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Post by Mark O on Feb 23, 2014 6:22:00 GMT 9
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Post by Mark O on Feb 23, 2014 6:23:38 GMT 9
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Post by LBer1568 on Feb 23, 2014 6:47:47 GMT 9
Well they might have screwed up the B Model "Panels". The B model did not have left and right aft electronics (MA-1) panels. The B model had a top rib rack directly behind cockpit for Comm/NAV and a "Coffin" rack between front rails. The snapshot shots screw patterns for the Left/Right Aft Electronics panels. The panels also have way too many cam-lock screws. Probably twice as many as aircraft. So I would assume that A Models panels are the same and incorrect. We would have scrubbed a lot of missions because of that many cam-locks. The actual panel had about a cam-lock every 3 inches id I remember correctly. I probably opened the comm/nav left side aft electronics to fix UHF/TACAN etc on quick fix a few hundred times.
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Post by Mark O on Feb 23, 2014 8:58:27 GMT 9
Oh yea, here are the entries from the Trumpeter catalog. By the way, notice also the split elevons. Probably fixable. (You should read all the mistakes the guys over on Facebook have spotted!)
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Post by Diamondback on Feb 23, 2014 10:14:25 GMT 9
First AMK in dev, now Trumpy showing test-shots... finally getting some love! I may be able to get Balls 54 built for my old prof after all... hopefully this'll kick Six decals back into print too.
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Post by burnsracing on Mar 16, 2014 10:55:34 GMT 9
Were you at McGuire when the screws were left out of the Hump(TACAN) and the TACAN was lost over Ft.Dix? They returned safely to the base less the whole paned with wires flapping in the breeze. That is when they started painting a red line on that bat door. The crew chief and two pilots overlooked the missing screws. I think there were 32 cam-locs on the right and left aft bays. Richard Burns former 539th FIS
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Post by LBer1568 on Mar 16, 2014 22:47:51 GMT 9
I don't remember the B model losing Hump Door/rack. I got to McGuire in Apr 1964. Which B model was it? Do you remember. I sure don't have as much memory as I would like. How are things with you and family? Have you retired-retired? I stopped working (for others) about 5 years ago. Now I do more than before around house and with grandkids. Got three of them this weekend. man can they wear you out. Lorin
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Post by Mark O on Jul 7, 2014 5:06:17 GMT 9
Looks like Trumpeter is getting ready to release their F-106A kit in 1/48 scale. I found these photos over on Facebook, and the quality of the scans may be an issue, but it's all I have for now. I checked on-line, and found one site offering the kit as a "pre-order" for $48.95 with a list price of $74.95. I believe I will wait a bit on this one. My biggest critique is on the decals, and I have yet to see the actual sprues, so that is of interest. (I'm very curious about what design they have used for the actual construction, and if it differs much from the Revell/Monogram style.) I certainly hope that the blue carrier film on the decal sheet is a result of a bad scan otherwise those decals are useless. I also noted they included a TAC badge for some unknown reason on this all-ANG set. I have a few other issues, but would like to see a higher quality scan in order to properly assess them. In any event, rumor has it the kit will be available very soon. Mark O
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Post by Mark O on Oct 10, 2014 14:50:34 GMT 9
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Post by pat perry on Oct 11, 2014 1:39:36 GMT 9
Ouch, that's kinda pricey, but probably worth it if the tooling was good and the kit goes together well.
Mark, we'll expect a good critique of the kit from you along with pictures.
PS: The B Model you pictured earlier in this thread looks really nice!
Pat P.
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Post by Mark O on Oct 15, 2014 2:51:15 GMT 9
Well, I broke down, and bought one. (Never a doubt, really!) First impressions are that it is a very nice kit. Much more detail than the old, standard Monogram. It includes PE parts for the seat, and cockpit as well. Coming off of new molds the plastic is pretty sharp, and the clear parts include position/navigation lights however, only the late-model blown canopy is included. (Sort of eliminates versions in early markings unlike the Monogram kit.) Interestingly the elevons are split (two pieces per wing), so that makes for a bit of work, or a possiblilty. I'll get some good pics of the sprues later if anyone is interested. Here are the decals. I've seen better, and may not use these. (The Florida "blue" seems a bit on the light side to me, and note the TAC badge. Anyone remember the 125th having that insignia on the aircraft? I don't.) I posted the decals on the site with the rest of my collection as well, and my comments on those are there. They do look better than that original pic I found on the net, but overall I am not that impressed with these decals. More after work tonight.
