|
Post by pat perry on Mar 16, 2010 9:31:50 GMT 9
We've all had at least one assignment that made us feel this way. Thanks to 456th Pilot Barney Barnes for forwarding this.
You Can Leave The Military, But It Never Really Leaves You The Charlestown Post and Courier Thursday, March 4, 2010
Occasionally, I venture back out to the air base where I'm greeted by an imposing security guard who looks carefully at my identification card, hands it back and says, "Have a good day, tech sergeant."
Every time I go back onto Charleston Air Force Base it feels good to be called by my previous rank, but odd to be in civilian clothes, walking among the servicemen and servicewomen going about their duties as I once did, years ago.
The military, for all its flaws, is a comfort zone for anyone who has ever worn the uniform. It's a place where you know the rules and know they are enforced. A place where everybody is busy but not too busy to take care of business.
Because there exists behind the gates of every military facility an institutional understanding of respect, order, uniformity, accountability and dedication that becomes part of your marrow and never, ever leaves you.
Personally, I miss the fact that you always knew where you stood in the military, and who you were dealing with. That's because you could read somebody's uniform from 20 feet away and know the score.
Service personnel wear their careers on their sleeves, so to speak. When you approach each other, you can read their name tag, examine their rank and, if they are in dress uniform, read their ribbons and know where they've served.
I miss all those little things you take for granted when you're in the ranks, like breaking starch on a set of fatigues fresh from the laundry and standing in a perfectly straight line that looks like a mirror as it stretches to the endless horizon.
I miss the sight of troops marching in the early morning mist, the sound of boot heels thumping in unison on the sidewalks, the bark of sergeants and the sing-song answers from the squads as they pass by in review.
To romanticize military service is to be far removed from its reality, because it's very serious business, especially in times of war.
But I miss the salutes I'd throw at officers and the crisp returns as we crisscrossed on the flight line.
I miss the smell of jet fuel hanging heavily on the night air and the sound of engines roaring down runways and disappearing into the clouds.
I even miss the hurry-up-and-wait mentality that enlisted men gripe about constantly, a masterful invention that bonded people more than they'll ever know or admit.
I miss people taking off their hats when they enter a building, speaking directly and clearly to others and never showing disrespect for rank, race, religion or gender.
Mostly I miss being a small cog in a machine so complex it constantly circumnavigates the Earth and so simple it feeds everyone on time, three times a day, on the ground, in the air or at sea.
Mostly, I don't know anyone who has served who regrets it, and doesn't feel a sense of pride when they pass through those gates and re-enter the world they left behind with their youth.
Pat P.
:us_flag
|
|
|
Post by steve201 (deceased) on Mar 16, 2010 11:16:05 GMT 9
nope....and a civilian will never understand it...I work with both vets and non-vets....when we get to rambling about the ole AF days...the civilians listen but just don't get it....you can always tell......and it's fun to watch them not get it.....
no matter the service...it's the same....I miss it too..
Steve
|
|
Bullhunter
Global Moderator
318th FIS Jet Shop 1975-78
Currently: Offline
Posts: 7,451
Location:
Joined: May 2005
|
Post by Bullhunter on Mar 16, 2010 12:14:14 GMT 9
I does feel good each time I visit Banger Naval Subase and McChord Air Force Base and the gate guard (Contract Rented Security) checks my ID and welcomes me by rank. Then tells me to have a nice day. I always return the greating by saying "Stay Safe". Then its to the BX and/or Commassary. Shopping there looks and feels much different that Wal-Mart or SafeWay. People are nicer and politer. It's true, those that have not served just do not get it. They don't have a clue, what they have missed. My trips to McChord AFB usually always end with a drive out to the observation hill by the museums air park. Just have to scope out the flightline I used to work.
|
|
|
Post by jimpadgett on Mar 16, 2010 22:28:42 GMT 9
Truer words are seldom spoken. I miss it too. Feather merchants have no idea how much an advantage you have on those who have never served. Thanks, Pat, for sharing something that puts it into words.
|
|
Jim Scanlon (deceased)
Senior Staff
FORUM CHAPLAIN
Commander South Texas outpost of the County Sligo Squadron
Currently: Offline
Posts: 5,075
Location:
Joined: July 2007
Retired: USAF NBA: Spurs NFL: Niners MLB: Giants NHL: Penguins
|
Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Mar 17, 2010 1:21:57 GMT 9
After I retired on 1 February 1972, I began an experience that has been and still is a good one.
We began going to the nearest, and sometimes not the nearest, Air Force base to shop at the BX and Commissary. We also have had most of our prescriptions filled at bases, and, while we still could, used the medical services for our doctor appointments.
