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Post by Mark O on Mar 15, 2024 2:45:31 GMT 9
Continuing on yesterday's theme, here is a page from the 1961 Guide to Bunker Hill AFB. The 319th FIS Commander at the time was Lt. Col. Walter O. Beane Jr. Notice the photo of the Six on this page from the guide. Another that I have seen before in b/w, but never in color! I always like those! Col. Beane died on 24 October 1992, and is buried at Arlington. Mark O
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Post by Mark O on Mar 16, 2024 5:09:54 GMT 9
What the heck, let's stay on the base directory/guide theme! Here is the entry for the 5th FIS at Minot from 1969. One of the better ones I've seen, and it even has photos of the REAL, Spittin' Kittens! (Their descendants ended up in the Minot zoo if I remember correctly!) I was not able to find any additional info on Col. Smith. Enjoy! Mark O
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Post by LBer1568 on Mar 17, 2024 22:41:44 GMT 9
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Post by Mark O on Mar 19, 2024 1:03:00 GMT 9
I've seen a few photos of 94th FIS Sixes posed with that WWI Spad -- some in color even -- but have not seen this particular photo of 58-0791 before. Not the greatest photo ever, but it does kind of put them in perspective size-wise, and I suspect that was the intent of the photographer. Maybe!
Just to give you some specs, the Spad S.XIII was 20' 6" long from nose to tail. The vertical stabilizer on an F-106 was 19' 5" from where the leading edge met the fuselage to the tip of the speed brakes.
Enjoy! Mark O P.S. You worked on Spads when you were an Airman, didn't you Lorin!
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Post by Mark O on Mar 20, 2024 5:47:00 GMT 9
Now this one is pretty cool. (Well, they all are, aren't they?!) 59-0002 of the 5th FIS in a nice air-to-air shot with the weapon bay open, and a WSEM hanging out, but look under the canopy, and notice the big, red star. I've only seen one other photo of her with that star, but have never known what it was there for. I know what it would mean if I saw one (or more) on an F-4 Phantom, but can only guess the reason on an F-106. If anyone knows for sure, please give us the story! Enjoy! Mark O
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Post by Mark O on Mar 21, 2024 4:05:20 GMT 9
Found a very interesting photo the other day of a couple of technicians either installing, or removing a Convair "B" seat ejection seat at what I am guessing is at a depot. The photo is clearly, very early in the life of the Six as you can see the early, "subsonic" tanks (even though they were rated at Mach 1.25), a buzz number on the 27th FIS aircraft on the left which I think is a B-model, 59-2514, and early markings of the 318th, and 498th FIS. I'm guessing early 1960s, but after 1961 as that is when 2514 was assigned to the 27th FIS. Really a very nice shot. Enjoy! Mark O
(P.S. This is my 4,000th post on the Forum! Holy smokes!)
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Post by Mark O on Mar 22, 2024 3:46:43 GMT 9
This is a photo I would love to see in color! I don't recall exactly where I came across this one, but I've had it on my computer(s) from the time I was still on active duty. (I retired in 2011.) A nice lineup of 456th FIS Sixes, and a half dozen F-86Ds of the 194th FIS who much later would fly the F-106 themselves. My notes say this was taken on 22 October 1962 at Fresno, and also say "Hammer Field." Must have been an old-timer that wrote Hammer Field, because that was Fresno's WWII name. By this time it was known as the Fresno Air Terminal. (I know the feeling. There are buildings, places from my youth that I still call by their original names, and a few re-named Army posts that I will always call by their original names as well. Fort Bragg, Fort Benning, Fort Hood, etc.) Today it is the Fresno Yosemite International Airport.
Note that the photographer was gracious enough to get his car in the frame as well! I ID'd the aircraft; can anyone ID the car?!
