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Post by dude on May 18, 2009 8:55:57 GMT 9
I'm sure we've all been privy at one or more times to a reenlistment speech. Here's the one I got... I was sitting out by a trailer near the guardshack watching the planes being prepped and waiting for the MA-1 truck to pick me up when Major Budinger comes walking up. He sits down next to me. Budinger: "I hear you're getting out." Dude: "Yes Sir. Six weeks and a wake up" Budinger: "Any idea what you're going to do?" Dude: "Yes Sir. I've already been accepted back at college. So I'm going back to finish up." Budinger: "Ok. Sounds like you've got a plan." [He had obviously decided to pass on whatever great reenlistment platitudes he had prepped, and so a few minutes of ackward silence passed as we both gazed out over the flightline. Finally Budinger chimed back in..] Budinger: "You know I really envy you." Dude: "Sir???" [OK not much of an answer, but I honestly couldn't think of one reason why this academy grad, with two tours in Nam flying A-37s, and squadron deputy to the Chief of Maintenance and a career fast tracker would ever envy little ole me.] Budinger: "You know they've trained rhesus monkeys to fly airplanes." Dude: "Huh OK if you say so Sir." Budinger: "But there ain't a single damn monkey out there that can fix one." Dude: "Well Sir I must say. I like your attitude."
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Post by Bullhunter on May 18, 2009 13:38:57 GMT 9
That is pretty damn good. You know he's correct. As I think back the only reenlistment speech I can recall was given to me by my Dad. I really never took much advice my Dad had to give me but I paided attention to his talk when at 6 years I was thinking about getting out as my wife hated the military. He was right. Anyway the military lasted till the end,,,the wife did not. :
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Post by dude on May 18, 2009 21:04:27 GMT 9
Yep and with the advent of all the unmanned aircraft these days, he was somewhat prophetic. I was a lucky one. Met and married the wife at Langley in 1976. She was a blue suiter working in Accounting and Finance. Still going strong. Neither of us stayed for 20, but I think our longevity has a lot to do with being emersed early in a common culture and appreciating the concepts of mission and sacrifice.
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Post by az09 on May 18, 2009 23:14:00 GMT 9
Never had a re-enlistment speech, as it was unnecessary for me as I planned to make it a career anyway.
However, one summer day, my dad and I were working on a roof repair job and Dad had been in a surly mood from the start of the work day. From out of nowhere he turns to me and says, "You know Dan, if I had stayed in the Army after the war I would have had my 20 years in today." Dad was quiet the rest of the day, like he had finally accepted the path he had set out on from years before.
I paused to think, Wow , if Dad had made that decision he would not have met my mom and I wouldn't be here at all. Maybe my soul and essence would have been in another vessel.
Funny how changing one small item in your life has effects in the rest of your life and lives of others.
That was the first deep thought I had in my young teen years.
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Post by Jeff Shannon on May 18, 2009 23:40:19 GMT 9
I was at Griffiss when it came time for me to reenlist, 1st Sgt came by the office one day and said "your enlistment is about up, have you given any thought as to what your going to do?" I just looked him in the eye and said "sure have". We both stood there in an awkward moment, I think I caught him off guard when he finally asked "So what are you going to do?" I told him I had planned to reenlist for 6 years so I would be half way when it came for my next enlistment and I would decide then if I was going to stay in.
Of course as soon as I reenlisted they gave me orders to Luke AFB, I tried to stay but they (who ever "they" were) said No "head west young man, head west"
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Post by Bullhunter on May 19, 2009 2:56:53 GMT 9
az09 said:
“You can’t change the past. Whatever has happened in your life so far – both good and bad – cannot be altered, and all the decisions and events that have made you what you are today are indelibly inscribed in the story of your life.” Billy Graham :god_bless_usa
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Post by az09 on May 19, 2009 5:27:47 GMT 9
Price you really do have to keep post readings in context. Re read how my dad's second guessing would have affected his 3 sons.....
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Post by Bullhunter on May 19, 2009 8:50:08 GMT 9
Yes indeed. Choices people make do have lasting effects and can change history. Had my Dad not had a that night depth problem and went on to Fly B-17's over Europe he might have lost his life. My Brother and I would not be here now nor would my childre.
