finnwolf
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Post by finnwolf on Nov 4, 2012 21:41:49 GMT 9
I know (actually from this forum) that the Sixes trained interception against the B-52:s. Makes sense, tactically the B-52 compares to the Tu-95 "Bear". But did the Sixes ever train or test against the other famous contemporary Convair product, the supersonic B-58 bomber? (Short lived, but one of my favorites too ) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_B-58_HustlerThat could have been unnecessary I suppose. Because the only Soviet equivalent (originally of course, before "Backfire" and "Blackjack") was the slower Tu-22 "Blinder", definately a medium bomber which probably could not have reached U.S shores. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-22I suppose intercepting a B-58 "Hustler" at least when it was flying top speed could have been difficult? If one is to believe this Wikipedia article how in testing against the Concorde, only one souped up Lightning could reach that Mach 2 (passenger!) jet. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Lightning"In British Airways trials in April 1985, Concorde was offered as a target to NATO fighters including F-15 Eagles, F-16 Fighting Falcons, F-14 Tomcats, Mirages, F-104 Starfighters - but only Lightning XR749, flown by Mike Hale and described by him as "a very hot ship, even for a Lightning", managed to overtake Concorde on a stern conversion intercept." Makes one think if pulling the plug from bombers like the XB-70 Valkyrie and even the original B-1 was premature.
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Post by LBer1568 on Nov 5, 2012 1:59:31 GMT 9
We had the RAF Lightnings deploy to Tyndall while I was there in about 1968-69 time frame. They also deployed two Vulcan bombers. While there they performed an aerobatics demo and fly-by with all aircraft. The Vulcans were delta winged 4 engine bombers and awesome to watch.
We had joint exercises using bombers as bad guys and the Lightnings flew both good guy/bd guys.
After exercise was over we hosted all the British Airmen to a party Royale at the NCO Club. Later that evening I had a VW van full of RAF as I took the to see the bars of Panama City and the after hours clubs. Luckily I had the next day off.
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Post by pat perry on Nov 5, 2012 2:26:14 GMT 9
We had the RAF Lightnings deploy to Tyndall while I was there in about 1968-69 time frame. They also deployed two Vulcan bombers. While there they performed an aerobatics demo and fly-by with all aircraft. The Vulcans were delta winged 4 engine bombers and awesome to watch. We had joint exercises using bombers as bad guys and the Lightnings flew both good guy/bd guys. After exercise was over we hosted all the British Airmen to a party Royale at the NCO Club. Later that evening I had a VW van full of RAF as I took the to see the bars of Panama City and the after hours clubs. Luckily I had the next day off. Castle Air Museum has an AVRO Vulcan .B2 on display. A neat aircraft and very big. www.castleairmuseum.org/avro_vulcan.htmlThe aircraft on display at Castle Air Museum, XM 605, is a B.2 version which was operated by the Royal Air Force's 44 Squadron and was based at R.A.F. Waddington, Lincolnshire, England. It arrived in 1981 and is on indefinite loan to the museum, courtesy of Her Majesty's Government. Maybe MOW was at Castle when they parked this one at the CAM? Pat P.
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Post by adcfan on Nov 6, 2012 4:13:33 GMT 9
When I was with the 1 FW, 71 FIS & 94 FIS at Selfridge, 66 & 67, we did night exercises intercepting B-58s over Lake Huron. We could hear the sonic booms and pilots would tell us the workouts they had catching them. The B-58s were gone by 1970. The Vulcan bombers in Goose Bay were almost if not impossible to get at low altitude with our F4s.
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Post by sullivanjj on Nov 6, 2012 5:25:19 GMT 9
We tried a couple of head-ons in the test program at Edwards. Did not get much time to lock on.
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Post by Mark O on Nov 6, 2012 5:30:24 GMT 9
We tried a couple of head-ons in the test program at Edwards. Did not get much time to lock on. I'll bet! That must have been one heck of a closure rate! :welcome to the forums! Glad you got my message, and decided to drop by! What's your background with the F-106?
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Post by LBer1568 on Nov 6, 2012 7:12:27 GMT 9
While at Tyndall we had a lot of deployed Squadrons get the opportunity to fire at Bomarc Missiles. I saw many WSEM Tapes with overtake rates above 2,000. Pilots said they would start a head on /stern attack and convert to aft stern when locked on. At those rates the 28 mile lockon range was a real challenge for pilots.
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