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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 15, 2009 5:13:35 GMT 9
Yes they work fine for me.
I looked under WA State and viewed the F-86D my team recovered from Arlington AP, WA and restored at McChord AFB Museum.
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Dec 15, 2009 5:59:06 GMT 9
Thanks for the Saber site, Duy.
Lots of pictures of every type of Saber. Some in pretty bad shape, but some look like new.
There are still a number that are flying. However, it is very expensive to maintain them and fly them.
Jim Too
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Post by steve201 (deceased) on Dec 15, 2009 9:24:37 GMT 9
I know there is a Canadian Sabres up in sidney on stick in a war park....looks to be in fair shape...
Steve
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Post by Gene on Dec 15, 2009 16:10:42 GMT 9
whats the different mods for the different noses...the mod at the air park at mcchord has the larger nose than the ones i see flying on the history channel...
at hickam in '61 they had one on a stand when you drove in off the nimitz hyway.. and they had one sitting on its belly in a play ground back the back gate... i used to crawl all over that...it was the best toy in the place...
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 16, 2009 2:45:32 GMT 9
The one at McChord is a D model. That is one of the reasons we wanted it so bad. D Models were assigned to McChord. It has radar and a missile rack the comes in and out of the forward belly.
History Channel usually show F-86's during the Korean War.
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Dec 16, 2009 8:39:36 GMT 9
The F86 A, E & F had the same size intake. These all had a J47 engine.
The H model had a bigger hole in the nose. The H had a J73. A larger engine, with much more thrust. So, it needed a bigger intake.
The D, L and Ks all had J47s with burners, and the smiling mouth intake under the radome.
The K was an export model with 4 20mm cannons in the belly.
The D and L had 24 2.75" FFAR rockets in a pod in the belly.
Jim Too
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Post by Gene on Dec 16, 2009 15:48:00 GMT 9
i really dug those movies back in the '50's about korea... the '86 was the sweetest jet out there...
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Post by Jim on Dec 17, 2009 1:32:09 GMT 9
The 86 pictured is a Candaire Mark lV, about a '54-55 model
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Post by Bullhunter on Jan 18, 2010 16:55:36 GMT 9
These jets i took photo of at Flensberg German Air Base. I was told that they were often used to tow targets. they sure look much like the F-86's. That is what caught my attention. Anyone know what they are? Photo taken about 1980
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Jan 19, 2010 6:45:13 GMT 9
Those are German Fiat G91 fighters.
They were made by Messerschmidt, along with other companies in Europe.
It was probably the first "EruoFighter".
It was subsonic and carried cannons and bombs.
You can Google it and find all the specs.
Not a very big bird, but effective.
Flew in various air forces from 1958 - 1995.
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Post by pat perry on Jan 21, 2014 10:20:38 GMT 9
Here is an interesting publication sent by George Magnor via Joe Sylvia, our favorite Convair Rep. Subject: Yuma & F-86 weapons The file is a 2.25 meg download of a PDF file of Sabre Jet Classics Magazine from Fall 1999 sabre-pilots.org/pdf/sjc73.pdf Lots of info & photos of the early days at Yuma. Of special interest is an article that I extracted co-written by our own ADC Historian, Marty Isham. Check the F-86D tail flashes and note two of them are the 456th FIS.
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Jan 21, 2014 12:38:15 GMT 9
Very interesting, Pat.
I spent a lot of time at Yuma with the 14th FIS and the 13th FIS, both from The SCAB.
There is a picture of a Saberdog from the 13th, whilst at Selfrige.
When the squadron designator was sent to The SCAB, it replaced the 519th FIS designator, and we kept the same planes, pilots and ground crews.
At The SCAB a Snorting Bull was painted on the tail, in the middle of a large orange splash, bordered in black.
If you look at the picture of the T-33 at Glasgow Pioneer Museum, you can see what it looked like. www.coastcomp.com/av/pres/Chatfield/52-9564.htm
I don't have any pictures.
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Post by Mark O on Jan 21, 2014 13:18:31 GMT 9
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Post by Bullhunter on Jan 21, 2014 13:23:30 GMT 9
The F-86 at McChord Museum.
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Post by Bullhunter on Jan 21, 2014 13:36:38 GMT 9
The McChord F-86D during recovery from Arlington Airport in northern WA State. F-86D shortly after it was restored. Earl Otto is in the red clothes, he was a F-86 crew chief during his USAF service. I'm in the blue clothes. There was a push to get this F-86D because of a planned F-86 reunion at the base. Also it had been donated to the museum years before and the owner donated to the museum for an IRS write off. Do to some bogus leans against the jet it was never acquired. After the museum director was reassigned and I took over and the owner showed up with his IRS problem I looked into the F-86D problems and got a USAR Reserve JAG Officer who knew WA State Laws to check it out. JAG Officer reported the mechanic leans were null & void. He said, "If you want the jet just go get it." When we showed up to take the jet there was a big conflict, but its a long story. Any of you who ordered my CD book know the story. Attachments:
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Post by pat perry on Jan 24, 2014 0:23:32 GMT 9
Here's a reply from Jerry Santy via Bobski - Pat P.
From: jer.san@cox.net To: Bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 1/22/2014 5:44:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Re: Yuma & F-86 weapons
HOLY COW! this was my first “ unit”.....I was sent to Yuma County Airport in June of 1953, slept in tents, and started the ground work for “ WILLIAM TELL”......Col. James J. Jabara was my f-86 pilot ( I was his radar crew chief). Col. Glen T. Eagleston was one of our test pilots for the first firing program on “ rag “ targets being pulled behind other a/c.
We ran the firing programs until we moved to Tyndall AFB in 1957. Col. Jabara was killed in an auto accident on his way to Tyndall. His daughter was driving the car. We continued the WILLIAM TELL firing competition for many years out of Tyndall. I was sent to Hugh’s A/C company twice during those years. Once from Yuma and then again from Tyndall. The E-9 FCS and the MA-1 Systems were the two schools I attended at Hugh’s.
Reading this link brings back so many wonderful memories of the enlisted troops and the pilots we had in Yuma and Panama City. Boy what a treat this is to bring back so many wonderful memories. And even though I am only two months away from my 80th birthday, and forgetting so many things, I can still remember the full names of all the radar troops I worked with in Yuma. And boy were we delighted to finally get a barracks after living in tents for a year. Jerry E. Santy....Goodyear, AZ. 85395. jer.san@cox.net.
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Post by pat perry on Jan 25, 2014 23:05:25 GMT 9
Message from Bobski - Pat P. All you F86 guys, If you have any F86 info send to Carl. Bobski Thanks for the F-86 newsletter. I would like to ask a favor of those who may have been assigned to 5th FIS during their time with F-86 D. I believe while the unit was stationed in New Jersey. I am looking for photos to archive with www.spittinkittens.comThank you, Carl Contact Carl through the web site listed above Note From 5th FIS page on Wikipedia: In the fall of 1949 the unit moved to McGuire AFB, New Jersey. In August 1955 the 5th FIS designation was transferred to Suffolk County AFB, New York. In the spring of 1957 the unit transitioned into F-102A Delta Daggers.
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