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on May 19, 2009 12:50:28 GMT 9
:confused Reenlistment speech? None that I ever heard. Guess my years in ADC were pre-speech. All three of my re-enlistments were while in ADC, one at Sioux City and two at Minot. Only had one re-enlistment physical. That one was at Minot. Must have passed. Really memorable. The only swearing in ceremonies I remember were by the squadron adjutant at Sioux City, some other officers both times at Minot. Don't think I missed anything. Except the big bonuses that came along after I was done. We had a maximum of $2,000 total for all twenty-years. Oh, well! Got what was promised. :god_bless_usa
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Post by dude on May 19, 2009 21:14:21 GMT 9
Reenlistment speech? None that I ever heard. Guess my years in ADC were pre-speech. All three of my re-enlistments were while in ADC, one at Sioux City and two at Minot. Only had one re-enlistment physical. That one was at Minot. Must have passed. Really memorable. The only swearing in ceremonies I remember were by the squadron adjutant at Sioux City, some other officers both times at Minot. Don't think I missed anything. Except the big bonuses that came along after I was done. We had a maximum of $2,000 total for all twenty-years. Oh, well! Got what was promised. Yeah Big Blue always came through. After I got out and just before I was to graduate I was approached by the local USAF recruiter. USAF had a program for engineering grads where if you went back in they would first send you to OCS. Then after OCS back to one of three schools of your choice for a masters degree, and after that to a base of your choice. I had no real bad feelings about my time in service, and thought this an option worth looking at. So I did and it became a case of three strikes and your out. My school choices where Purdue, Ohio State and University of Illinois at Urbana. The USAF came back and said, "How do you feel about AFIT?" At the time it wasn't even acredited. Then I told them my base of choice would be Kirtland. I wanted to work in the laser labs. They came back and said, "How do you feel about San Antonion Air Logistics Center?" Finally, I asked them to store my household good while I was at OCS. They came back and said, "We can't do that." I asked why and they said, "Because there's always a chance you might not make it through OCS." That was it for me and I said, "Thanks but no thanks." But I did have the opportunity to go back through the enlistment center again, which was a trip and a separate story in itself.
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Post by Bullhunter on May 20, 2009 0:14:26 GMT 9
Sounds to me like the USAF recruiter was doing a "bait and switch" on you Dude. I believe that is against the law, even for the fed's. Most of my USAF buddies just can't believe my good luck with assignments and duties. Out of Tech School I asked for March AFB, CA. (SAC) I got orders for Norton AFB, CA (MAC) only about 15 - 20 miles apart. The Major Air Command wasn't a big deal. I next (3 years) applied for a Permissive Reassignment to Griffiss AFB, NY and got that. I then applied for a reassignment to McChord AFB, WA and i got orders there. (ADC !) I later asked for Germany and was sent to Sembach Air Base, West Germany. Four years later I asked to return to McChord AFB, WA and sure enough that is what my orders said. I staided there until I retired (1983 thru 1995 = 12 full years) How sweet that 24 year old ride was. At Norton I went TDY here and there in C-141's Griffiss flew on KC-135's McChord flew on T-33's Sembach flew on CH-53 choppers and OV-10A Bronco's My last 12 years back at McChord my wife and i took a C-130 to Hickem, HI. I only went TDY three times on civilian planes and flew once in a C-141B just before I retired. The USAF gave me everything I wanted including 2 college degrees.
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Post by Jim on May 20, 2009 0:50:49 GMT 9
I was a with almost 6 yrs TIG (Yep, made with 3 yrs 2 months service, had reenlisted for Griffiss in 56)... Saw the IKE pay raise, saw the IKE RIF, was denied a waiver of TIG, along with 4 others with APG and Eng AFSC...... So I was getting POd at seeing electronics weeenies getting with less TIS than I had in grade, this plus PROPAY was like a boil on I disagree--------- it hurt every pay day.... Now I had been working with or for one hell of an outstanding CWO since '57 (he was also my hunting and fishing buddy) One day in May '62 he said "Jim we are going fishing for the weekend up at the pond that is north and west of Madawaska..." My reply was , "I've got QC standby this weekend." "That has been taken care of and we will take your canoe- we have to talk." We get up to the pond (now a pond in MAINE is a lake in Arizona) and set up camp and start fly fishing and asked what we were going to talk about, and was told that it wasn't time yet........... That night , after a good meal of brook trout and baked potato......... He lit up his pipe (as did I) and he said" You are up for renlisting next month, what are your plans?" "Don't know, I am tired of the fact that neither APG or Eng has seen a stripe since in early 57 in all of EADF........ While the electronics get propay and all of the promotions" "And the slot I am filling calls for a MSgt ;D ;D" I know, but you also were accepted for OCS twice with out a degree and you turned it down twice- why?" Me- "when I see the A-hole 2nd lts they send us, I knew I didn't want want to be one of them...What does that have to do with getting promoted?" Reply- "It has been held against you the last 2 cycles is why." "So it looks like me and the AF will be parting compay next month if it is always going to count against me......." A lot of talk that night, but no decision made. The next morning we went fishing for breakfast apicture like setting- fog lifting up off the water, a moose eating water lillies so close you could reach out and touch him with the canoe paddle and the trout rising for their breakfast...... Puffing on his pipe he asked "have you given anymore thought about what you are going to do?" Told him I had, and that I came into the AF with the intent to make it a career and that I would stay in. He said , you should make the next cycle which would be selected in Dec and announced in Jan.......... Well, I was one of only 2 apg type in EDAF selected and promoted Feb. The other was in the 75th (I believe) at Dow with F-101Bs.........The same 2 months waiver that I was denied followed me for Msgt and SMSgt..........Met one or two of the WEEEENIES that were promoted ahead of me over the following years- gues they run out of gas after they left ADC.........That was some CWO !!!!!! Generals would fly in and come looking for him, so maybe he had some influence in my promtion- he never would say.........I have never been around a more outstanding man since........ Pat Kyle can attest to that........ The Old Sarge BTW, That CWO's name is John H. Johnston- he was a MSgt before he was 21 and couldn't be commisioned as a 2 lt at the start of WW2- so he served the war as a MSgt and was given his warrant after the war... I had the good fortune to meet him again at Kunsan, Korea when I was there TDY from Misawa on a QC insp trip..................
