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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2005 3:27:06 GMT 9
Greetings: I'm currently trying to find out how the '106 was loaded with the Genie/Falcon weapons loaded. I would like to find either someone who would be able to tell me, or some photos. I am a cold war history buff, and model builder. I am currently planning to build several dioramas including one featuring the F-106. The diorama that I am making with the F-106 is showing the crew loading a Genie into the weapons bay of the aircraft. What I need to know is: - Was the Genie loaded first or last?
- Where where can I find images of the loader for the Genie?
- Where was the loading done? (Near the weapons storage facility or in/near the alert shelter)
I am a bit young to remember much about the F-106, just that it was an striking aircraft. I think there were a couple of air shows in my home town where the 106 was on static display, but that's about all I can remember about them. Stirling Millar
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Post by Jim on Jan 27, 2005 10:41:45 GMT 9
What I need to know is: - Was the Genie loaded first or last?
- Where was the loading done? (Near the weapons storage facility or in/near the alert shelter)
Stirling Millar
Best I can recall, there was no real sequence- at one time augmentees (non essential people were used) to open the coffins and put the Falcons on their loading cradles ahead of the load crews. It was crowded in the weapons bay any ways.. Loading was done any place-alert barns, ready hangars and on the ramp--if it was snowing and the wind chill was 30 below , you can rest assured that you were loading on the ramp- I have the frost bitten fingers to prove it from 45 yrs ago... The Genie loader was a 4 wheeled trailer with hyd lift and a cradle that would move fwd and aft, left and right and could also rotate.......perhaps ChiefOTheDarts Ralph can help there.....The Old Sarge
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Post by MFolks on Jan 29, 2005 12:59:19 GMT 9
I have first hand weapons loading on the 106. I was based at Hamilton AFB Calif. in 1969-70 and spent many a day either working on the pneumatic weapons systems or doing proficiency loading of the AIM-4F and AIM-4G missiles and the AIR-2A GENIE rocket.
The normal loading sequence at Hamilton was to :1.remove the missile coffins from the trailers and to open them up and prepare the missiles to be loaded. 2. If the missiles were upside down ( which was 50%0f the time) the handling bar was used along with the threeman load crew and the missile or missiles were placed in the correct position. 3.The loading crew was briefed by the lead man or #1 man as to the type of load the aircraft type emergency phone numbers, location of fire ext, removal of rings and watches from hands etc. 4.The loading members were given specific tasks to preform before weapons were loaded and being I was the #2 or "B" man my job was to make sure the aircraft was grounded, and to make sure that I did not go too fast in my preload checks and leave my crew members behind. 5. After completing the preload checks the next thing to do was open up the weapons bay and lower the launchers. 6. The #3 man by then had done his checks and was standing in the left main gear wheel well area and I was in the right whell well. 7.I called for power to the aircraft and the #1 man started the MD-3 or other power unit and once it was stabilized turned on the 28 volt D.C. first and then the 400 HZ A.C. power. 8.With power to the aircraft I opened the bay doors and turned the lever that locked them open and then lowered the foward and aft launchers and the #3 man turned the control to lock the launchers in the down position. 9. After securing the missile bay a device or devices known as sems(stray energy monitors) were installed on the four launchers and in the MB-1 rack and checked for indication of stray voltage. 10. If the system checked o.k. then the three man crew moved the aim-4 missiles using the loading bar to the handling frame where each missile was wheeled out one at a timeand placed by each launcher and the three man team picked up the missiles and locked them on the launchers. 11.Power to the aircraft was again called for and the launchers were retracted up in the bay and the system was made safe. 12. The Air Force has a two man rule about nuclear weapons safety and that means any special weapon will not have less than two people around it during the loading phase. 13. The #2and #3 man would go to where the AIR-2A was waiting on it's trailer and wheel it into the loading position. 14. The trailer has a manually operated hydraulic arm tha lifts the 800-900 weapon up until the three "T" shaped lugs lock into the MB-1 rack. 15. If it's been a long day or the trailer hydraulic systems are weak you pump that handle for all your worth! and then the trailer lift arm is lowered and the trailer is moved to it's parking spot. 16.After the sway braces are positioned on the Genie so it dos not shake its time to install the five ARD 863 carts in the MB-1 breech. 17. The carts have been installed and the breech torqued and the lanyards connected that will set off the timer in the Genie after it's kicked out of the bay. 18. My job was to safety wire with .020 copper wire the weapons switches in the cockpit and crimp with a lead seal so that the loading crew # was shown. I believe I did this when we first did our procedures at the start of the load but it's been 30+ years so I'm not sure. 19. At this point the weapons bay doors were closed with a "BANG" the data was marked on the placard on the left side of the aircraft and the load was considered done.
