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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on May 13, 2009 10:14:41 GMT 9
I always get a kick out of TV shows and movies, especially when they toss an aircraft ot two in. One thing that really got me was the ignorance or lack of continuity some had. An example and when I mention it, I bet our response will be the same being AC nuts. Ever see a cast member board a 747, then magically you see it morph into a 727/ taxing? The best part is the landing later. You see clearly an older 707 cockpit set up and the pilot push the gear handle down. Qucikly they show a distance shot and the 747 is back with trucks coming down. Now the kicker. The thrilling 'beneath the fuselage shot' of the runway rushing up and guess what? They they are, the tandem B-52 gear rotating down and outward into lock. ...Then, oh yes the AC miraculously moprhs back into a 747. Might just be me, but I always find it hilarious. I think Hollywood created the true stealth airliners! The best I saw was Air Force One. What a laugh. I mean the AC has tons of whiz bang, but that flick really stretches the limits... and the American public believes it completely. Oh well, it's hollywood. AJ
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Post by dude on May 13, 2009 10:48:36 GMT 9
My favorite for that is the movie "Fail Safe" when they scramble the fighters to chase down the "Vindicators" (a.k.a. Hustlers) heading into Soviet Airspace. During the scene those fighters morphed from Sixes to Deuces to Voodoos and back to Sixes.
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Post by Bullhunter on May 13, 2009 11:17:54 GMT 9
One has to wonder where the get these stupid technical advisors.
I've seen movie after movie with people in military uniforms with hair over and sometimes coverning their ears. Such bull$hit.
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Post by daoleguy A.J. Hoehn (deceased) on May 13, 2009 11:46:44 GMT 9
Hehehe, hell yes Gary, remember those. 3510 drama. The one thing I recall now is a flick from the 50's I think. They had USAF guys walking around in a command place or something. All proper and prim as officers, but... They also had stripes. Go figure. Here's one for ya. How about names, I mean real names. I had a captain I worked for in Thailand briefly. His name was Deal. He made Major and we teased him "Major Deal". Get the drift. I also worked with a guy iin the Army after becoming a civilian. His name was Sargeant Major, Sargeant Wayne Major. Love it. The confusion it caused too! One other we all may remeber; Sargent Shriver. In WWII he was in the Navy - He was a Lieutenant. AJ
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on May 13, 2009 12:49:34 GMT 9
When I was in the 13th FIS at Sioux City, we had a 1Lt. Major. When he made captain everyone was hoping to be around when he made major. I wasn't. Hmm? Major Major.
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Post by F106lady on May 13, 2009 22:59:31 GMT 9
Names... When I was in the cadet corps at Texas A&M all the freshmen were addressed as "fish" In my unit there was a fish FREI (pronounced fry). No big deal, but her roommate for the first semester was fish HEINZ One of squadron commanders that I had in the UK was a female, her civilian husband did not share the same last name. His last name was Pfister, proper military etiquete dictated we address him as Mr. Pfister. :green-smile
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on May 14, 2009 8:03:49 GMT 9
If you ever watch movies made before and during WW2 that deal with airplanes, you will see so many shifts of planes that it will make your head spin. The ones I like show a single-engine, high-wing monoplane taking off and in the air it turns in to a twin-engine, low-wing monoplane. Or even worse are some of the films shot in the Thirties that switch back and forth from bi-planes to single-wing. Ronald Reagan made a series of films about a pilot. He played Lt. 'Brass' Bancroft, USN. He may be flying a Dirigible, or a sea-plane and is always able to get away from his official duties to fly some enemy plane and save the day. In one, he starts out flying a China Clipper as the ships captain and ends up flying a single-engine with a trap-door in the floor to drop illegals when they get intercepted. He didn't fly them at the same time, but he was capable of flying anything with wings, and even without. He took some of those planes through maneuvers that would rip the wings off getting away from the P26's that were chasing him. "B" movies at their best. Turner Classic Movies shows some of those oldies and they are fun to watch.
When I was at Sioux City, there was a kids program on TV that had a host dressed in a "space suit" who showed cartoons for the kiddies. The opening sequence showed and F86D taking off from the base. The closing sequence was an F86D landing and popping the drag chute. Somehow you were supposed to assume that an F86Dog could somehow transform itself in to a "space ship" after take-off.
One of the funniest flying sequences is in "It's A Mad, Mad World". Micky Rooney and others are flying a Twin-Beech, the pilot is out cold and the bird does some amazing stunt flying. I think it was Paul Mantz doing the actual flying.
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Post by Bullhunter on Dec 28, 2009 13:55:42 GMT 9
I ordered "A Gathering of Eagles" 1963 with Rock Hudson as a SAC Wing Commander. It took some searching to find it on DVD. Anyway I always liked it because it included the maintenance half of the wing. I always enjoy the part where Ranger 21 (a B-52) is at the end of the runway during an ORI with an engine problem. The maintenance troops rush in pop uppen the engine cowling and play with the engine. After two tries they get it up to where it will pull full power.
I don't know where the USAF tech advisor was but where they were playing with the engine had nothing to do with engine power that I can recall. And I worked those engines for 3 yaers. Thats Hollywood.
Anyway it had some nice flying stuff with B-52's, KC-135's, and a T-33.
One of my favorite movies.
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Post by Mark O on Dec 28, 2009 14:14:28 GMT 9
Oh yea, "Strategic Air Command" with Jimmy Stewart is another fantastic airplane movie! The B-36s & B-47s were great!
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Dec 30, 2009 9:43:47 GMT 9
Got to thinking about some of the War films involving airplanes I have seen, and some more came to mind. Air Force. It was produced in 1943 by Howard Hawks. He did lots of action movies. It has lots of young actors who became famous. The story deals with a B17 that left the States on 6 December 1941, going to Hickam Field. Needless to say it got there during an exciting time on the 7th of December. The movie follows the plane as it goes on to finally get to Clark Field. Lots of good flying sequences and some fairly decent acting. Of course, they are actors, not real crew members. Although some of the actors did serve in the military during WW2. I last saw it on TCM a few years ago. It is available on DVD, but you would probably have to order it. I saw it several times during the war. It kept popping up as the first movie on double features. Lots of "propaganda" movies did. Not all were good. Of that same era is a non airplane move that is a good one. They Were Expendable. John Wayne stars as a PT Boat skipper in the PI at the beginning of the war. One that came out after the war, that is really great is Twelve O'Clock High. Stars Gregory Peck as a bomber CO and the problems the bombers faced in Europe. Lots of B17 flying scenes. There was a TV series made by the same name, but not always very good. The Movie is the better choice. If you can get a copy of the 26 episode series Victory at Sea, buy it. It is available in DVD in a single box. I paid just a few bucks for my set. Deals with the Navy in the pacific, mostly, and has lots of Naval Air segments. Absolutely great. I know there are lots more, so do some looking and enjoy the old ones you find. Jim Too
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Jan 17, 2010 10:41:14 GMT 9
I keep thinking of good airplane movies.
The British made lots of them.
The Dam Busters and The Battle of Britain are two of them.
One of my favourites is: Reach for the Sky. It stars Kenneth Moore as Douglas Bader.
Bader was a Battle of Britain, RAF pilot. He lost both legs after an aircraft crash in 1931, but went on to be a pilot in the Battle of Britain and later a Group Captain. He was shot down in 1942 and was a POW until liberated in 1945. He is credited with 22 kills.
Great movie. Lots of aerial battle scenes.
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