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Post by Mark O on Feb 5, 2024 11:55:40 GMT 9
Found this on eBay -- no, I did not buy it -- but thought it was a cool photo. No information on the listing on the date, or location, but I'm positive it is from Oct, 1966 as there is a b/w photo from almost the same perspective on the 5th FIS page here on the main site. Notice all the ordinance in the background. I don't ever recall seeing displays like that at any airshow/open house that I ever attended. Kind of cool actually!
Enjoy!
Mark O
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Post by LBer1568 on Feb 5, 2024 23:16:37 GMT 9
The missiles/bombs in background are not ordnance the six carried though. Most of the Air Show Displays I've seen in distant past would show typical load off the left side of Aircraft, or like in this photo, loaded with bay doors open. Ever notice we call it the "Bay" doors and not Bomb Bay doors. I don't remember if any other century series fighters (F-102/F-106) had "Bays". The F-101 had a rotary rack.
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Post by Mark O on Feb 7, 2024 8:59:03 GMT 9
The missiles/bombs in background are not ordnance the six carried though. Most of the Air Show Displays I've seen in distant past would show typical load off the left side of Aircraft, or like in this photo, loaded with bay doors open. Ever notice we call it the "Bay" doors and not Bomb Bay doors. I don't remember if any other century series fighters (F-102/F-106) had "Bays". The F-101 had a rotary rack. Oh, of course. I realize what they are (and are not). Still, I never saw weapon displays like that even in late 70/early 80s when I started going to airshows. The F-105 was built with an enclosed bomb bay -- if that counts -- although by the time it was used in Vietnam they used the space for an additional fuel tank. Off the top of my head I guess the closest enclosed 'bays' on other, non-Century Series aircraft would be the extendable, rocket tray on the F-86D, and the wingtip-mounted pods on the F-89. (Rockets on D-models, and missiles on H-models.)
And now, everything old is new again with the F-22, and F-35 both having bays for their missiles (and other ordinance.) The F-117 just carried bombs internally.
Then again, there is this... Mark O
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Post by Diamondback on Feb 7, 2024 12:21:21 GMT 9
The missiles/bombs in background are not ordnance the six carried though. Most of the Air Show Displays I've seen in distant past would show typical load off the left side of Aircraft, or like in this photo, loaded with bay doors open. Ever notice we call it the "Bay" doors and not Bomb Bay doors. I don't remember if any other century series fighters (F-102/F-106) had "Bays". The F-101 had a rotary rack. Oh, of course. I realize what they are (and are not). Still, I never saw weapon displays like that even in late 70/early 80s when I started going to airshows. The F-105 was built with an enclosed bomb bay -- if that counts -- although by the time it was used in Vietnam they used the space for an additional fuel tank. Off the top of my head I guess the closest enclosed 'bays' on other, non-Century Series aircraft would be the extendable, rocket tray on the F-86D, and the wingtip-mounted pods on the F-89. (Rockets on D-models, and missiles on H-models.)
If I recall correctly, F-94 Starfire (basically a bigger faster T-33) had a rocket pod at the midpoint of each wing plus a ring of 'em around the nose.
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Post by LBer1568 on Feb 7, 2024 23:42:30 GMT 9
I remember Gen Agan when he would visit Tyndall AFB. After he became ADC Cmd. I had left Osan before this happened. I stayed about 3 weeks with 48 as I had deployed a couple weeks after 318. We were just mobility augmentees. And yes a 189 day TDY meant just that. Never going past that mark as it would cound as short tour and not just a TDY. The XB-106 at Osan was just one of many things that were hung on a pylon of the six. I remember we tested an anti-satellite missile on it for a few months. We never tested it as it would have had to undergo a large amount of engineering studies and weapons safety/release testing. The program finally was tested a decade or more later on F-15 and was deemed successful. The F-15 did a max speed pop-up and just before the apex of climb launched it. We did similar tests at Tyndall against Bomarc's with MB-1 launces.
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Post by Diamondback on Feb 8, 2024 2:20:03 GMT 9
I remember Gen Agan when he would visit Tyndall AFB. After he became ADC Cmd. I had left Osan before this happened. I stayed about 3 weeks with 48 as I had deployed a couple weeks after 318. We were just mobility augmentees. And yes a 189 day TDY meant just that. Never going past that mark as it would cound as short tour and not just a TDY. The XB-106 at Osan was just one of many things that were hung on a pylon of the six. I remember we tested an anti-satellite missile on it for a few months. We never tested it as it would have had to undergo a large amount of engineering studies and weapons safety/release testing. The program finally was tested a decade or more later on F-15 and was deemed successful. The F-15 did a max speed pop-up and just before the apex of climb launched it. We did similar tests at Tyndall against Bomarc's with MB-1 launces. If memory serves Project Spike went to captive-carry flight testing, and ASM-135 ASAT the missile actually took control of the plane and steered to launch point by itself soon after takeoff. In a nutshell the pilot was only there to get the F-15 off the ground and get it home again post-launch.
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