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Post by MOW on May 18, 2016 9:03:10 GMT 9
Is it worth it? Removing members who have not logged on in 2 years and have 0 posts? It's a PITA to go through the list and do that and I question whether it's really necessary. Thoughts  |
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Post by Jim on May 18, 2016 10:30:23 GMT 9
Is it worth it? Removing members who have not logged on in 2 years and have 0 posts? It's a PITA to go through the list and do that and I question whether it's really necessary. Thoughts Perhaps some of us moderators could send a one time email query, fail to deliver notice or no reply- bye bye.Necessary? Only if you want to know how many are really on the forum. |
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Post by MOW on May 18, 2016 11:41:47 GMT 9
Is it worth it? Removing members who have not logged on in 2 years and have 0 posts? It's a PITA to go through the list and do that and I question whether it's really necessary. Thoughts Perhaps some of us moderators could send a one time email query, fail to deliver notice or no reply- bye bye.Necessary? Only if you want to know how many are really on the forum. Sure sounds good to me |
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Post by Gene on May 18, 2016 12:22:13 GMT 9
iv been hilighting members 2 years not checking in on the birthday page for several days now... there was at least 7 there...
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Post by pat perry on May 19, 2016 0:41:51 GMT 9
At the bottom is a picture of the Members page. I think this might only be accessible by Moderators, but I'm not sure.
Inside the red border on the picture are buttons and small font black column headers that allow you to see many different views of the Member Listing. All of them have different functions. Clicking on the column headers allow you to reorder the entire list from a-z or z-a. The Last Online column will show you the latest date order or the oldest date order. Click it again and it inverts to oldest date order.
If you look at the latest date order and jump to the last page number (13) you will see a bunch of users that have not been logged in for years. Compare that to the date they registered. Note that the last person on the list MArv who registered Mar 22, 2004 made 115 posts and his last time on site was Jun 5, 2005. We all know that this is really ma1marv who registered new on June 5, 2005 and has posted over 554 posts to date. So it would not be a good idea to delete MArv just because he hasn't logged on since June 5, 2005. We'd lose all his prior posts.
Each time you play with the column headers reordering feature, go back to the top and select Members again and all the defaults will get you back to normal. Now, click on the column header Posts and you will see that Jim (Old Sarge) leads the pack and MOW is right behind him. Click Posts again and you will see the inverted order for everyone who has made zero posts. Note that many of them registered on one day and that same day was also the last day the logged on. This doesn't mean we should delete them because they may come back daily as guests without logging in. The only thing they can't see as guests unless they log in is the threads in Purgatory which are members only. Now, move to page 3 and you will see that some have come back later and logged in to make a post. Now move up to page 6 and you will see some who came back and logged in to make 2 posts. Now, move up to page 8 and you will see those who came back and logged in to make 3 posts. One that caught my eye was F106MA1 (Gary Chaney) who would be 82 if he is still with us. He made 3 posts from 2004 to 2010.
When we find out that a member is DECEASED we can note that so his words will live on after he is gone. I'm not a big fan of deleting members. I tend to view our active members by their total number of posts and that's easy to find on the Members page by clicking on Posts.
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Post by LBer1568 on May 19, 2016 4:02:01 GMT 9
Now, move up to page 8 and you will see those who came back and logged in to make 3 posts. One that caught my eye was F106MA1 (Gary Chaney) who would be 82 if he is still with us. He made 3 posts from 2004 to 2010.
Pat, MSgt at the time, Gary Chaney was MA-1 F/L Chief who replaced the 318th FIS in Korea in 1968. I was an augumentee from Tyndall supporting 318 MA-1 F/L. I arrived a few weeks after original deployment so I stayed after 318th left. Gary was a good guy and straight shooter.
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Post by MOW on May 19, 2016 7:39:29 GMT 9
My general rule has always been if a user has even 1 post, then we do not delete them. That way we don't loose the post. It's the 0 posts and old Last Online dates I look at.
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Post by Gene on May 19, 2016 15:34:45 GMT 9
iv seen a few of those and posted them under birthdays...
