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Post by dude on May 16, 2009 12:36:42 GMT 9
What was your #1 maintenance pet peeve about the F-106?
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on May 16, 2009 12:44:18 GMT 9
;D The tail hook. GRRRRR!
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Post by Bullhunter on May 16, 2009 13:45:13 GMT 9
Having to roll engines out so other shops could do something in the engine bay and then rolling them back in.
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Post by Jeff Shannon on May 16, 2009 17:47:07 GMT 9
The "B" model canopy actuator, it went thru the floor broads between the seats, had to have just about everything removed in the aft cockpit and then some one (me) crawl up inside the avionics bay under the aft seat to remove the screws to the plate for cockpit pressurization, they were 1/4 screws and nuts which went thru the floor boards one of us up and one down to remove the screws. and you better get them tight when you installed the new actuator because you had to do a cockpit pressure test. yep fun times............Not ;D ;D ;D
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Post by MOW on May 16, 2009 19:58:08 GMT 9
R&R'g the Drag Chute D Ring jaws mechanism that was mounted below the chute cannister between the speedbrakes and inside the vertical! Most of the 6 bolts were a PITA, but 2 of them were absolute murder on the hands, fingers, wrist and arm.
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Post by jimpadgett on May 16, 2009 21:19:39 GMT 9
The original ground power cable connector pins with the teflon tips that kepy breaking off in the aircraft receptacle. The tips had to be drilled out of the aircraft pin hole. Not so bad but, discovery of the broken off tip didn't occur until another power unit was connected and the broken tip caused the next pin to bend usually breaking the mount plate in the cable head... hell of a job to replace. Though not as tough as replacing the aircraft receptacle which amounted to about as much hoohah as the B model canopy actuator. Maybe a "spark chaser" could enlighten us on the recepticle replacement. Jim
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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on May 16, 2009 21:40:46 GMT 9
Fuel Quantity jobs - either wing. Need I say more!
AJ
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Post by Jim on May 17, 2009 1:40:41 GMT 9
ELEVON ACTUATOR/ELEVON ATTATACH BOLTS ;D ;D ;D We were doing every other a/c at it s 100hr PE to stagger the 300hr requirements of flight control surfaces, landg gear removal, and one other major inspection so that we wouldn' have a bird in the hangar with all 3 major items going on at the same time..............These bolts were so over torqued by Convair that we had to use a 12' bar with 3-4 guys hanging on itto break it loose.......We would split the 1 3/4" socket, break the 3/4 drive breaker bar............I even used a torch on the bolt head and nut and sometimes, even then we would end up cutting the nut off......... When we finally got the bolt out, the split bushings were wedged so tight in the boss on the a/c or the elevon that we had to use a rivet gun to hammer them out........Replaced a few of the bosses because we broke them...... These were on new a/c with only 100 hrs...............The Old Sarge
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Post by Bullhunter on May 17, 2009 1:51:38 GMT 9
I never changed one myself, but I heard some of the longtime jet engine technicians talk about the afterburner fuel control. My 3 years at McChord I know of only one being changed.
