|
|
Crashes
May 19, 2016 15:55:46 GMT 9
Post by Gene on May 19, 2016 15:55:46 GMT 9
Crew Safe After B-52 "Mishap" at Andersen
—JENNIFER HLAD AND BRIAN EVERSTINE
All seven aircrew members escaped without injuries Thursday morning after a B-52H Stratofortress was involved in a "mishap" on the flightline at Andersen AFB, Guam, according to a press release. A base spokesman told Air Force Magazine the incident was not a crash, but did not offer more details. Emergency responders rushed to the scene after the incident during a routine training mission around 8:30 a.m. local time. The B-52 is deployed to Guam from Minot AFB, N.D., as part of the continuous bomber presence in the Pacific; the airmen aboard were from the 69th Expeditionary Bomb Squadron. Officials are investigating the incident and working to mitigate any environmental impacts. It is not clear if the bomber was carrying any weapons at the time.
|
|
MOW
Administrator 
Owner/Operator
Currently: Offline
Posts: 5,822 
Location:
Joined: September 2003
Retired: USAF, Civil Service
|
Crashes
May 19, 2016 18:27:52 GMT 9
Post by MOW on May 19, 2016 18:27:52 GMT 9
|
|
|
|
Post by Gene on May 20, 2016 0:46:52 GMT 9
thank God.... it looked bad on the late news...
|
|
MOW
Administrator
Owner/Operator
Currently: Offline
Posts: 5,822
Location:
Joined: September 2003
Retired: USAF, Civil Service
|
Post by MOW on May 20, 2016 7:00:04 GMT 9
Yes it did create big fire, but luckily not before the crew got out
|
|
|
|
Crashes
Sept 20, 2016 2:35:34 GMT 9
Post by Gene on Sept 20, 2016 2:35:34 GMT 9
 I don't get the fatigue part... |
|
|
|
Crashes
Sept 20, 2016 4:50:48 GMT 9
Post by pat perry on Sept 20, 2016 4:50:48 GMT 9
I don't get the fatigue part... Maybe airframe fatigue from high G loads.
Pat P
|
|
|
|
Crashes
Sept 20, 2016 5:12:48 GMT 9
Post by pat perry on Sept 20, 2016 5:12:48 GMT 9
|
|
|
|
Crashes
Sept 20, 2016 7:23:07 GMT 9
Post by Jim on Sept 20, 2016 7:23:07 GMT 9
Sorry for the loss of life, however, if any of you ever thought young (2Lt. through brand new Capt.) AF fighter pilots had an attitude, you were never around young Navy and Marine fighter pilots. They didn't mention the blood alcohol content, nor how many hours sleep he didn't have. Over abundance of the former and a negative amount of the other coupled with diluted oxygen, high G pull out and hard tight turns (again high G loads) will have the same effect and affect as what would be called Fatigue. Crash is another name for blunt force trauma, failure to control aircraft was the cause of blunt force trauma. Tired of sugar coating turds and calling it candy.
|
|
|
|
Crashes
Sept 22, 2016 0:39:20 GMT 9
Post by Gene on Sept 22, 2016 0:39:20 GMT 9
im pretty sure in this 'new' world alcohol was not a factor...back in the '70's i could see it...but today everybody is health conscience and so on...
|
|
|
|
Crashes
Sept 22, 2016 0:56:09 GMT 9
Post by Gene on Sept 22, 2016 0:56:09 GMT 9
 saw a U 2 on display in Cal. |
|
|
|
Crashes
Sept 22, 2016 7:19:57 GMT 9
Post by Jim on Sept 22, 2016 7:19:57 GMT 9
im pretty sure in this 'new' world alcohol was not a factor...back in the '70's i could see it...but today everybody is health conscience and so on... |
|
|
|
Post by Gene on Sept 23, 2016 0:43:20 GMT 9
in 77 there was a big air show in paine field wa. everybody was there. the golden knights, the thunderbirds, robert conrad was there with an f4-u corsair... that night they had a big wing-ding at the local entertainment center... got to meet and talk to everybody including conrad... remember the battery commercial where he put the d-cell on his shoulder and dared the world to knock it off... he told us he was in a bar...he felt something on his shoulder.. he turned to look..there was a d-cell sitting on his shoulder and then a fist connected with his jaw and lights out... i really liked seeing him.. he was about 5'5" and dark as a mahogany stained 2 x4 with dark red hair... that was the '70's... these days theres a lot more scrutiny, not to mention cell-phone cameras , twitter and all the rest of that sh!t. so i dont think booze or physical fatigue was in the mix... and... i know your buddy bull schmitt... good guy, but a lot out-dated
|
|
Bullhunter
Global Moderator 
318th FIS Jet Shop 1975-78
Currently: Offline
Posts: 7,445
Location:
Joined: May 2005
|
Post by Bullhunter on Sept 24, 2016 1:56:17 GMT 9
My wife and I went and saw the movie "Scully" about the water landing of an airliner on the Hudson River. It was a very good movie and it showed the NTSB trying to blame the crash landing on the pilot Capt. Scully.
