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Post by shadowgunner on Jul 15, 2016 11:11:22 GMT 9
While doing research I have encountered mention of 2 F-106 projects. First one, the F-106-30, was apparently a 1958 "idea" of an enlarged F-106, powered by two underwing J93's. It had a horizontal stab and was intended to carry 2ea AIM-47's internally. The other was a trial of the F-106 carrying 2 AIM-26's; one on each of the pylons used for the Seekbat tests. Anyone have any further info or drawings?
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Post by Jim on Jul 15, 2016 14:09:03 GMT 9
While doing research I have encountered mention of 2 F-106 projects. First one, the F-106-30, was apparently a 1958 "idea" of an enlarged F-106, powered by two underwing J93's. It had a horizontal stab and was intended to carry 2ea AIM-47's internally. The other was a trial of the F-106 carrying 2 AIM-26's; one on each of the pylons used for the Seekbat tests. Anyone have any further info or drawings? Where you been???
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Post by LBer1568 on Jul 15, 2016 22:51:28 GMT 9
While doing research I have encountered mention of 2 F-106 projects. First one, the F-106-30, was apparently a 1958 "idea" of an enlarged F-106, powered by two underwing J93's. It had a horizontal stab and was intended to carry 2ea AIM-47's internally. The other was a trial of the F-106 carrying 2 AIM-26's; one on each of the pylons used for the Seekbat tests. Anyone have any further info or drawings? While stationed at Tyndall from 1967-1971 we had two F-106's in a test program. 795 was the A model and we also had a B model. 795 was used for many "test" projects. The most famous was the belly gun, but it had tons of other test fittings. During the gun prototype they also tried one on both sides of fuselage at wing root. They built fiberglass "pods" and flew a few times. We also did the first IR boresight mod and also the lock IR to RADAR mods. But the best looking mod was when they took off the fuel tanks and mounted bomb pylons and flew 500# lead bombs. I don't believe they ever released them but flew several missions with them attached. They also had a big photo shoot with many VIP visitors present to see the FB-106...lol.
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Post by pat perry on Jul 15, 2016 22:52:49 GMT 9
While doing research I have encountered mention of 2 F-106 projects. First one, the F-106-30, was apparently a 1958 "idea" of an enlarged F-106, powered by two underwing J93's. It had a horizontal stab and was intended to carry 2ea AIM-47's internally. The other was a trial of the F-106 carrying 2 AIM-26's; one on each of the pylons used for the Seekbat tests. Anyone have any further info or drawings?
Here's the only Google reference I found to F-106-30. www.aircraftplans.info/f-106.html
Here's what's on the main F-106 site for underslung engines on wings testing. www.f-106deltadart.com/nasa_airbreathing_propulsion_research.htm Doesn't mention any possible future application like the F-106-30.
Here's link on the GAR-11, redesignated AIM-26A in 1963. ausairpower.net/Falcon-Evolution.html Lots of info on this site
Excerpt: Convair F-106A Weapon: AIM-26 Carriage: in the 1970s the F-106 trialed the AIM-26, with the missile being carried underwing using the same pylons developed for the Seekbat AAM trials. This program involved the use of helmet-mounted sights, and consisted of both captive carry flights and target drone engagements. The USAF did not adopt this configuration for service.
This is related to Seekbat testing en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-97_Seekbat
Pat P
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Post by pat perry on Jul 15, 2016 23:09:56 GMT 9
While doing research I have encountered mention of 2 F-106 projects. First one, the F-106-30, was apparently a 1958 "idea" of an enlarged F-106, powered by two underwing J93's. It had a horizontal stab and was intended to carry 2ea AIM-47's internally. The other was a trial of the F-106 carrying 2 AIM-26's; one on each of the pylons used for the Seekbat tests. Anyone have any further info or drawings? While stationed at Tyndall from 1967-1971 we had two F-106's in a test program. 795 was the A model and we also had a B model. 795 was used for many "test" projects. The most famous was the belly gun, but it had tons of other test fittings. During the gun prototype they also tried one on both sides of fuselage at wing root. They built fiberglass "pods" and flew a few times. We also did the first IR boresight mod and also the lock IR to RADAR mods. But the best looking mod was when they took off the fuel tanks and mounted bomb pylons and flew 500# lead bombs. I don't believe they ever released them but flew several missions with them attached. They also had a big photo shoot with many VIP visitors present to see the FB-106...lol.
LOL, There's a picture on the main site of dumb bombs mounted on the pylons of an F-106 when they were in Korea. www.f-106deltadart.com/piwigo/picture.php?/8202/search/289
Pat P.