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Post by kilroy on May 17, 2009 4:05:22 GMT 9
HA HA Try remoning the refer compt and heat exchanger on the HOG B model : :razz
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Post by dude on May 17, 2009 4:38:50 GMT 9
Wow! When I started this thread my first thought for my pet peeve was Zeus fasteners. After reading all of yours.....huh never mind. :tailed-devil
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on May 17, 2009 13:01:51 GMT 9
;D ;D
If I may, I would like to change my Six pet peeve. I put the tail hook because of the problems it was on the Phase dock. It was a problem, but I got to thinking that there was one that irked me even more. Internal inspection of the wing fuel cells. You took the screws out and had to make sure you knew the size that came out of each hole and keep them straight. Masking tape and a magic marker worked quite well. Then as you started taking the screws out the fuel would run down your arms, even though you had defueled. Defueling left an appreciable amount of fuel in the tanks. Drip pans only caught what dripped off your elbows and tools Then you had to stick your head up in the wing to see if you could find any corrosion. Could only use a flashlight as a drop light was considered too dangerous. When the inspection was done and QC was satisfied, after their look to make sure you didn't miss anything, then the panels went back on. Before the panels went on you also had to inspect the seals to make sure they were good. You were not allowed to use an air gun to put the screws back in the panels. Too easy to rip out the nut housing. Doing that was a whole nuther problem. So, you gathered the screws, looked at the masking tape and put each screw in by hand and then tightened them with a speed wrench. Then a final check with a screw driver to make sure they were in tight enough, but not too tight. Next step was to slowly refuel to make sure all the seals were holding and no fuel seeping. When you were done, it was back in the hanger for an overnight rest to make sure no seepage. It was a dreadful job and one not looked forward to. Same thing had to be done if there was anything needing done in the tanks. Wet wings are a wonderful thing, until you have to get in to them for inspections or maintenance. :god_bless_usa
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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on May 17, 2009 13:33:04 GMT 9
Amen Jim. Even though I was an Instrument Weenie, I know what you mean. JP-4 sure was not a nice thing to get all over you. I know the screw thing too. GAWD Hated those jobs. 787 was a real FQ Pain in the A$$.
AJ
Oh hydraullic pressure transmitters in the wheel well were no fun, especially if the system wasn't bled fully.
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Post by Jim on May 18, 2009 3:54:32 GMT 9
The solution to the screws in the right place was to use sheet metal panels the same shape as the access panels drilled to hold the screws as you took them out..........................If you ever pulled the leading edge cell or the fuselage cell on a T bird, you appreciated wet wings .... My F-106-6 (refreshed by the Irishman from Texas) says that the other 300 hour Periodic inspection requirement was fuel cell inspection....So you can see why we wanted those 3 major items spread out over the 1st 3 PE. This was in the days before airline type phase inspections.... BTW I proved to ADC that the Pe Flow chart worked- as long as we got specialist support from the clowns in maint control (back B4 it was an AFSC, the misfits were generally sent there - BIG MISTAKE)... Never saw the supposed advantage of the phase insp- even though I and 4 others developed the RF-101 phase inspection system for PACAF in '65.........TDY from Nam to 5th AF headquarters in Japan for 10 days...........The Old Sarge
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Post by Jeff Shannon on May 18, 2009 4:20:18 GMT 9
The solution to the screws in the right place was to use sheet metal panels the same shape as the access panels drilled to hold the screws as you took them out..........................If you ever pulled the leading edge cell or the fuselage cell on a T bird, you appreciated wet wings The Old Sarge When I was stationed at Hancock field and was working T-33's I helped the guys pull those leading edge panels and I can confirm having a a template of the leading edge to put the screws in when you took them off was a GREAT idea and they say I must have had JP-4 in my veins to work on aircraft, in my veins is one thing.....but to take a bath in it because someone DID NOT de-puddle the aircraft is another. We got the panel off the wing and started to open the fuel cell when all I remember seeing was fuel just start flowing into the drip pans, all over us, filling up the tool box...and hearing someone in the back ground say "I forgot to de-fuel the jet yesterday before we brought it into phase". What a mess it was to clean up. I wanted to strap the guy into the seat and fire it, but cooler heads prevailed and made him clean up the mess. Needless to say everything he did from then on he was asked several times if it was done!! and the forms were double and tripled checked.
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Post by az09 on May 18, 2009 4:25:46 GMT 9
Lower and raise the 430 pound Constant Speed Drive (CSD). Anything from a sheared Stub shaft out to a starter change, to bad Gen / Alt problems. Other shops needing the CSD dropped to access their items.
There was a special winch to raise and lower the unit, but most folks just took the extension drive shaft out and unhooked all the oil lines and took the 2 mount bolts out and left them in the door, shouldered the unit on the inboard side and tripped the safety catch and sliding your feet outward letting the 430 lbs swing down. We would pre-safety the connections for the next guy who had to put it up.
To put it up was all technique. The small guys would get it swinging on the hinge and then "slam" it up into the safety catch. I saw Jim Shulkin do this one time and I thought he knocked the plane off the nose jack. The bigger guys could walk it in and leg drive the CSD into the safety catch. You could tell some of the engine guys by the left shoulder wear on their fatique shirts.
