway, I was out to lunch in Aurora CO today, heard a jet go over, looked up and saw a delta wing, single engine, white jet, headed east to west. Appeared to have some gray things hanging under the wings, and maybe under the fuselage. Was not at very high altitude, so possibly flying out of Buckley AFB.
Based on some internet research I am pretty sure it was a 106.
Is that possible? Are any of them still flying?
If not, what do you think I saw?
Thanks in advance.
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Post by Jim on Jan 23, 2007 12:00:37 GMT 9
SAY HEY, Dustoff For ye and welcome into our hangar and onto our flight line, you will find, naow that ye be a joining us that we are the foinest bunch o' arplane people there be...My foine lad, it makes no difference if your wing goes in a circle Side note- many years ago, I traded a 450 gal RF101 drop tank for a ride in a Huey- at night- MAN when I squeezed the trrigger on that gun, I damned near crap my pants when those tracers lit up. It was the air cav out that was based at Tan San Nhut... They painted that tank black and used it as a solar heater for taking showers...... F-106- who knows what clandestine things go on any more- you could be right- or the Twilight Zone is back....A tip o' me foine fatique cap and I be a welcoming ye back..... The Old Sarge
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2007 8:16:24 GMT 9
Appreciate the welcome. I never to got to fire anything from my Huey: my only defense was the red crosses painted on the nose and side.
I did get some target practice once in a Cobra, and that was fun.
Still wondering what I saw earlier this week. The more picutres I look at, the more convinced I am that it was a 102 or 106. Still think it was a 106.
Don't see how that's possible, though.
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Post by Jim on Jan 27, 2007 8:40:58 GMT 9
::)say hey, Dustoff, do you suppose that Rod Sterling is still alive? ?I would not really bet against it being a six- although it might have to be one that our CHIEF O'THE FACTS, Erv Smalley might have missed in his running talley. Maybe a french Mystiere, as it was a delta wing and the uintake location would make it resemble a Six in a silhoute- especially from below......BTW that night i played gunner, we escorted a DUSTOFF in to make a pickup............Those red crosses did not resemble armour plate.....No thanks.... an a tip o me foine fatique cap..... The Old Sarge
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Post by pat perry on Jan 27, 2007 9:10:51 GMT 9
Appreciate the welcome. I never to got to fire anything from my Huey: my only defense was the red crosses painted on the nose and side. I did get some target practice once in a Cobra, and that was fun. Still wondering what I saw earlier this week. The more picutres I look at, the more convinced I am that it was a 102 or 106. Still think it was a 106. Don't see how that's possible, though. Hi Dustoff, Welcome to the forum! Check this page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_wingThe delta wing you saw could have been one of several foreign fighters. Scroll down the page and click on the various fighter names and see if anything looks familiar. My guess it was a Dassault Mirage or Saab Viggen or Gripen. These have appeared in the US from time to time and have been thought to be F-106s. I doubt very much you saw a F-102 or F-106. If there were any still flying it would have made a big news item on this site for sure! Thanks, Pat Perry 456th FIS 66-68
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Post by MOW on Jan 27, 2007 15:12:25 GMT 9
Appreciate the welcome. I never to got to fire anything from my Huey: my only defense was the red crosses painted on the nose and side. I did get some target practice once in a Cobra, and that was fun. Still wondering what I saw earlier this week. The more picutres I look at, the more convinced I am that it was a 102 or 106. Still think it was a 106. Don't see how that's possible, though. Hi Dustoff, Welcome to the forum! Check this page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_wingThe delta wing you saw could have been one of several foreign fighters. Scroll down the page and click on the various fighter names and see if anything looks familiar. My guess it was a Dassault Mirage or Saab Viggen or Gripen. These have appeared in the US from time to time and have been thought to be F-106s. I doubt very much you saw a F-102 or F-106. If there were any still flying it would have made a big news item on this site for sure! Thanks, Pat Perry 456th FIS 66-68 Yes, it would have been big news by now. Since we seem to have all the airframes accounted for however, I go with Jim's Twilight Zone theory. Would that be cool or what?
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Post by ma1marv on Jan 28, 2007 9:45:52 GMT 9
Well I'll sign in for a minute! I would suspect it was a F-16 "E" model flying out of Hill AFB or Edwards, or where ever they are located today. They do look very similar to the "6' in flight and are a single engine. Also they have the ability to carry a "LOT!" of junk/weapons under the wings! ;D If thats not the case, then "What kind of Beer were you drinking???" Cause I want some! MArv
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2007 3:55:19 GMT 9
Well, they do fly F-16's out of Buckley, but it didn't look like one to me.
Still, one fixed wing aircraft looks just like the rest, to us rotorheads!
Also, Buckley is a common mid-continent refueling location for aircraft transiting the US, so could have been one of those foreign deals.
This will have to remain a mystery, I guess
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Post by Cougar on Jan 30, 2007 17:22:29 GMT 9
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Post by pat perry on Jan 31, 2007 3:40:21 GMT 9
The NASA photo gallery URL below may provide a clue as to what you may or may not have seen in the skys over Colorado. Scroll down to the F-16 XL; both acft are delta wing versions, both acft were painted white on the underside. www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/index.html Hey Cougar, I can see where this aircraft could look like a six - it's a pretty good looking aircraft! www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/F-16XL1/HTML/index.htmlHere's the narrative from the URL above: NASA's single-seat F-16XL (ship #1), tail number 849, is stationed at Dryden Flight Research Center, Edwards, California. It arrived at Dryden on March 10, 1989, from General Dynamics in Fort Worth, TX. The aircraft was most recently used in the Cranked-Arrow Wing Aerodynamics Project (CAWAP) to test boundary layer pressures and distribution. The modified airplane featured a delta "cranked-arrow" wing with strips of tubing along the leading edge to the trailing edge to sense static on the wing and obtain pressure distribution data. The right wing received data on pressure distribution and the left wing had three types of instrumentation - preston tubes to measure local skin friction, boundary layer rakes to measure boundary layer profiles (the layer where the air interacts with the surfaces of a moving aircraft), and hot films to determine boundary layer transition locations. The first flight of CAWAP occurred on November 21, 1995, and the test program ended in April 1996. Previously, the aircraft was used in a program to investigate the characteristics of sonic booms for NASA's High Speed Research Program. During the series of sonic boom research flights, the F-16XL was used to probe the shock waves being generated by a NASA SR-71 and record their shape and intensity. Data from the program could be used in the development of a high speed civilian transport. The F-16XL aircraft were built by General Dynamics Corp. as prototypes for a derivative fighter evaluation program conducted by the Air Force between 1982 and 1985. The aircraft were developed from basic F-16 airframes. The most notable difference is the delta (cranked arrow) wing which give the aircraft a greater range because of increased fuel capacity in the wing tanks, and a larger load capability due to increased wing area. The single-seat F-16XL aircraft is powered by a Pratt and Whitney 100-PW-100 engine (with afterburner), rated at 23,830 pounds thrust, and features an analog fly-by-wire electronic flight control system. The delta (cranked arrow) wings on both aircraft provide strength for high wing loads during flight. The aircraft's dimensions are; length, 54.2 feet (16.52 m); wingspan, 34.3 feet (10.45 m); height at vertical tail, 17.7 feet (5.39 m). The aircrafts maximum weight is 48,000 pounds (17915.60 kg), has a design load of 9 "Gs" (In the research configuration, 3 "Gs"), and has a top design speed Mach 1.8. Thanks, Pat Perry 456th FIS 66-68
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