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Post by Trigger on Jan 10, 2006 2:15:20 GMT 9
Good morning everyone. I joined up last year and I had barely registered when I began the quest to buy a new house. Now that I'm settling into "The Cracker Barrel" (if you saw the wallpaper that I've still got to take down, you'd understand), I'm slowly re-starting The Factory.
Anyway, I've got four Revellogram 1:48 F-106 kits waiting for me to get to them and I'm in the planning stages for the builds. One will be a 186 FIS jet, number two will be from the 48th FIS, and number three will be a 456 FIS jet.
As for number four? Well, since I'll already have three big Sixes in ADC gray, I'd like to finish #4 in something different to mix it up a bit. Did any F-106s ever fly in overall natural metal or natural metal with Day-Glo orange finishes? Was there ever a SEA scheme outlined in Tech Orders, or any serious consideration to re-painting ANG Sixes in low-vis grays in the 80s? I looked at the Jacksonville Bicentennial F-106 and I've decided that I didn't want to go that way.
I won't rule out a "what-if" finish, but I'd like to make sure that there wasn't something just as, if not more interesting that what I could come up with from my own imagination (ie - what if F-106s were deployed to SEA to fly top cover for F-4s and F-105s?).
Thanks in advance!
- G
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Post by John Bartoszewicz on Jan 10, 2006 3:21:03 GMT 9
There was the "Red Baron". It seems to be a real photo, but no one has ever told the story.
That standard ADC F-106 Grey was actually a heat resistant, discipant special paint.
Found a link under F-106, Zoom, on GOOGLE in like the 80s where Dick Stultz answers some of the BS in current books. He mentions the paint and the bomber weapon being on a dead man switch.
Did not he flew for 24 years.
Jack
PS: You could always go with Test A/C or Arctic colors.
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Post by Trigger on Jan 10, 2006 4:03:52 GMT 9
Yup, the Red Baron is on the short list of potentials - I hesitated to mention it before (sorry, that was a mistake) because I've only seen the one photo of it here (Tail number 60459?) and I'm a little leery of jumping on such a subject without a little more reference info. (Anyone got any more pix?).
Yeah, I was thinking of a test aircraft when I was thinking of a NMF or NMF w/DayGlo Orange. Just haven't seen one yet.
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Post by pat perry on Jan 10, 2006 7:05:44 GMT 9
Yup, the Red Baron is on the short list of potentials - I hesitated to mention it before (sorry, that was a mistake) because I've only seen the one photo of it here (Tail number 60459?) and I'm a little leery of jumping on such a subject without a little more reference info. (Anyone got any more pix?). Yeah, I was thinking of a test aircraft when I was thinking of a NMF or NMF w/DayGlo Orange. Just haven't seen one yet. Hey Trigger, go here convairf106deltadart.homestead.com/560459Page.html and check out Erv Smalley's site for other pictures - he has most of them. Dick Stultz is a member of Pat's World site but he may not check in very often since he stays quite busy with work. His email is disz@earthlink.net and he could probably fill you in on the details of 56-0459. Be sure and send us some pics when you get done. The 456th FIS decals in the kit are for the early 60s version of the paint. There is also a 66-68 version decal set on the market with slightly different tail markings if you are interested. Since you are restoring three to vintage colors it might be nice to see a creative new design from you. Some of the aircraft magazines at Barnes and Nobles Books have some really radical paint jobs on many of the latest fighters. Let's see what you can come up with. Have fun! Pat Perry 456th FIS |
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Post by Mark O on Jan 10, 2006 13:22:02 GMT 9
Here's a scan of the proposed SEA camo. This is from a Japanese publication but it's right out of the T.O. Also is a link from the T.O. You can see it's pretty much the same. This is the way you should go for #4!!! Mark  www.geocities.com/yamahaxv920rh/TOfiles/F106.gif |
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Post by Mark O on Jan 10, 2006 13:52:39 GMT 9
This is from the T.O. Of course it was never used but it was in the T.O. and I can accept this as a what if model. I certainly wouldn't paint a real F-106 in this scheme for public display. Enjoy! Mark  |
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Post by Trigger on Jan 10, 2006 13:57:26 GMT 9
I do plan on building the late 60s version of the 456th jet; I've already got the decals for it!  Regarding a "what if," I assembled this yesterday. The first two are a couple of sketches for 151st FIS, TN ANG had they traded in their F-104As for F-106s. Below those two are Compass Ghost Gray versions of the same markings, circa mid 1980s. And on the final one, I asked what an F-106 deployed to Vietnam just to kill MiGs might have looked like.  I didn't do anything more modern that these, as when I'm planning a "what-if" involving a real aircraft, I like to keep it within the known lifespan of the aircraft. Update: Thanks Mark for that SEA guide! I figured the Air Force had a scheme for it, they just never actually used it. I'll have to do a color sketch just to see what that'll look like. Hmm... I may have to get a fifth -106!!!! Thanks again!  |
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Post by Mark O on Jan 10, 2006 14:14:55 GMT 9
I just about hit the floor just now when I saw those 151 FIS markings! As most of the guys here know I'm an old Army guy and went USAF in 2000. The unit I joined was the 134th Air Refueling Wing - parent unit of the 151st!!!
