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Post by Gene on Mar 14, 2010 4:22:08 GMT 9
Hello Neighbor: In 2009, NORAD launched fighter aircraft on 14 occasions in response to unannounced flights of Russian Tu-95 Bear and Tu-160 Blackjack bombers that were in international airspace, but were close enough to US and Canadian airspace to warrant a closer look, Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart, NORAD boss, told the Senate Armed Services Committee Thursday in written testimony. He said they "were not considered threats," but it is NORAD's practice to dispatch fighters to identify any unknown aircraft in such scenarios. In response to a Senator's question during the hearing, Renuart said there have also been "a couple of instances" so far in 2010, when Russian bombers have flown close to US airspace in the Aleutians. But he reiterated: "Nothing is threatening us. Their aviators act professionally." After years of dormancy, the Russians resumed these long-range "training flights" over the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans several years ago. (Renuart's prepared remarks)
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Post by Bullhunter on Mar 14, 2010 7:29:53 GMT 9
They have also over flown U.S. Naval Aircraft Carriers a few times.
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Post by Gene on Mar 15, 2010 7:11:39 GMT 9
 its funny how thier planes look a lot like our planes!! |
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Mar 15, 2010 11:44:22 GMT 9
Bullhuntrer said:
During World War Two the u.s. sent some Lend Lease airplanes to the USSR, for their war effort against Nazi Germany.
One type was the C-47. It wasn't long and the USSR was building clones of the Douglas C-47, and put some Soviet moniker on it. Lisunov Li-2.
Later in the war, a B-29 diverted to Siberia after bombing Japan. The USSR kept the plane while they negotiated the release of the crew back to the U.S. Forces.
The crew was eventually returned, but the B-29 wasn't. Nor were any of the other B-29s that landed in Siberia.
Soon there were clones of Boeing B-29 aircraft rolling off a Soviet assembly line. Tupolev Tu-4.
To the best of my knowledge, no B-1, B-70 or F-22, has made an emergency landing in the USSR or Russia.
So, I wonder where they are getting their plans.
Yep, they sure do make their planes look a lot like ours.
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Post by dude on Mar 15, 2010 12:13:24 GMT 9
Bullhuntrer said: So, I wonder where they are getting their plans.  Popular Mechanics. |
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Post by Gene on Mar 15, 2010 14:44:01 GMT 9
"To the best of my knowledge, no B-1, B-70 or F-22, has made an emergency landing in the USSR or Russia. "
not to mention our C-5....
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Post by soc on Mar 15, 2010 15:39:32 GMT 9
The Tu-160 kinda ended up looking like the B-1A on accident. The winning design was put forth by Myasischev as the M-18, but they weren't believed to have the infrastructure available for a large-scale production program. It looked like a slimmer Tu-160, with a conventional tail and a slightly different engine arrangement. Tupolev's losing design was based on the Tu-144 SST. The M-18 was then farmed out to Tupolev for refinement and production, as they had the facilities for a large and complex pogram like this. They messed around with the design a bit, and came up with the Tu-160. If you've seen the design evolution from the initial Myasischev and Tupolev concepts through to the final Tu-160, it makes sense, and while being similar (albeit way bigger) to the Bone, the BLACKJACK is certainly not a copy. The same thing is evident in Tupolev's SST research, showing how the Tu-144 was not simply a Concorde rip-off either.
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Post by jimpadgett on Mar 15, 2010 23:11:01 GMT 9
Well they stole the plans for the YC-14 and built it, but didn't have the metals technology to replicate the blown flaps. Wonder if Boeing still has the prototype.
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Post by jimpadgett on Mar 15, 2010 23:17:45 GMT 9
Hello Neighbor: In 2009, NORAD launched fighter aircraft on 14 occasions in response to unannounced flights of Russian Tu-95 Bear and Tu-160 Blackjack bombers that were in international airspace, but were close enough to US and Canadian airspace to warrant a closer look, Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart, NORAD boss, told the Senate Armed Services Committee Thursday in written testimony. He said they "were not considered threats," but it is NORAD's practice to dispatch fighters to identify any unknown aircraft in such scenarios. In response to a Senator's question during the hearing, Renuart said there have also been "a couple of instances" so far in 2010, when Russian bombers have flown close to US airspace in the Aleutians. But he reiterated: "Nothing is threatening us. Their aviators act professionally." After years of dormancy, the Russians resumed these long-range "training flights" over the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans several years ago. (Renuart's prepared remarks) Nothing like the intercept numbers in the '60s,'70s, '80s and '90s from Iceland and Alaska not to speak of those from the CONUS. Fourteen would represent a hard days work from Iceland, I know. Mostly Bears and Bisons. |
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Post by Gene on Mar 16, 2010 3:51:32 GMT 9
Well they stole the plans for the YC-14 and built it, but didn't have the metals technology to replicate the blown flaps. Wonder if Boeing still has the prototype. are you talking about the transport about the '76 era?? |
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Post by dude on Mar 16, 2010 5:11:54 GMT 9
Well they stole the plans for the YC-14 and built it, but didn't have the metals technology to replicate the blown flaps. Wonder if Boeing still has the prototype. are you talking about the transport about the '76 era?? Had to be '76 era. That's when they flew it into Langley to show the TAC brass. I remember it being bigger than a 130 but smaller than today's C-17. But their STOL demo really got your attention. |
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Post by steve201 (deceased) on Mar 16, 2010 7:05:07 GMT 9
those copied B29's even had the boeing logo's on the peddles and yoke....funny when i heard that one..
Steve
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Post by Gene on Mar 16, 2010 9:26:41 GMT 9
are you talking about the transport about the '76 era?? Had to be '76 era. That's when they flew it into Langley to show the TAC brass. I remember it being bigger than a 130 but smaller than today's C-17. But their STOL demo really got your attention. i was there for its first flight...A.F. didn't use that photo for thier release, but it made the back cover of the SKYWATCH magazine at mcchord... it was a fun day.. |
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