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Post by Mark O on Jan 30, 2012 1:09:03 GMT 9
Here's a shot of that Montana ANG Six with the stripes mentioned a few posts back.  |
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Post by sixfixer on Jan 30, 2012 1:40:44 GMT 9
I know the horse is near dead - but I wanted to throw in another CO bird - - s/n 56-0458, from the 48th FIS as she was in the early 80's. -0458 wore it's command stripes before being transferred to the ADWC. The first pix is from Erv & Marty's site - - the other is from Airfighters.com. Attachments:
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Post by sixfixer on Jan 30, 2012 1:43:51 GMT 9
 ! - - Here is the other one from Airfighters.com - - - Attachments:
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Post by Mark O on Jan 30, 2012 1:45:49 GMT 9
How about this one from the 11th FIS taken in 1965? Note the location of the stripes especially. Command stripes, or just markings?  Forgot to add I found this on Erv's site. It's a scan from Wings of Fame, Vol. 12. www.convairf-106deltadart.com/57023105Large.html |
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Post by Mark O on Jan 30, 2012 2:00:31 GMT 9
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Post by Mark O on Jan 30, 2012 2:22:03 GMT 9
This is from my collection found on the web. I think this one is interesting as the stripes wrap almost right up to the clear canopy, and appear not to wrap around the bottom of the aircraft.  Erv has another shot of the same aircraft here... www.convairf-106deltadart.com/59006901Large.html |
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Post by Mark O on Jan 30, 2012 2:28:07 GMT 9
Compare this shot of 59-0066 to the one I posted of Balls 69. You can see these stripes obviously wrap completely around the bottom of the aircraft.  I got this shot off of the Replica in Scale web blog. It was taken on 23 March 1985 at George AFB by M. Morgan. |
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Post by Mark O on Jan 30, 2012 2:38:26 GMT 9
Okay, you talked me into it. One more! (Correction) From the Airfighters site this July 1986 photo shows the difference in the stripes on a 49th bird from the earlier photo of Balls 69.  |
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Post by Mark O on Jan 30, 2012 6:30:56 GMT 9
A bit different version of the stripes on a former ADWC B-model turned drone. They angled these back obviously. I didn't find a shot of her in ADWC colors WITH the stripes, however.  Off of Erv's site... www.convairf-106deltadart.com/57254003Large.html |
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Post by Mark O on Jan 30, 2012 7:42:47 GMT 9
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Post by Mark O on Jan 30, 2012 10:21:12 GMT 9
Hey Jim Too - Do these markings ring a bell with you? Erv's site says this photo was taken in 1971, so it may be after you left the 5th, but did they have anything along these lines when you were there? BTW, were you there when 59-0001 crashed on 12 October 1966, and do you have any insight on the incident? |
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Post by Mark O on Jan 30, 2012 11:22:48 GMT 9
I just had to post this one of "The Last Six", 59-0148 in 456th markings from WT-61. Note how the aft command stripe is actually painted on top of the intake splitter! This is the first one like this I've seen. This is a good example of the 28th Air Division markings on the bottom of the vertical stab as well. Note the 28th AD patch, and how they incorporated the tail number in the design as well. Just a really neat design! All the squadron art, the Air Division addition, and the buzz number. Throw in the helmet hanging from the canopy rail, and one cool-ass CO standing with his mount sure makes for a great scene! I sure wish I would have seen this in person. BTW, that's the CO, Lt. Col Price standing there off the nose - yea, later Maj Gen Price that died in 59-0021.  Erv's page is here - www.convairf-106deltadart.com/590148Page.html |
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Post by ma1marv on Jan 30, 2012 11:56:38 GMT 9
Yep - Thats neat allright!
But I do believe that picture was taken on the flightline at Duluth, Minnesota. The building in the background sure looks like the old barracks we had, that and the 11th Fighter 90097 tail to the right!
The pic had to have been taken before 1969 because shortly after - we became the 87th FIS and the tail insignia changed. Also the bird does not have the refueling mod, still has the old 080 unit and the 169 unit still in place!