Yep, I a Vol! An old Tennessee ANG guy! Mom and Dad still live up the road a bit from McGhee-Tyson.
Your 151 FIS profiles hve got me thinking now! I have to do one like that!
Mark
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Post by Mark O on Jan 10, 2006 14:35:35 GMT 9
I just noticed something on the TNANG what-if profiles. You have the tail number wrong. The number under the 'AF' should be the last two numbers of the year - '56' - not '60'. That would make it a 1960 model and 459 was a 1956 model.
Mark
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Post by Trigger on Jan 10, 2006 21:33:42 GMT 9
Yup, I live just a couple of hours down I75 from Knoxville. I know ICBMs rendered manned fighters defending Oak Ridge obsolete, but I had to see what a home state Six would look like. I asked myself, "What if after Khrushchev pulled those missile out of Cuba, he sold Castro some long range bombers? Then there might have been a need for manned interceptors in Tennessee." Some of the inital sketches had big, full-orange tails or bands on the tail. I even used the correct Volunteer orange, PMS 151, but it still looked kind of watered down. However the state flag allows for some cool interpretations, which is what I tried out here. Anyway, are you still with the 134th ARW?
Oh yeah, I figured my use of the tail number wasn't completely accurate. Right now, that's just on there for placement only (FPO) until I decide what direction I'll focus on, but thanks for the correction!
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Post by pat perry on Jan 10, 2006 23:55:02 GMT 9
Whoa Trigger! (I'll bet Roy Rogers used to say that a lot), :lol:
First time I've had to scroll sideways to read a post in a long time. Must be the wide pictures? Maybe Pat McGee can determine if this is a page margin adjustment or maybe some command could be used that would make all pictures scale down to fit the margins?
Very nice job on the TN paint job! I was raised in Memphis and the wife and I would like to move to East Tn some day near Maryville (pronounced Mar-vil by the locals). We live in the DFW area now and I'm trying to help the Tyler Air Museum get one of the last two Sixes left at AMARC.
I heard the old Memphis Belle B-17 is now in a building after being restored for about the 5th time from vandalism and weather damage. Unfortunately, the DFW area just lost the B-36 that has been here for many years. It was also just restored and they were trying to get a building to keep her in but I guess the local city government just wouldn't go along on the money. Now she sits at the Pima Museum in Tucson.
Would have been really neat if the TN Guard had Sixes! This design looks great so it gets my vote for a "what if" paint job.
Where can we find pics of the other models you have built? Do you have them on a web site somewhere?
Pat Perry
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Post by Trigger on Jan 11, 2006 1:15:20 GMT 9
LOL! Yup, no one calls it "Maryville" - it's pronounced mare-vil all right! I'll start posting pix once two things happen: 1. I configure a photo album page. No big deal since I've got a .mac account and they're all templates. I'll do this after the following happens... 2. I have some finished models that I think are worth putting on public display! ;D The whole house search and subsequent move shut down The Factory for months.  The helicopters are still on hold since they're 1:35 and will need resin AM details. In the meantime, I'm breaking out some of my 1:48 and 1:72 fast-movers and using the kitchen table as a temporary factory floor. The F-106 kits will be easy and quick to assemble. If only had the kind of free time I had when I was a kid... Trust me, the ADC gray jets WON'T have panel shading! And I'm a little surprised no one has said anything about the Ghost Gray or Gray/White schemes. LOL! Following the "if you don't have anything nice to say..." philosophy?  |
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Post by Jim on Jan 11, 2006 1:31:35 GMT 9
HEY MC GEEP FIX THIS DAMN THING BEFORE ME FRIEND (THE OTHER PATRICK) AN I BE A FIGUREIN SOME SORT OF REVENGE...TIS NO FUN OR PLEASURE HAVIN TO BE A SCROLLIN BACK AN FORTH.........ME BROTHER THINKS TENN (NOTE- NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT) IS FINE HE LIVES IN NORMANDY, TENN......THE ANG PAINT JOB LOOKS OUTSTANDING- JUST BE SURE TO BE LEAVING THE TAC "TRAVELIN AIR CIRCUS" EMBLEM IN THE BOTTOM OF THE TRASH CAN- UNDER THE COFFEE GROUNDS ;D ;D......   ::)FER YE IF YE BE DOINME THAT WEE FAVOR.........The Old Sarge |
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Post by Trigger on Jan 11, 2006 2:38:08 GMT 9
Dropped the resolution of the preview. By now, people have seen it at HiRes, so there's no point in keeping such a large preview up there. I thought that it would resize to a preview mode in the thread, but obviously I thought wrong. If anyone still wants to see a HiRes version, shoot me a message and I'll pass along a copy. In the future, I'll limit the large previews only to areas of the plane artwork applies to (Tail, nose, etc.)
