Jim Scanlon (deceased)
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Apr 12, 2009 2:49:26 GMT 9
When I arrived at Ubon in February 1967, I was assigned to the 433 TFS and given Col. Robin Olds' F4 to crew. Col. Olds, as I recall, had a bird in all three squadrons and flew them all quite regularly. One day I had to take the plane to the trim pad for a burner run after some engine maintenance. It was there, on the trim pad, that I met Lt. Gen. "Whip" Wilson. Gen. Wilson was commander of 13th Air Force at Clark Field. What the general came to the pad for is still a mystery. However, he was known for doing things like that. Even in a combat zone. As he and his followers walked around the pad he talked to all the people who were there. He came to the GPU that was hooked up to a bird and began opening panels. The first panel he opened had the GPU's forms in it. He knew where they were, and that was the first thing he looked at. There was a Tech with the plane and the general asked him if he was the one who was supposed to do the daily on the GPU. The Tech told him no, as he was with the airplane, not ground power. That didn't stop the general from chewing him out for not having checked the unit. The form wasn't signed off, and was low on oil. He told the Chief who was with him, his enlisted aide, to make a note to get the ground power chief out there. The Chief took a notebook and pen out of his pocket and began to write. Then he went to the staff car and called Maintenance Control and told them to send the NCOIC and OIC of the ground power shop to the pad, at once. Then I was spotted. I was just standing there waiting my turn for the run crew to do the checks on my bird. As he walked toward me I snapped him a highball and stood at attention. When he told me to be at ease he asked if the tool box sitting there was mine. I told him it was and he asked me to open it. Never having even heard of Whip Wilson, I had no idea why he wanted to look in my tool box. He stooped down and began lifting up tools, even the bottom of the box. Then he turned to me and said my tool box was perfect. There were no pieces of hardware or snips of safety wire in the box. Said it was clean and looked like a tool box should. I thanked him, but didn't tell him I had just been issued the box a couple of days before and hadn't had a chance to get it looking like most tool boxes did. He asked if there were any tools I needed. I told him I, and others, didn't have the special wheel screw remover used to take wing panels off of the F4. He turned to the major with him and asked him why. The major, it turned out, was the wing supply officer. He told the general that there were lots of the tools available and I should have been given one. I told him that there were lots of troops that didn't have any and we had to share them. The general told the Chief, who already had his notebook and pen out, to make a note. He told the major to double check the number available. I was told later that Gen. Wilson was prone to dump tool boxes on the ramp and make the owner clean up the mess and make sure that only valid tools were in the box. Just one of his things. About that time a pickup pulled on to the pad and as the two men got out they were asked if they were from the power shop. When they said yes, the general gave them a tour of the GPU and handed the officer the forms. I don't know what he told them, but they followed his staff car as it left the pad. All of us on the trip pad breathed a sigh of relief as the staff cars drove off. I thought that was the end of it. A couple of days later the expedite truck pulled up to my bird and called me over. In the truck was the supply officer and he didn't look happy. He handed me a box of the special wheeled screw drivers and told me they were for me from Gen. Wilson. He then said that the supply records showed several boxes, but none could be found. So, to us crew chiefs it was almost like Christmas. The expedite truck took the box and made sure that every crew chief had at least two of the tools. A few days went by and I was under the plane helping hang a weapons rack. I saw a blue Chevy pull up behind the plane and heard a voice calling me from the car. I crawled out from under the back of the plane and saw it was Col. Olds. As I saluted he asked if the bird was ready to go. I told him once the racks were on they would be loaded and ready for his mission. Then a voice came from the other side of the car; "Sgt. Scanlon, did you get the special delivery I sent you?" I looked and there was Gen. Wilson. I told him I did, thanked him and told him they were being put to use. Col. Olds told me that he had no idea what the general was talking about and got an explanation as they drove down the flight line. Those were the first encounters with Whip Wilson, but not my last. :god_bless_usa In GOD we Trust.
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Post by Gene on Apr 12, 2009 4:56:33 GMT 9
i can relate to your story....i used to follow different generals and/or commanders around on inspections and photgrahically document the very things you described in this story....
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Post by Bullhunter on Apr 12, 2009 9:14:36 GMT 9
I think we need more General Wilsons.
I was workig a B-52 one very cold stormy night and often individuals came by and asked , "how soon will you be done?" I got down to just saying, "I'm done when I get done".
Must have been about 2:00AM when I heard, "Sarge how soon before you are finished?"
I was cold, wet, and pissed off and I had my cold hands stuck up in the jet engine components and tubing with my flash light stuck in the snow shining up where I was working.
I assumed it was the crewchief and with out looking I mouthed off. Something like ---- "The some bitch will be done when the dam thing is done!" I then added, "I people would leave me the hell alone I'd get done faster!"
There was no response for several seconds then a voice said, "I see sarge, what can I do to help you?" My mind processed the event quickly and said to me, "A crewchief wanting to help when he could be in his warm office drinking coffee, very odd." So a stopped my task for a few seconds and looked back over my shoulder. And damn, what did I see looking at me? My Maintanence Squadron Commander a LT. Col.
I quickly said, "Sorry Sir, I didn't know it was you." He replied, "I'm sure you didn't, so what can I do to help?"
I asked him if he could hold my flash light I could be finished in 8 or 10 minutes. He did and we finished. The B-52 took-off on time at 0600 hrs. When at shift change at 0800hrs I told my shop boss (SMSgt)what happened he just laughed and shook his head.
