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Post by cc790 on Feb 27, 2010 1:39:37 GMT 9
I found this in my toolbox this morning. I also found the special ends to run the vari ramps by hand.
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Post by Jim on Feb 27, 2010 2:03:06 GMT 9
I found this in my toolbox this morning. I also found the special ends to run the vari ramps by hand. What you have there my friend is a Gonney Bird tool (we also used them on T-6, P-51,L-20,T-33,F-80 and F-86 to mention a few), made by the Duz Fastener Co. Used to open panels using Duz fasteners to secure them.., also worked on AirLoc fasteners... and helped prevent barked knuckles when opening fuel tank caps, yep, thats right I said fuel tank caps in the days before single point refueling.......................Did you use the vari ramp tools with air or by hand?  ? One way would, or could destroy the synchro shaft between upper and lower drives which would crack the hinge points. When did you join this wind force to get one of those tools?........ How about the dangerous nylon flight suits they got rid of by letting crew chiefs wear them on the flightline as coveralls- (yeah, at George in July) you around then too????The Old Sarge |
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Post by cc790 on Feb 27, 2010 2:27:14 GMT 9
I found this in my toolbox this morning. I also found the special ends to run the vari ramps by hand. What you have there my friend is a Gonney Bird tool (we also used them on T-6, P-51,L-20,T-33,F-80 and F-86 to mention a few), made by the Duz Fastener Co. Used to open panels using Duz fasteners to secure them.., also worked on AirLoc fasteners... and helped prevent barked knuckles when opening fuel tank caps, yep, thats right I said fuel tank caps in the days before single point refueling.......................Did you use the vari ramp tools with air or by hand? ? One way would, or could destroy the synchro shaft between upper and lower drives which would crack the hinge points. When did you join this wind force to get one of those tools?........ How about the dangerous nylon flight suits they got rid of by letting crew chiefs wear them on the flightline as coveralls- (yeah, at George in July) you around then too????The Old Sarge I must have been given the Duz All by the T-33 guys. We used to take two ships to Canada on weekends. The T-33's would fly our oil samples back to the 'Not for burning. Now the ramps. It's been a loooong time... If memeory serves we would run them by hand while rigging. There was an upper and lower actuator??? and we had to ensure they were in sync. Sorry sarge, I didn't know there was an eval today! :scratch_head |
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Post by Jim on Feb 27, 2010 3:25:19 GMT 9
Memory serves me right, there was an upper and lower gearbox that was driven by a flex shaft from an actuator because it is almost impossible to synchronize 2 motors, air or electric.......... And for the life of me, can't remember whether it was air or electric............. The Old Sarge
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Post by marv2 on Feb 27, 2010 4:00:16 GMT 9
Where did hydralic's come in regarding the vari ramps, as an instrument toad we had to check them with the TTU-205, (Pitot Static tester), and vari ramp tester. Out at a certain time, in at a certain time, then had to shut down the hydralic mule and emergency blow them shut, hydralic fluid blew out the ports just below the intakes. Then we had to cycle the vari ramps many times to make sure air was out of the lines. Was the motor a hydralic one?
cc790 I went to the T Bird flight when the 6's left, spent a total of close to 10 years in 5 FIS.
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Post by cc790 on Feb 27, 2010 4:00:25 GMT 9
The pieces are falling into place... It was electrically driven. I believe there was an air flask to "blow" the ramps in in an emergency.
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Post by cc790 on Feb 27, 2010 4:03:21 GMT 9
Where did hydralic's come in regarding the vari ramps, as an instrument toad we had to check them with the TTU-205, (Pitot Static tester), and vari ramp tester. Out at a certain time, in at a certain time, then had to shut down the hydralic mule and emergency blow them shut, hydralic fluid blew out the ports just below the intakes. Then we had to cycle the vari ramps many times to make sure air was out of the lines. Was the motor a hydralic one? cc790 I went to the T Bird flight when the 6's left, spent a total of close to 10 years in 5 FIS. Your right Marv. Normal ops they were hydraulic. Between you, me and the Old Sarge, we'll get it figured out! |
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Post by Jeff Shannon on Feb 27, 2010 4:40:11 GMT 9
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Feb 27, 2010 4:47:33 GMT 9
Somewhere in one of my boxes is a DuzAll. I'm not sure it is the one I got in 1953, or a later one.
That tool was one you couldn't do without on the "old" planes.
Like Jim One said, it was used to open fuel caps, panels, take rocks out of tyre tread, and punch holes in oil cans. Pretty handy tool.
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Post by cc790 on Feb 27, 2010 5:03:42 GMT 9
It sure did come in handy. I used it on F-15's during hurricane evacuations from Tyndall. Hey Jeff, I never thought of it as a special tool. Can you imagine the damage I could cause to my wifes F-16?  |
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Post by bear (Deceased) on Sept 13, 2010 21:04:05 GMT 9
I belive the ramps wererun by hdy motor if they were run electric you would not need the to hdy pressure. I know for a fact when the intake covers were installed and the ramp were extended lots of noise and upset sheet metal troops, not that I ever did thatmore than once.
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Post by sixerviper on Sept 16, 2010 0:48:56 GMT 9
If MY memory serves me right, as an Instrument Weenie we had to have a mule, electrical power and a CADC cheater switch to extend the ramps. I remember a specific check for the ramps, but don't remember anything much about it except you had to use a TTU-205 (or the old MB-4 manual pitot-static tester) on both the nose and vari-ramp pitot tubes.
I'm almost certain that the ramps were hydraulically driven and electronically controlled by the vari-ramp controller in the data link compartment (aka 05 hole and hell hole).
Gee--it's been almost 38 years since I worked on a Six! Surprised I remember anything about it. :e8new
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At least my first supervisor said they were 