One day MSgt Green came out to check over the CSD installation, he then stayed there to help leak check it on start up. The extension shaft covers were off and he was dabbing at a drip with a rag when it got snagged on the shaft and the rag was shredded and wrapped around the rotating shaft. After we got it shut down, all he said was, guess I got too close, and laughed as he cut the rag off the shaft with his pocket knife.
AB fuel control r/r's..... In the 1 1/2 years on the six I remember 3 - 4 being changed. The main fuel line took a very large amount of torque and rolling the engine half way out was the preferred method. However some guys would try to r/r the ABFC with the engine in place. The only kicker came from getting purchase on the main fuel line connection nut to properly torque it. If it came to being "iffy", the engine had to be rolled back anyway.
There is one picture in the archives that shows all the ear marks of a ABFC change in progress at Castle. All the people standing under the plane and the big orange trash cans placed under the engine area.
The reason some engine guys don't remember doing as much on the ABFC's was that the "Northern" tier pilots would fly the plane all the way to Hamilton on the week ends and break there. We did a couple of ABFC changes for them on the week ends. One week end I counted 23 sister ADC "sixes" parked on our transit ramp.
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Post by sixerviper on May 19, 2009 2:48:09 GMT 9
How about removal/installation of the AMI, AVVI, and HSI amplifiers? The AMI/AVVI amps were outboard of the rudder pedal on the same side as the indicator (AMI on the left, AVVI on the right, for you crew chiefs out there...) and the HSI amp was under the right console.
You had to remove and install all three of them one-handed, unless the seat was out. I probably learned the "art" of one-handed safety-wiring on AMI/AVVI amps on the Six. What a pain in the ass that was!!
I once got the bright idea to set up a C-1 stand outside the right side of the cockpit to R&R an HSI amp. Boy was I the smart one! Then I got up on it, opened the console up, and realized that my short little arms weren't nearly long enough to reach the amp! Between the canopy sill being so high and the amp being well below the top of the console, nobody's arms would have been long enough. Oh, well, back to the drawing board. Incidentally, that technique works quite well on the F-16. I spent many an hour working under the consoles of the Viper from outside the jet.
The F-105D/F, which had identical instruments to the Six, had their AMI/AVVI amps mounted up in the nose where they were relatively accessible. The HSI amp was in the ballroom, which is equivalent to the 05/Datalink compartment on the Six, only it goes from the bottom to the top of the fuselage. There's a reason we called it the "ballroom".
Of course, any time I couldn't sweet-talk a crew chief into removing fuel tank panels was a bad omen for fuel quantity jobs. Oh--don't forget Burndy Blocks. Remember them???
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Post by az09 on May 21, 2009 1:14:13 GMT 9
The "six" had plenty of tight spaces that we tried to work in to avoid rolling the engine back. The right hand compressor bleed valve hardy ever failed but sometimes one would stick either open / closed causing problems with smooth air flow thru the power ranges.
We found that a tall, "skinny" guy could wedge his self up into this "hellish" hole and do the removal and replacement . The only way to safety wire it was a single strand, round robin safety. SSgt Bob Schiffer was our R/H Bleed Valve specialist.
Bob was able to do this job in about 3 hours.
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Post by Bullhunter on May 21, 2009 4:21:44 GMT 9
Yep, most bleed valves on fighters can be a tough task or just about impossable. Also the bleed valves on the B-52 next to the pylon/firewall could be real problems. I spent a whole night almost changing one on a B-52 in cold weather. After About the 5 or 6th person came by and asked how long I'd be I was pissed. The next person asked the same and without looking I said, The job will be %&*$#! done when its done. I then turned my head to see my squadron commander (LTC) standing there. :
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Post by marv2 on May 21, 2009 11:12:26 GMT 9
"Oh--don't forget Burndy Blocks. Remember them???"
Only on the defuel pad in the winter at Minot! Holding onto the scribe and attempting to pull the pin out from the retaining clip wthout it popping off. No can't recall that at all!!!
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