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Post by az09 on Apr 14, 2009 13:27:52 GMT 9
I met General Wilson at Goose Bay in 1969. He was asked to retire by the President and was making his final tour of MAC. Some of the Senior NCO's knew of "The Whip's" reputation for firing people who didn't do their job, or look after the troops.
We did everything to clean up our MAC facilities, cleaning, painting, getting new stuff. We had ran the SAC Supply out of beige paint for the common areas in the dorm. The down stairs got the new paint and the up stairs was left unpainted but scrubbed to a fair thee well. We use to have a TV and pool table down stairs and a TV and a ping pong table upstairs. When we played pool or ping pong no one could hear the TV's. So the TV's were moved down stairs and the pool table and ping pong table was moved upstairs. The rest of the units areas were spotless, ready for the the "Whip's" inspection.
Come the first day of the General's trip and he comes in with a bird strike on his C-141's left windshield. The C-141 is new to the command and many times if the crew didn't have a part on the plane, it would have to set until the part was flown up from Dover AFB. Well, I don't know where they got the new wind shield but we got it replaced in the 2 hours the General was on the ground.
We had heard when the plane was being parked and blocked that the General left his aide, a Captain, at home because the Captain had missed the take-off time. The General had made it up the steps just as the Captain arrived and he left the guy standing on the flight line. The old SAC troops said the "Whip" was in his usual form, so get ready for 2 hours of hell.
The General and his group of Base officials made their way to the MAC Maintenance hanger and walked thru the building talking with everyone. We passed muster there and the inspection party headed to the MAC Traffic building.
General Wilson walked right into the middle of the traffic warehouse and looked down. At his feet was a pile of floor trash and a push broom laying on the floor. No one had done the last pile pick up. The General asked the MSgt in charge of the section "what the Hell is this pile?" The MSgt said it was trash that the airmen had missed in the effort to get ready. Weak, but the General said "OK, let's go." The inspection party headed to the dorm.
The First Sergeant tries to steer the General to the first floor dayroom and the fresh paint. But no deal, the General makes a right turn up the center stair case and arrives at the upstairs game room. The General asks why there are no TV's upstairs? It is explained to keep the noise of playing games separate from the TV watching. The "Whip" asks, "who decided that move?" The First Sergeant says," the men, Sir." The General turns to me, "Is that right, Sergeant?" I reply "Yes Sir." If I hadn't been stationed there by the Squadron Commander along with my room mate Ray, you can bet I would have been at the NCO Club, hiding out. He turns to Ray and asks him why the walls aren't painted like the downstairs hallways ? Ray tells him that the SAC Supply folks ran out of paint to finish the 100% repainting job. The General says. "fair enough" and walks back downstairs to the TV room and asks the guys there some questions and leaves for the flight line again.
We heard about the "Traffic Section SNAFU" after the General left the building. We later heard that he was again herded by to his plane by the Squadron Commander, but he belayed the order and redirected the driver to take him back to the Traffic warehouse.
The "Whip" walks right up to the same pile of trash and push broom in the middle of the floor. The MSgt shows up again and is asked what the pile is ? Again he says trash, and the General tells him he is fired and to be out of his Command and off Goose Bay AB by sundown. The General then has words with the SAC Base Commander, The 620th MAC Squadron Commander and walks out to his C-141. The door is shut and locked and the first engine is started. General Wilson taxi's out and eventually turns onto the active and starts his roll and lift off, headed for Sontrestrom AB, then "Tulee".
The Traffic NCOIC is banished to Westover AFB, to await orders to his next assignment. I heard later that General Wilson endorsed the MSgt's APR, but not in a good way. The MSgt's family caught up with him at Westover the next week.
This visit had all the leadership stirred up the whole time General Wilson was in the frozen North, and until he retired.
I then fully understood how General Wilson got his nickname. "The Whip"
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Post by az09 on Apr 14, 2009 13:31:49 GMT 9
General Wilson's replacement was General "Blackjack" Catton. I just don't know where he got that handle, but it didn't bode well for the command if "The Whip" was any indication of nicknames Vs personal behavior.
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Post by falconkeeper on Jun 18, 2009 5:59:24 GMT 9
All that I knew of Whip Wilson was from a base management class. He was used as an example of what fear could and could not accomplish. Gen. LeMay carried him around to "Whip" a wing back into shape. Our instructor pointed out that fear is only good for about 2 months, then the adrenaline wears off and Gen. Wilson had to be replaced by another wing CO by that time. I am personally glad that I never had anything to do with him.
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Post by jimpadgett on Jun 18, 2009 21:04:02 GMT 9
I heard that Jack Catton got fired because of the KC-135 he had plushed out for his use or the money he spent doing it. I knew a MSgt that, as a SSgt, got put in charge of Vehicle Maintenance at FE Warren when General LeMay fired two other NCOs in the section who could not answer a question. Sad that later in my career those "mustangs" seem to have disappeared. There is always a reason to kick butt. You just hoped their aim was accurate.
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Post by Bullhunter on Jun 19, 2009 0:20:25 GMT 9
Now that sounds like an overblown ego and an abuse of power. You can't expect everyone to know everything. If someone does not know an answer you educate them or make them go find the answer.
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Post by Jim on Jun 20, 2009 4:36:07 GMT 9
ADD ANOTHER *jerk* TO THE LIST------GENERAL "SUNDOWN " WELLS 42ND BOMB WING (SAC) LORING AFB EARLY 60S...........BE OFF OF MY BASE BY "SUNDOWN" WAS HIS CORRECTIVE ACTION.........SURE AS HELL NOT A LEADER IN MY BOOK.................RUN INTO HIS SORRY ASS AGAIN IN VIET NAM............ The Old Sarge
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