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Post by shadowgunner on Jul 28, 2016 9:54:36 GMT 9
Jim;
I have been crazy busy restoring an F-8 Crusader, plus the grandkids are really taking their toll (4yrs and 1 1/2yrs) I got back into the Six world because my baby (590086) protested about the lack of attention. On a display day she said, "you have been spending all your time with that Navy thing". Then the canopy actuator failed and I couldn't close it. Now she is getting all my attention. It turns out that since our museum owns 590086, it is allowed "climb aboard" access. The Navy and AF have been heavy handed lately; disallowing "climb aboard" and "open cockpit" displays.
Our F-106 is now a "star" along side our F-4C, since both are allowed "climb aboard". My jet will be getting much more use and attention.
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Post by shadowgunner on Aug 9, 2016 10:10:24 GMT 9
I had found these images a long while ago. I believe the are similar to the description the F-106-30.
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Post by LBer1568 on Aug 10, 2016 0:35:24 GMT 9
While stationed at Tyndall from 1967-1971 we had two F-106's in a test program. 795 was the A model and we also had a B model. 795 was used for many "test" projects. The most famous was the belly gun, but it had tons of other test fittings. During the gun prototype they also tried one on both sides of fuselage at wing root. They built fiberglass "pods" and flew a few times. We also did the first IR boresight mod and also the lock IR to RADAR mods. But the best looking mod was when they took off the fuel tanks and mounted bomb pylons and flew 500# lead bombs. I don't believe they ever released them but flew several missions with them attached. They also had a big photo shoot with many VIP visitors present to see the FB-106...lol.
LOL, There's a picture on the main site of dumb bombs mounted on the pylons of an F-106 when they were in Korea. www.f-106deltadart.com/piwigo/picture.php?/8202/search/289
Pat P.
Pat, I have seen the picture from Osan. I was deployed to Osan, but before the "Picture. I wonder if they realized that it had been done before. It was done with A/C 795 at Tyndall as part of many "what if" tests.
The Test Squadron had assigned engineers from both Hughes for MA-1 and Convair for Airframe. Air Force also had several engineers assigned. They would do initial study to make sure it was safe and would get interim authorization for Test. I reviewed many MA-1 tests to help layout/breadboard test. The majority of these proved to be worthless. Anyone remember when F-106 was used for Terrian Following Radar (TFR) tests which later was basis for F-111 TFR? I remember seeing a film of one mission and talking to test pilot who flew most of the missions. The six was used as test because of delta wing, similar to F-111 in 72 degree sweep back which it flew during higher speed TFR mission. So the LOL isn't needed. Lorin
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Post by Gene on Aug 10, 2016 1:42:25 GMT 9
cool...
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Post by pat perry on Aug 10, 2016 23:16:08 GMT 9
LOL, There's a picture on the main site of dumb bombs mounted on the pylons of an F-106 when they were in Korea. www.f-106deltadart.com/piwigo/picture.php?/8202/search/289
Pat P.
Pat, I have seen the picture from Osan. I was deployed to Osan, but before the "Picture. I wonder if they realized that it had been done before. It was done with A/C 795 at Tyndall as part of many "what if" tests.
The Test Squadron had assigned engineers from both Hughes for MA-1 and Convair for Airframe. Air Force also had several engineers assigned. They would do initial study to make sure it was safe and would get interim authorization for Test. I reviewed many MA-1 tests to help layout/breadboard test. The majority of these proved to be worthless. Anyone remember when F-106 was used for Terrian Following Radar (TFR) tests which later was basis for F-111 TFR? I remember seeing a film of one mission and talking to test pilot who flew most of the missions. The six was used as test because of delta wing, similar to F-111 in 72 degree sweep back which it flew during higher speed TFR mission. So the LOL isn't needed. Lorin Lorin, I was laughing out loud at the way the Korea Sixers "punked" Gen Agan. Looks like he got a big kick out of it.
I imagine that some stuff was tried on the F-106 that we may never know about. Next year is the 60th anniversary of the 57 models. Maybe we should do something at the next All Troops F-106 Reunion that commemorates all the tests that were done beyond it's role as the Ultimate Interceptor.
Pat P.
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Post by LBer1568 on Aug 11, 2016 0:33:00 GMT 9
Lorin, I was laughing out loud at the way the Korea Sixers "punked" Gen Agan. Looks like he got a big kick out of it.
I imagine that some stuff was tried on the F-106 that we may never know about. Next year is the 60th anniversary of the 57 models. Maybe we should do something at the next All Troops F-106 Reunion that commemorates all the tests that were done beyond it's role as the Ultimate Interceptor.
Pat P. Most of the guys I know from Test Squadron are in the Flightline above now. Probably the best source of info is this forum. Lorin
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