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Post by otisafbkid on Apr 11, 2013 13:14:45 GMT 9
Hello, My Dad was assigned to Hancock AFB in the early 60s and then Otis AFB and was involved in the SAGE and data link systems that the EC-121s used to control and direct interceptions. Would any of you have any more information about the SAGE system? Thank you for your help!
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Post by Mark O on Apr 11, 2013 13:24:12 GMT 9
Hello, My Dad was assigned to Hancock AFB in the early 60s and then Otis AFB and was involved in the SAGE and data link systems that the EC-121s used to control and direct interceptions. Would any of you have any more information about the SAGE system? Thank you for your help! First things first... Have you visited this page on Pat's, main www.f-106deltadart.com site? www.f-106deltadart.com/sage_system.htmGreat place to start!
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Post by MOW on Apr 11, 2013 14:28:33 GMT 9
otisafbkid I think you just might need a 101st FIS avatar Yes, what Mark O said, start with the website link he provided, which is my site, but more importantly... any info, photo's, stories etc you might have from your dad's time working with SAGE please send my way so I can add to or update the website.
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Post by zipper730 on Oct 4, 2016 11:36:34 GMT 9
I didn't know EC-121's were involved in direction of the intercepts
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Post by LBer1568 on Oct 4, 2016 23:51:50 GMT 9
I didn't know EC-121's were involved in direction of the intercepts The EC-121 was the early form of AWACS. They had two radar units and both radar and Weapons Systems Controllers on board. We had a detachment of them at McGuire parked right next to the 539th FIS F-106 squadron. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_EC-121_Warning_Star
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Post by Jim on Oct 5, 2016 0:10:49 GMT 9
I didn't know EC-121's were involved in direction of the intercepts The EC-121 was the early form of AWACS. They had two radar units and both radar and Weapons Systems Controllers on board. We had a detachment of them at McGuire parked right next to the 539th FIS F-106 squadron. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_EC-121_Warning_Star There was a detachment at Teague AB, Korea in '71 when my brother was stationed with them and I was at Suwon with the ROKAF 10th Fighter Wing. While I know nothing of ROKAF's Sage capabilities, I do know that this detachment provided AWACS for the F-5 wing at Suwon, the ROKAF F-4C wing at Teague and the USAF rotational wing at Kunson and host USAF wing at Osan. This was, with I believe, 5 EC-121 aircraft. Wikipedia doesn't reflect this, but my brother and I can verify this, as we were there and seen it
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Post by Bullhunter on Oct 5, 2016 2:59:17 GMT 9
The SAGE Building @ McChord now houses the Education Center and a few other things.
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Post by zipper730 on Oct 5, 2016 5:21:02 GMT 9
Jim,
I know the EC-121 was an AWACS: I just didn't know they actually could send signals to the interceptors via the SAGE data-link
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Post by Jim on Oct 5, 2016 5:34:24 GMT 9
Jim, I know the EC-121 was an AWACS: I just didn't know they actually could send signals to the interceptors via the SAGE data-link What difference would it have made? Radios would do the same thing and allow the pilots to still control their a/c. This is how it worked in the early 70s. And the majority of the ROKAF pilots spoke English.... To simplify the understanding you can say that the EC-121 was the airborne version of an artillery spotter- sees 'em, and tells em where they are
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Post by LBer1568 on Oct 5, 2016 7:07:42 GMT 9
Jim, I know the EC-121 was an AWACS: I just didn't know they actually could send signals to the interceptors via the SAGE data-link SAGE was a Data Link system which sent signals to MA-1 System which displayed numerous signals to pilots displays/Instruments. But the SAGE also had Intercept Controllers whom talked to pilot and gave him intercept directions. The eC-121 sent radar data to SAGE Controllers and also had Intercept Controllers on board to manually direct Pilots to enemy aircraft. It was all part of NORAD Defense of America.
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Post by Jim on Oct 5, 2016 8:18:20 GMT 9
Jim, I know the EC-121 was an AWACS: I just didn't know they actually could send signals to the interceptors via the SAGE data-link SAGE was a Data Link system which sent signals to MA-1 System which displayed numerous signals to pilots displays/Instruments. But the SAGE also had Intercept Controllers whom talked to pilot and gave him intercept directions. The eC-121 sent radar data to SAGE Controllers and also had Intercept Controllers on board to manually direct Pilots to enemy aircraft. It was all part of NORAD Defense of America. And, as I stated, the Republic of Korea Air Force as well...........Believe ROKAF may have their own version of AWACS by now (45 years later)
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Post by Mark O on Oct 5, 2016 8:39:29 GMT 9
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Post by Mark O on Oct 5, 2016 8:40:51 GMT 9
Quite... BTW, it is was the SAGE "System", not program.
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