It has always been a great time for us. Like going home. We always feel comfortable on base and enjoy being there.
We live about twenty miles from Randolph and that is where we do our shopping. We do some minor shopping at local grocery stores and Walmart. But they are nothing like the base experience.
It is a rare trip to the Commissary, when we don't stop to talk to some other shoppers. Hardly ever know them, but we know we are family. We even enjoy visiting with the checkers and baggers. It is a rare experience when we talk to people in the local grocery stores. People just don't seem to want to talk.
The other store we shop that approaches the base experience is Costco. The Costco we shop is 5 miles from Randolph and there are always lots of people in uniform doing the Costco thing.
We have been where it was a 4 hour trip to Malmstrom. But we often would spend the night in the base lodge and then hit the commissary in the morning before heading home.
I know some don't think they really save by shopping the Commissary, but we have found that we save a good bit. Sure, on those 4 hour trips to Malmstrom we may have spent more for gas than we saved.
However, there was more to it than just shopping. It was going to our "home away from home" to visit.
When it is ID card time or some other visit when we need to go to an office, we have been treated like family. Try that at City Hall.
We will continue to use base facilities as long as we can, and enjoy the visits.
Jim Too
:god_bless_usa
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Mar 17, 2010 1:32:41 GMT 9
That is why I wear the OLD AF patch on my hat, and when I see an old timer or a youngster who has his hands cupped as if he was carrying something, (I use to give some of the recruits a piece of broomhandle to carry to get them to properly hold their hands while marching..) I give them as a sharp a salute as an old fart with artheritis can give. Even better is the smile and return salute......... Just as when I use the hand salute at meetings when the Pledge of Alligence is given..... BTW all veterans are authorized to render the hand saulte when the flag is presented, when the Nat. Anthem is sung and of course for the pledge.... The connection is made everyday here in the forum, whether we agree with each other or not.....Of course we have an aircraft as a binder, but it would be the same without it.......... The Old Sarge
|
|
Bullhunter
Global Moderator
318th FIS Jet Shop 1975-78
Currently: Offline
Posts: 7,451
Location:
Joined: May 2005
|
Post by Bullhunter on Mar 17, 2010 7:45:39 GMT 9
Posted by Jim:
My USAF hat is like my visa card, always goes with me. :salute
|
|
|
Post by Gene on Mar 20, 2010 16:49:26 GMT 9
9 March 1948 - There is no documented official rationale for the design of the present USAF enlisted chevrons, except the minutes of a meeting held at the Pentagon on 9 March 1948, chaired by General Hoyt S. Vandenberg, Air Force Chief of Staff. These minutes reveal that chevron designs were sampled at Bolling Air Force Base and the style used today was selected by 55% of 150 airmen polled. General Vandenberg therefore approved the choice of the enlisted majority.
Whoever designed the stripes might have been trying to combine the shoulder patch worn by members of the Army Air Force (AAF) during World War II and the insignia used on aircraft. The patch featured wings with a pierced star in the center while the aircraft insignia was a star with two bars. The stripes might be the bars from the aircraft insignia slanted gracefully upward to suggest wings. The silver grey color contrasts with the blue uniform and might suggest clouds against blue sky
|
|
|
Post by jimpadgett on Mar 20, 2010 21:59:54 GMT 9
Good analogy. I could live with the addition of the roof of the structure (E-8/E-9), but I don't like the later addition of another layer of shingles on the roof and the removal of part of the foundation. Chief TSgt? Oh well.
