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Post by Marvin Pine on Feb 21, 2023 11:22:10 GMT 9
A couple of days ago I was watching the first episode of the old T.V. show Sea Hunt and was surprised to see footage of the Y4F Sea Dart, Convair's amphibian aircraft developed in parallel with the 106. The show called the plane F-109X and had it flying mach 2 before crashing on landing at sea, but it was interesting to see the footage of a very rare aircraft.
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Post by pat perry on Feb 22, 2023 1:03:12 GMT 9
A couple of days ago I was watching the first episode of the old T.V. show Sea Hunt and was surprised to see footage of the Y4F Sea Dart, Convair's amphibian aircraft developed in parallel with the 106. The show called the plane F-109X and had it flying mach 2 before crashing on landing at sea, but it was interesting to see the footage of a very rare aircraft.
Here's some more historical info on the Convair Sea Dart.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F2Y_Sea_Dart
Thanks,
Pat P.
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Post by Diamondback on Feb 22, 2023 1:41:07 GMT 9
Say what ya will about the Navy, they had some interesting ideas with the "Sea Base" concept around that time using island harbors and lagoons as forward bases for seaplane fighters and bombers using submarines and flying-boat transports for supply.
IIRC Sea Dart's main problem was between too late for its time and lack of sufficiently powerful engine; similarly Martin's companion P6M Seamaster bomber was an impressive technical achievement but plagued by development difficulties.
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Post by pat perry on Feb 22, 2023 7:52:02 GMT 9
Say what ya will about the Navy, they had some interesting ideas with the "Sea Base" concept around that time using island harbors and lagoons as forward bases for seaplane fighters and bombers using submarines and flying-boat transports for supply. IIRC Sea Dart's main problem was between too late for its time and lack of sufficiently powerful engine; similarly Martin's companion P6M Seamaster bomber was an impressive technical achievement but plagued by development difficulties.
www.tapatalk.com/groups/warships1discussionboards/was-sea-dart-ever-really-good-enough-t9268.html
The post was made by Jim WH on April 19,2009 #4
I still don't know what IIRC means. The Internet has become so full of acronyms that most of us have to research to find the context and meaning of a post topic.
The Navy has been very ambitious with great success on Boomer & Hunter Killer submarines and the latest Aircraft Carriers.
It would be very helpful for you to provide a link to your source of information.
Thanks,
Pat P.
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Post by Diamondback on Feb 22, 2023 10:01:05 GMT 9
Pat, IIRC = If I Recall (or Remember) Correctly.  Source on that one was an article I read in an aviation history mag back in college, but that was twenty years ago so there's a lot of fog there and I don't even remember the mag title never mind issue or article. (One of the hazards of a lifetime dedicated to hoovering up as much raw information as possible like a walking data-warehouse, sometimes--even too frequently--the "books in your mental library" get jumbled or mis-shelved.) I think Wikipedia had some mentions of it on their pages for the Sea Dart, the P6M and the R3Y Tradewind which were the cornerstones of the concept. (Bit of a seaplane/flying boat nerd here, though my big love fair was the classic triple-tailed Pan Am Boeing 314's that never really got the chance to show their stuff because the War cut their revenue-service careers short.) "Underpowered" was a common problem among the early-generation jets, particularly Navy ones ruggedized for carrier operations--the F7U Cutlass started out weak, and after a series of crackups the added structural reinforcements' weight so further exacerbated the problem the bird got nicknamed "Gutless." |
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Post by LBer1568 on Mar 19, 2024 23:06:59 GMT 9
"if I remember correctly."
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Source on that one was an article I read in an aviation history mag back in college, but that was twenty years ago so there's a lot of fog there and I don't even remember the mag title never mind issue or article. (One of the hazards of a lifetime dedicated to hoovering up as much raw information as possible like a walking data-warehouse, sometimes--even too frequently--the "books in your mental library" get jumbled or mis-shelved.) I think Wikipedia had some mentions of it on their pages for the Sea Dart, the P6M and the R3Y Tradewind which were the cornerstones of the concept. (Bit of a seaplane/flying boat nerd here, though my big love fair was the classic triple-tailed Pan Am Boeing 314's that never really got the chance to show their stuff because the War cut their revenue-service careers short.)