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Post by oswald on May 19, 2016 20:59:27 GMT 9
In hopes that this reply is on the same subject as all the posts above, I've checked the members list and noticed that the used to be members that I knew back in the days when I was in the air force. At Richards Gebaur, just a few were Harry Withrow, Bill Halpin, and Mark Johanis. maybe the spelling isn't exact but you get what I mean. So even though they didn't post at least one has submitted some photos to Pat's archive. His name is Bill Halpin.
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Post by MOW on May 19, 2016 21:09:44 GMT 9
In hopes that this reply is on the same subject as all the posts above, I've checked the members list and noticed that the used to be members that I knew back in the days when I was in the air force. At Richards Gebaur, just a few were Harry Withrow, Bill Halpin, and Mark Johanis. maybe the spelling isn't exact but you get what I mean. So even though they didn't post at least one has submitted some photos to Pat's archive. His name is Bill Halpin. Yes absolutely, Bill Halpin has been a contributor to the photo galleries. The real issue here is old user accounts that are never used and have never posted anything here in the forums. If some of these folks are still visiting only as guests I don't know why they don't just login. But an account that has not contributed here to the forums and has never posted anything tells me it's an account not needed. |
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Post by oswald on May 19, 2016 21:15:41 GMT 9
O.K. Pat I just can't understand why so many of the guys that I worked with don't either join or post stuff here.
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Post by MOW on May 19, 2016 21:17:23 GMT 9
O.K. Pat I just can't understand why so many of the guys that I worked with don't either join or post stuff here. Yea I agree. We always have lots of guests on, but they don't join in. |
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Post by Tom Dlugosh on May 20, 2016 1:24:42 GMT 9
IMHO, trying to keep the members list up to date based on some arbitrary criteria is counter productive. It takes a lot of time and effort. The data base for members can't be that big that removing a few non-participants will improve its functionality. Members who use the site without logging in means they don't have anything to add, but it doesn't mean they aren't interested. When I found this site the first thing I did was to see if there was anyone in here that I knew. If we get rid of members that don't participate then new potential members will lose an opportunity to locate someone they knew. While it may be annoying to some, I think the MOW can find better things to do than delete non-active members.
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Post by Gene on May 20, 2016 3:44:03 GMT 9
i'm in both camps of opinions... if i joined just to check the place out is one thing. if i joined to see if there was a reason to join is almost the same thing. if i joined to become part of this group i would i checkin once in a while and/or make a post. whether you want to trim up the membership depends on why you want to... is there an amount that you might exceed and screw something up or are you wanting to keep an accurate count for some purpose?...
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Post by Jim on May 20, 2016 4:43:57 GMT 9
i'm in both camps of opinions... if i joined just to check the place out is one thing. if i joined to see if there was a reason to join is almost the same thing. if i joined to become part of this group i would i checkin once in a while and/or make a post. whether you want to trim up the membership depends on why you want to... is there an amount that you might exceed and screw something up or are you wanting to keep an accurate count for some purpose?... As easy as it is to set your log in to where when you click on the link, it automatically opens the site to you, why would you want to have to login each and every time you came here? As far as finding someone in here that you knew eons ago, unless he is entered in the "alumni" roster, or you know his user name, email address, or his location, you ain't necessarily gonna find him. Some of the more regular posters (at least 5 times a year) don't have a location, so that is out. Some in the list haven't been here in 6 years or more, and some haven't posted ever or only once. I recently sent akdart an e-mail. No reply, AND the email must have been delivered, because I never got a failure to deliver notice. Some of us are reflected as being a member since 2004 and no earlier dates. Not quite true, back when it more resembled an email sort of blog (2000 and a bit earlier)MArv, Ted Schmitz, Mross shulmister, Roger D'Entremont, Ron Kollas, Dirty Al Durden and Pat Perry are names that were around then. Even if someone came back as a guest after having logged in some time in the past, but hasn't come back with his name, why bother carrying him for more than 6 years without a visit or a post? We have many who visit 2-3 times a week without a post, BUT they come back, show up and get listed in the members on line last 24 hours. After I get a few things out of the way, I will send out some emails to the more delinquent ones and see if I get a reply. If the member count isn't going to be within a mile of being accurate, why post it.....? |
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Post by Gene on May 20, 2016 5:17:20 GMT 9
like i said... im in both camps of opinion  |
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