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Mar 21, 2010 0:43:02 GMT 9
Good analogy. I could live with the addition of the roof of the structure (E-8/E-9), but I don't like the later addition of another layer of shingles on the roof and the removal of part of the foundation. Chief TSgt? Oh well. I agree, Jim...... I was actually prouder of putting on those six stripes in '69 than I was of the 7th in '75, and it didn't bother me to turn in my line number for Chief and take my retirement... (I had my orders within a week of putting on E8). I think that it took 6 years to put on that 7th stripe is what detracted from the promotion..... But in either case, I never wore the miniature stripes, and would have preferred them to go from elbow to shoulder... And I still don't like the look of the new blues, nor the US without the circle....But the light blue shirt, blue trousers and a tie look sharp.......... AND to hell with the AF wearing that damn French hat called a beret.... The Old Sarge
|
|
|
Post by Mark O on Mar 21, 2010 1:33:55 GMT 9
... nor the US without the circle.... We actually got the circle back around 2006 as I remember. Oh, we got the Good Conduct Medal back just over a year ago too. Not sure if we'll get the blues jacket back to a military look or not. (You know, four buttons, four pockets, etc.) Mark :e7new ("Senior TSgt")
|
|
Bullhunter
Global Moderator
318th FIS Jet Shop 1975-78
Currently: Offline
Posts: 7,451
Location:
Joined: May 2005
|
Post by Bullhunter on Mar 21, 2010 1:42:15 GMT 9
I hated it when the USAF dumped the green fatigues and went to BDU uniform. They are too costly and you don't need camo while working on an aircraft. Only positive about the green camo BDU for manchanics is that it helps to hid stains. We also had light weight white coveralls and in a hot climate they were wonderful. That is like the Navy and their new camo BDU. Why do you need camo on a submarine? I see these new navy BDUs everywhere on Banger Subase. The common comment when the USAF went to the blue shirt and pants was it made you look like a mailman. As for me I missed the tan 1505's. Most of all I can't stand that new USAF emblum that looks like Japaneese folding paper artcraft. Give me the old USAF wings that brought us through all the years and wars.
|
|
Jim Scanlon (deceased)
Senior Staff
FORUM CHAPLAIN
Commander South Texas outpost of the County Sligo Squadron
Currently: Offline
Posts: 5,075
Location:
Joined: July 2007
Retired: USAF NBA: Spurs NFL: Niners MLB: Giants NHL: Penguins
|
Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Mar 21, 2010 2:25:43 GMT 9
The 505s and 1505s were neat looking Summer uniforms. The light weight blues, the ones that looked like a military uniform, were good looking and easy to maintain.
The "old" heavy, wool, blues were nice in cold climates, but not where it rained. They got so heavy you could hardly walk when they were wet. The old "Blue Horse Blanket" overcoat was a really heavy, and if it got wet, you may as well just stand still, as it got so heavy you couldn't move.
I do not like BDUs, no matter the color pattern or style. They look stupid for flight line or office wear. Let alone submarines.
What ever happened to the Garrison hat? Seems all I see, except for honor guards, is the Field cap. It's easy to wear, and easy to put in your pocket, but doesn't go with the dress blues.
When I made Tech, the Air Force and Navy still had the "Top Four" system. From E-6 to E-9, we all had the same perks. Now Tech is mid level NCO.
I have a ball cap with the "new" AF insignia, but prefer the one with the "Hap Arnold" insignia. That insignia looks real.The new one, looks like something designed for a video game.
At Randolph the hangers all have the Hap Arnold insignia painted on each end. They look great.
I think the military should stop trying to please some PR firm in NYC and get the military, and the Air Force back to looking like the military and not some doorman's associatin.
I absolutely despise the French looking beret. It was fine for the Army Special Forces to wear. If, that is, they wanted to look like the French Foreign Legion. But for all of the Army and creeping in to the Air Force?
NO!
When I see some military member wearing a beret, I wonder why they don't have a bottle of wine, a long loaf of bread and painting gear. Military caps, hats and unit ball caps. Not all the PC stuff.
Jim Too
:god_bless_usa
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Mar 21, 2010 9:11:40 GMT 9
The old air force wings patch can be found both original and replicas with not much difficulty or cost, so I suggest getting one, and sewing it onto your hat yourself. People will no doubt be asking where you got it!!! I wouldn't wear the new "Japanese origami" hat either! I don't wear an Air Force hat all the time because I feel like I must be held to a higher standard of behavior. If I flip someone the bird, all they will remember is the old guy in the Air force hat! I wear one sometimes but not all the time! I too have one of the oragami bird flower hats that just collects dust..........I had a hat with the seal on it that I sewed the Hap A. patch on............ By the way that old insignia was approved in 1923.............. I wear mine all the time to induce me to keep from giving the one finger salute, which in Az generally will start road rage, and I don't look good with bullet holes............ The Old Sarge You can find those patches and the old rank pins, along with a lot of other stuff at SoldierCity. com
|
|
|
Post by lindel on Mar 21, 2010 22:58:47 GMT 9
I don't like the new logo either, looks like crap to me. As far as my old squadron cap, I wore it out long ago, one of these days, I'll get a new one made up.
I will say this about the BDUs. They're comfortable. I had to wear them when I was in the Air Guard. Since I was in Combat Comm at the time, they made good sense. Working/Living in the woods, it was easier not to be seen. And yes, they hide stains very well. I have and wear a camo field jacket when the temps are about 20 and above.
I still like the old cotton fatigues with the blue patches/stipes. Made us stand out and no confusion about which service we were in.
|
|