In case any of you "OLD GUYS" missed it! :2thumbsup
MArv :fire_missle_ani :patriotic-flagwaver
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Post by ma1marv on Jan 30, 2012 11:59:08 GMT 9
OH! I also noticed it was well before me!!! The aircraft does NOT have IR bulge on the nose!
MArv :fire_missle_ani :patriotic-flagwaver :fire_missle_ani
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Post by Mark O on Jan 30, 2012 12:03:35 GMT 9
Yep - Thats neat allright! But I do believe that picture was taken on the flightline at Duluth, Minnesota. The building in the background sure looks like the old barracks we had, that and the 11th Fighter 90097 tail to the right! The pic had to have been taken before 1969 because shortly after - we became the 87th FIS and the tail insignia changed. Also the bird does not have the refueling mod, still has the old 080 unit and the 169 unit still in place! In case any of you "OLD GUYS" missed it!  MArv   MArv, I got the info from Erv's site on this photo. "1961 photo showing 59-0148 in 456th FIS Castle AFB CA squadron commander's markings at WT-61. Squadron commander Lt. Col. James L. Price "El Jefe" is in the flight suit by the pitot boom. Note the 11th FIS Duluth MAP MN markings on 59-0097 in the background."www.convairf-106deltadart.com/59014801Large.htmlPlease fill us uninformed folks in on what the "080" and "169" units are! Mark O |
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Post by ma1marv on Jan 30, 2012 12:11:31 GMT 9
OK Mark - the 080 was the RADAR Scope, the 169 was the hanging optical sight ( Where the pilots USUALLY placed their helmets!)  Any other questions will cost you a cold beer! MArv :fire_missle_ani :2thumbsup |
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Post by Mark O on Jan 30, 2012 12:16:20 GMT 9
OK Mark - the 080 was the RADAR Scope, the 169 was the hanging optical sight ( Where the pilots USUALLY placed their helmets!) Any other questions will cost you a cold beer! MArv Ohhh!! Sounds like a deal!! Do I get to pick the beer?! Seriously, thanks a bunch!! :yellow-beer |
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Jan 30, 2012 12:45:34 GMT 9
Mark, I was on leave when 001 "crashed".
Actually it made a pretty good belly landing.
Lt. Col. John Fowler, squadron commander, was the pilot.
I was at Arlington the day of his funeral, but didn't hear about it until we got to De's aunt's in Minneapolis.
As I recall, faulty as that may be, it was never fully determined when Col. Fowler died.
He had some kind of seizure, stroke, heart attack, they think, while coming in. Never got the gear down, but the airplane skidded down the runway, with no foam, as the fire department didn't know there was a problem until sparks started coming from under it.
When I got back, Balls One was sitting on wooden frames in the hanger.
It was sent to Sacramento, McClellan, and eventually flew again.
Col. Fowler would stop by maintenance control every evening, have a cup of coffee with me, get a briefing on the status of our birds, then shoot the breeze for a bit before he went home.
One of the finest commanders I ever had.
I left Minot in Fib 1967, and there were no stripes at that time.
The only thing, other than the tail arrow, and the Spittin' Kitten decal, was the unit citation ribbon on the lower part of the tail.
There were also no 57 models.
We originally had 59-0001 - 59-0020, along with two B models, 545 and 901.
When I would go back to Minot, I would go to the transient alert ready room and visit with some former 5th guys working there.
By that time there were different markings on the birds, and some different birds, like 57-0237.
With my 45 years memory of those days, I may not be fully correct, but think I'm at least close.
Jim Too
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Post by ma1marv on Jan 30, 2012 13:08:57 GMT 9
OK MArk!
But one caveate - NO Budweiser or any beer that requires FRUIT in it!
MArv :green-beer :green-beer :salute
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Post by Diamondback on Feb 16, 2012 14:21:16 GMT 9
Well, I have some high-res scans of the Drendel profile, and... using the belly line as "0", my protractor says the stripes are bang-on 72 degrees.
Now looking for landmarks on size... I'm just going to measure the entire band of all three and find airframe parts of similar size. Will edit with followups...
EDIT: Entire band, all three stripes combined, appears to be a little wider than the "Armament" marking box, and about the same as the rudder's chord where it meets the fin cap. Anyone have dimensions on either of these?
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! - - Here is the other one from Airfighters.com - - - 