So... No TAC huh? LOL.. not sure I'm gonna want to make that SEA scheme sketch now! I just got back here and I'm having a good time, I'd hate to get run off so soon!
Man, I really need to get an avatar set up...
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Post by pat perry on Jan 11, 2006 3:51:46 GMT 9
Dropped the resolution of the preview. By now, people have seen it at HiRes, so there's no point in keeping such a large preview up there. I thought that it would resize to a preview mode in the thread, but obviously I thought wrong. Hey Trigger, You are pretty handy with that Mac! Here's where I keep some pics of stuff. The Old Sarge (Jim) has an album here of his clock building handiwork. community.webshots.com/user/popperryHe has built clocks to support fund-raising efforts for many a worthy causes including saving F-106s from the "boneyard". His latest project is in support of a P-51 restoration honoring the Tuskeegee Airmen. Old Sarge, you need to take progress pictures on this one - I have a feeling that there's a great story that could be told in a magazine leading up to the 2006 Wings of Freedom Air Show. Trigger, You said putting those sixes together was pretty quick. I built a 1:48 scale and it was like putting socks on a rooster! You must have a lot steadier hand then I. Later, Pat 456th FIS |
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Post by Trigger on Jan 11, 2006 5:17:54 GMT 9
Trigger, You said putting those sixes together was pretty quick. I built a 1:48 scale and it was like putting socks on a rooster! You must have a lot steadier hand then I. LMAO!!!! Aw, crap! Murphy's Law is gonna kick in now that I said something and these builds are gonna turn out to be Charlie Foxtrots! Oh yeah, that was reeeeal smooth of me! |
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Post by Mark O on Jan 11, 2006 9:10:33 GMT 9
TN ANG: 2000-2001, 134 ARW McGhee-Tyson ANGB OH ANG: 2001-2003, 121 ARW Rickenbacker ANGB USAF Active Duty: 2003-Present, 319 ARW Grand Forks AFB Before that US Army, Army National Guard, Army Individual Ready Reserve. Might go Navy after this enlistment!! Nah, just kidding! Mark |
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Post by Trigger on Jan 11, 2006 21:25:01 GMT 9
Only a year in the 'ville? Why'd ya leave so soon? I know parking up there can get pretty frustrating in the fall, but was it that bad?
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Post by Jim on Jan 12, 2006 11:23:48 GMT 9
So... No TAC huh? LOL.. not sure I'm gonna want to make that SEA scheme sketch now! I just got back here and I'm having a good time, I'd hate to get run off so soon! .. Trigger me lad, we be havin a fine time too....., but that flamin toad sticker o the " Travelin Air Circus", has no real place on the SIX, all it did was hasten the demise of a fine a/c .......I would be a buildin one o them a/c, but it would have to have the 27th FIS scheme, and as how I did the first 10 of them full scale, I don't think want to be a tryin 1:48 with out decals.  If them WEEENNNNIES don't start retaliatin, ;D ;D ;D ;D for ye Trigger, an may ye get Convair-San Diego up an runnin in its own area soon  the Old Sarge |
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Post by Trigger on Jan 12, 2006 23:51:55 GMT 9
Thanks Jim! To you too! I went down to the Batcave last night and pulled up a bunch of kits, including three F-106s. "Convair San Diego" will open up some time this weekend. BTW - has anyone seen where I put that assembled fuselage, wings and exhaust? |
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The helicopters are still on hold since they're 1:35 and will need resin AM details. In the meantime, I'm breaking out some of my 1:48 and 1:72 fast-movers and using the kitchen table as a temporary factory floor. The F-106 kits will be easy and quick to assemble. If only had the kind of free time I had when I was a kid...
::)FER YE IF YE BE DOINME THAT WEE FAVOR.........The Old Sarge