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Post by Jim on Jan 29, 2005 15:41:32 GMT 9
Mike is pretty close in his simplified loading sequence, however after a near drop- the Genie trailer remained under the weapon until the sway braces were torqued.. Lead seal was next to last step in squence.....now you know as much as 2 old guys can remember....the Old Sarge
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2005 16:08:32 GMT 9
Althrough I can't be sure that may have been what happened with a Comox CFB CF-101B Voodoo loading crew. The lift arm was lowered and the weapon dropped from it's (MB-1?) rack. There was a mention of a Dull Sword in one of the books I came across while at a university book store. (The title is somewhat misleading: Canadian Nuclear Weapons: The Untold Story of Canada's Cold War Arsenal. Canada never had, nor has atomic weapons of its own, but the U.S. "gave" them to us. (They maintained them, and controlled them.)) The other book in the series is what got me interested in the F-106. (U.S. Nuclear Weapons in Canada)
Are there any shots of the racks in the loading position because I'm certain I'm going to need to do some kitbashing to show the loading process.
Stirling Millar
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Post by minot462 on Feb 2, 2005 10:29:08 GMT 9
when we loaded the F-106's at minot the four Aim-4 falcons were loaded first, the rails were then raised and the Air-2a genie was loaded the crew consisted of three men with the "c"man operating the hand hydraulic pump to raise the rocket up to the rack the "a" man or crew chief was on the right side of the bay (viewed from the rear) and the "b" man was on the left side, if a photo of the Genie and its associated trailer would be of a help to you please e-mail me at SRUPP@wi.rr.com.
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Post by AMMO BREW on Mar 16, 2005 19:25:21 GMT 9
DARN LOADERS!!
IYAAYAS
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Post by MArv on Mar 16, 2005 22:49:08 GMT 9
D I L L I G A S !!!!!!!!!! MArv
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Post by Ed Skompski on Mar 23, 2005 8:13:55 GMT 9
I sent a picture of my father (Edward Skompski) to Erv Smalley and he has posted it at his site. The picture taken at Holloman AFB in the late 50's early 60's in front of 60464, shows an early version (I would guess) of the loading device used for the Genie. Here is the link: www.convairf-106deltadart.com/56046404Large.htmlHope that helps! Ed Skompski "Big Ed" skompski@comcast.net
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Post by Jim on Mar 23, 2005 9:37:32 GMT 9
D I L L I G A S !!!!!!!!!! MArv WHY YE WEENIES AND CANNONCOCKERS TALKIN FERIN LIKE ;D ;D ;D
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Post by MArv on Mar 23, 2005 12:15:55 GMT 9
Jim, its the short hand version of a definitive statement! I'll be happy to fill in the blanks fer ya! Grab a Beer! Here goes! IYAAYAS! = If Ya Aint AMMO, YA AINT $hit! DILLIGAS = Does It look Like I Give A $hit? HIIYA!! = Hang It In Your Ass!! and MY personal Favorite GCSWGAS! Go Call Someone Who Gives A $hit! And NOW you know!! Enjoy! (NO offense intended to you! ) MArv
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Post by Jim on Mar 23, 2005 13:13:18 GMT 9
And NOW you know!! Enjoy! (NO offense intended to you! ) MArv like the old Indian told the old woman in the movie Joshie Wells, None Taken, an I be a thankin ye fer furtherin me edification The Old Sarge
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2005 15:45:08 GMT 9
Marv: You missed one. My favorite is DINSTAAR. Danger is no stranger to an ranger. That one always got a laugh from me.
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Post by Cougar on Mar 24, 2005 17:21:50 GMT 9
IYAAYAS! = If Ya Aint AMMO, YA AINT $hit! DILLIGAS = Does It look Like I Give A $hit? HIIYA!! = Hang It In Your Ass!! and MY personal Favorite GCSWGAS! Go Call Someone Who Gives A $hit! MArv Does any of this have anything to do with the MFWIC? ;D
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Post by Jim on Mar 24, 2005 23:11:07 GMT 9
Does any of this have anything to do with the MFWIC? ;D DEPENDS ON WHAT CAREER FIELD HE WAS IN.....WE TIRE KICKERS DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MFWIC- THEY WERE IN THE OTHER FIELDS ;D ;D THE OLD SARGE
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