It pissed me off as I recalled the crash of a F-106A at McChord AFB when I was in the 318th FIS and my crew installed a new jet engine and ran it on the trim pad over the weekend. The engine would not hold trim and finely we had Crew Chiefs change out the throttle teliflex which fixed it. It flew its FCF and the next day & crashed the day after in a pond which was inside a ring of apartments. Pilot ejected safely and no injuries on the ground, thank God.
I was quickly called into the CO's office and a few other Officers were there, and after I reported the first question was, "What did you do to cause that crash?" I came back quickly and forcefully with, "Nothing, everything was looked up, done by the T.O., referanced by paged & paragraph. Check the forms!" They countered with, "that's the problem, we never have seen a set of forms so complete." I informed them, "I had a crew of young Airman and we had to be out there all weekend, and its my job to train young Airman mechanics, so they were instructed to look everything up and document the steps in the forms!" I was then dismissed. I think I was so pissed off I just turned and walked out and forgot to salute. The three young Airman were sitting out side the office looking scared, I just told them no worries - we are OK.
|
|
|
|
Crashes
Sept 24, 2016 9:25:59 GMT 9
via mobile
Post by Mark O on Sept 24, 2016 9:25:59 GMT 9
My wife and I went and saw the movie "Scully" about the water landing of an airliner on the Hudson River. It was a very good movie and it showed the NTSB trying to blame the crash landing on the pilot Capt. Scully. It pissed me off as I recalled the crash of a F-106A at McChord AFB when I was in the 318th FIS and my crew installed a new jet engine and ran it on the trim pad over the weekend. The engine would not hold trim and finely we had Crew Chiefs change out the throttle teliflex which fixed it. It flew its FCF and the next day & crashed the day after in a pond which was inside a ring of apartments. Pilot ejected safely and no injuries on the ground, thank God. I was quickly called into the CO's office and a few other Officers were there, and after I reported the first question was, "What did you do to cause that crash?" I came back quickly and forcefully with, "Nothing, everything was looked up, done by the T.O., referanced by paged & paragraph. Check the forms!" They countered with, "that's the problem, we never have seen a set of forms so complete." I informed them, "I had a crew of young Airman and we had to be out there all weekend, and its my job to train young Airman mechanics, so they were instructed to look everything up and document the steps in the forms!" I was then dismissed. I think I was so pissed off I just turned and walked out and forgot to salute. The three young Airman were sitting out side the office looking scared, I just told them no worries - we are OK. I've read that the nastiness of the NTSB depicted in the movie is totally "Hollywood", and that the real Capt Scully was totally cooperative, and had the utmost respect for them. From what I've also read, that was the only poor depiction in the movie although I have yet to view it myself. |
|
Bullhunter
Global Moderator
318th FIS Jet Shop 1975-78
Currently: Offline
Posts: 7,445
Location:
Joined: May 2005
|
Crashes
Sept 24, 2016 15:26:48 GMT 9
Post by Bullhunter on Sept 24, 2016 15:26:48 GMT 9
My wife read quite a bit on the making of the movie and how Capt Scully was there just about the whole time to ensure it was accurate. You need to see the movie yourself. |
|
|
|
Post by Gene on Sept 25, 2016 0:48:59 GMT 9
nobody knows what happened behind 'closed doors', during the ntsbs interrogation sully and the investigation of the incident. but everybody likes to hate something. the ntsb is the bad guy and of course sully is the hero. and sully being there is is another way of touting the movie . hollywood is almost as theatrical as politics and politicians. if it were real life you might have been bored to tears... glad to hear hanks is the hero...again... the last movie, i started cheering for the pirates.. and the one before i thought the ball deserved an oscar for supporting... as for the mcchord incident, you did your job and stood your ground... the way it works..
|
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Sept 28, 2016 0:17:12 GMT 9
I've read that the nastiness of the NTSB depicted in the movie is totally "Hollywood", and that the real Capt Scully was totally cooperative, and had the utmost respect for them. From what I've also read, that was the only poor depiction in the movie although I have yet to view it myself. |
|
|
|
Post by Gene on Sept 28, 2016 5:10:54 GMT 9
everybodies guilty til its figured out...at least that's how its spun...thanks to the media and their reckless abandon with sound bites...
|
|
|
|
Crashes
Sept 30, 2016 11:31:26 GMT 9
via mobile
Post by Mark O on Sept 30, 2016 11:31:26 GMT 9
I've read that the nastiness of the NTSB depicted in the movie is totally "Hollywood", and that the real Capt Scully was totally cooperative, and had the utmost respect for them. From what I've also read, that was the only poor depiction in the movie although I have yet to view it myself. My source for the comment. No, I've never dealt with the NTSB, and never really read much other than final reports. www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/09/08/investigators-object-to-portrayal-in-clint-eastwoods-sully-movie.htmlMark O |
|
Bullhunter
Global Moderator
318th FIS Jet Shop 1975-78
Currently: Offline
Posts: 7,445
Location:
Joined: May 2005
|
Post by Bullhunter on Apr 6, 2018 1:46:17 GMT 9
I heard that a USAF Thunderbird Crashed near Nellis AFB and the pilot was lost. Also 4 Marines were lost when their helicopter crashed. Bad day for the military. |
|