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Post by dude on May 20, 2009 2:54:39 GMT 9
Bullhunter you may not be too far from the truth. Although I would like to think that my bolting on the good Captain was not a career enhancer for him. Jim, you were very lucky to have a great mentor. As for your impression of officers. Funny you should bring that up because that's the rest of the AFES story I alluded to up top. I wonder how many wish they could go back through AFES a second time knowing what you know now. Well I did. So there I am tripping on into the AFES center. Trotted upstairs to the Air Force office and met the good Captain recruiter. He goes into his file cabinet a pulls out the "Special Folder". The one with "OCS" and "PS" in big letters on it. He says, "This folder entitles you to go to the front of every line. So take this downstairs to the first window." So off I go downstairs, turn left into a hallway, walk past about 30 guys, and put my face in the window manned by an Army corporal. Corporal: "Yeah. What you want?" Me: "I'm prior service going OCS. They told me to come to the front of the line." Corporal: "Not a chance. Get your sorry a__ back in line." So I smiled, turned around and walked back upstairs to the USAF office. Found the Captain and asked, "Do you have a phone down to that Corporal at Station One?" The Captain said he did. So I said, "Then you call that sorry SOB and tell him I'm coming back down, and I better get to the front because if I don't I'm leaving the building and if you want my sorry a--, you're going to have to pay for a private physical." I'm just stepping off the last step coming back down and I see the good Corporal hanging half way out of his cage looking down the hallway for me. "You. You SIR! Come up here PLEASE!". So I got processed by him poste haste and moved on like that through the various checkpoints. First in line everytime. The only thing I remember different than the first time was they took an EKG. So it comes down to the last thing where you sit down with a doctor and go over your history. I come to the area which happens to be an alcove with three offices (one per wall) with a waiting bench outside each office. I notice that two of the benches are jammed packed with enlistees, while the third along the back wall is empty. Well being the good officer candidate that I was, I went to the empty bench. And then SHE came out. Yes it was a lady doctor. OK no big deal. Been there, done that. We just talk my records and I'm done. So in I go and plant it in a chair in front of her desk. She sits down and we start going over my history. At some point she notices the folder, "Oh, your going OCS." "Yes maam, I am." Then she gets this quirky little smile on her face, does a little heh heh and says, "In that case we have to do a rectal exam." Well I couldn't help it. I just bust out laughing. Her smile quickly dissolves into disgust and she says, "What's so damn funny?" I said, "Well maam, you see I'm prior service." She said, "Yes, Yes. Get to it." I said, "Well all us enlisted were pretty well convinced that all officers were a--holes. I just didn't know they had to prove it up front." I'm still chuckling, but she is definitely not amused, "Stand up, turn around and drop em." At that point I realize that I may have made a huge tactical error. So as she is snapping on her rubber gloves, I'm desperately trying to get a glimpse at this woman's hands. She was tall and slender, so I'm hoping against hope. Well I'm sure at our age we've all had this procedure done now a few times. I can't swear to this, but it sure seemed like she had a baseball bat hidden somewhere in that room. I also remember it being an exceptionally long exam. Needless to say, I wasn't laughing any more. Finally its over and as I'm putting myself back together hoping to make a quick escape she says, "Well it looks like you'll make pretty good officer material. "Maam?" "Get out of my office you A--hole." "Yes maam, Thank ya maam. I'm gone...."
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Post by Bullhunter on May 20, 2009 8:17:54 GMT 9
Dude,,,you can sure relive a story. Damn that was good. I'm still laughing.
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Post by dude on May 21, 2009 13:10:07 GMT 9
Thanks. Reliving it is right. I had to write it standing up.
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