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Post by Jim on Oct 15, 2014 3:45:16 GMT 9
Well, I broke down, and bought one. (Never a doubt, really!) First impressions are that it is a very nice kit. Much more detail than the old, standard Monogram. It includes PE parts for the seat, and cockpit as well. Coming off of new molds the plastic is pretty sharp, and the clear parts include position/navigation lights however, only the late-model blown canopy is included. (Sort of eliminates versions in early markings unlike the Monogram kit.) Interestingly the elevons are split (two pieces per wing), so that makes for a bit of work, or a possiblilty. I'll get some good pics of the sprues later if anyone is interested. Here are the decals. I've seen better, and may not use these. (The Florida "blue" seems a bit on the light side to me, and note the TAC badge. Anyone remember the 125th having that insignia on the aircraft? I don't.) I posted the decals on the site with the rest of my collection as well, and my comments on those are there. They do look better than that original pic I found on the net, but overall I am not that impressed with these decals. More after work tonight. Glad my memory doesn't include the flaming saword replacing the American Eagle on the tail.... Not a spelling error, that is how we non tac guys said it...........
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Post by Mark O on Oct 15, 2014 14:34:26 GMT 9
A few impressions on the Trumpeter kit. First, the cockpit is pretty nice, including the seat which is a five-piece affair with photoetched belts for the harness. (There were 2 in my box, so yes, they are getting ready for the B-model.) Nice to see the engraved, versus raised panel lines, and of course the two-piece fuselage is much nicer than the three-piece RM. Also unlike the RM the speed brakes can be build closed which makes an easier "in-flight" build. The elevons can be positioned for in-flight as well. The weapons bay is very nice, and I like that you can build the launchers in the extended position, though the doors are not pre-molded in the open position. Care must be taken to get the right fold to them, but I haven't even dry-fitted mine yet, so this may not be an issue. The intakes are too thick, but in fairness so are the ones on the RM. (Rumor is aftermarket ones are planned.) Some of the detail seems "softer" than the RM, and some is better. Kind of subjective I guess, but that's me. Nice, but I'm not throwing my old Monogram kits away, and definitely do not see myself buying a squadron's worth of these new kits. I've read a bunch of reviews on the modeling web sites, and for the most part the biggest complaint (other than the price) is the intakes. I would definitely expect some aftermarket. The decals are not getting slammed as much I expected (I don't care for them myself. Not the subject; just the overall look.) One guy did complain that the "USAF" letters were not in the correct "blue." (Huh?) Anyway, I really have to say that the kit looks like an F-106, and unless you just have to spend that kind of money, yet have pretty good modeling skills, and can live with the open speed brakes, and non-extended weapons, stick with the Revell-Monogram. There are plenty of aftermarket parts already availble for that kit if you have to spend some extra cash. (I'm going to try to get some side-by-side pics of the Trumpeter parts, and the Monogram parts for a good comparison.) The forthcoming Trumpeter F-106B? Well, that is another story! (Just worried about the incorrect engraved panels/doors, but being engraved means they can be easily filled versus sanding off raised panel lines, i.e. the Monogram kit.) Mark O Edit: This site has better photos of the sprues than I could take right now, so I'm not going to re-invent the wheel in that respect. Note that I got TWO of the sprue 'trees' with the ejection seat in my box. That is either a mistake, or a big hint that the B-model will be released very soon. I kind of expect 119th FIS (and possibly 159th FIS) markings for that kit as well, but we'll see. Remember that Draw Decal will be releasing several F-106 decals in the near future, and I expect other companies (such as Caracal) will as well. www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/tru/kit_tru_2891.shtml
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Post by Jim on Oct 15, 2014 22:37:05 GMT 9
Mark, any idea why 044 and not 043, the last flyable- if they haven't de-miled it for Minot?
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Post by Mark O on Oct 16, 2014 15:13:06 GMT 9
Mark, any idea why 044 and not 043, the last flyable- if they haven't de-miled it for Minot? Lord knows why Trumpeter -- or any maker -- decides on what tail number to pick. I can't figure out why many outfits even bother with some of their horrendous decal offerings such as the one in that F-106 kit. The nice thing is there are several aftermarket decal makers that can usually fill the need that modelers want, and that is the case for most new kits. Draw Decal, and Caracal Models are busy making some already. (FWIW, I had a small hand in helping Draw Decal choose what decals for the F-106 they plan on releasing very soon. I expect to pay retail for them just like everyone else, however!)
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Post by MOW on Oct 16, 2014 18:46:19 GMT 9
043 did get de-mil'd for Minot.
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