Now this is totally me guessing based on the photo, and where I know the 194th FIS was/is based at the airport, but I think this photo was taken from the southeast corner of the airport looking across E. McKinley Avenue looking mostly NNE. The large hanger in the background is probably where Skywest Airlines is now. Just some map analysis, but I could be wrong. Enjoy! Mark O
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Post by pat perry on Mar 22, 2024 5:42:53 GMT 9
This is a photo I would love to see in color! I don't recall exactly where I came across this one, but I've had it on my computer(s) from the time I was still on active duty. (I retired in 2011.) A nice lineup of 456th FIS Sixes, and a half dozen F-86Ds of the 194th FIS who much later would fly the F-106 themselves. My notes say this was taken on 22 October 1962 at Fresno, and also say "Hammer Field." Must have been an old-timer that wrote Hammer Field, because that was Fresno's WWII name. By this time it was known as the Fresno Air Terminal. (I know the feeling. There are buildings, places from my youth that I still call by their original names, and a few re-named Army posts that I will always call by their original names as well. Fort Bragg, Fort Benning, Fort Hood, etc.) Today it is the Fresno Yosemite International Airport.
Note that the photographer was gracious enough to get his car in the frame as well! I ID'd the aircraft; can anyone ID the car?!
Now this is totally me guessing based on the photo, and where I know the 194th FIS was/is based at the airport, but I think this photo was taken from the southeast corner of the airport looking across E. McKinley Avenue looking mostly NNE. The large hanger in the background is probably where Skywest Airlines is now. Just some map analysis, but I could be wrong. Enjoy! Mark O
Mark O, Car is a 1955 Chevrolet 4-door sedan. Probably a 6-cylinder engine. Probably owned by the photographer of the photo. Nice picture of the FAT flightline with the Castle AFB 456th FIS F-106s and the Air Guard F-86D Sabre Dogs. I believe those F-106s were the latest builds with vertical tape instruments that were assigned first to Castle, AFB and later replaced by the round eye 1957 model F-106's. I believe the F-86D aircraft were at Castle before the first F-106s arrived and they were later transferred to the Fresno Air Guard. I have some pictures of the pilots who flew the F-86Ds at Castle before the first F-106s arrived. Fresno Air Terminal was the Detachment 1 for the 456th FIS at Castle, AFB. We kept 4 Sixes (5- and 15-minute alert) at both Castle and FAT Det 1. This helped the pilots stay proficient because they could get their F-106 proficiency hours flown using a spare F-106 rather than an alert bird that would have to be downloaded. Patrick McGee was part of the Det 1 crew at Fresno. He also helped set up the Castle Air Museum after the base was closed and the B-52 and KC-135 aircraft were moved to other SAC Bases. The Castle Air Museum Collection: castleairmuseum.org/collection/Thanks, Pat P.
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Post by lindel on Mar 26, 2024 22:38:57 GMT 9
Not absolutely sure this will work, since it's from my onedrive account. You might have to click on the link to get there. It's a plaque I bought recently and got yesterday. It's 062 in 49th colors. 1drv.ms/i/s!AsFrzrZJX7luhIJte1Pz3IXRD7pj3g?e=6uHXiR Looks like you might have to copy and paste in your browser.
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Post by lindel on Mar 26, 2024 22:49:42 GMT 9
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Post by Diamondback on Mar 26, 2024 23:38:59 GMT 9
Just to give you some specs, the Spad S.XIII was 20' 6" long from nose to tail. The vertical stabilizer on an F-106 was 19' 5" from where the leading edge met the fuselage to the tip of the speed brakes.
Those WWI "kites" were tiny planes built to be flown by tiny-statured men - with the underpowered engines of the day even the weight of simply a second Vickers or Spandau machinegun could dramatically hurt speed and climb rate, and for this reason many of the early aviators were former horse cavalry. (Consider that the largest and heaviest ever allowed as American "pony soldiers" was 5'6" and 120lb - that weight was the absolute upper weight limit of how much man one horse could carry after all the required supplies and fighting gear were piled on. That's about my height but half my weight!) And even with those small guys, until very late in WWI they didn't even have space or weight capacity for PARACHUTES... from the "Stuff I Work With Everyday" file. Interesting find, thanks! Forwarded to the WWI nerds I know.
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Post by pat perry on Mar 27, 2024 1:26:13 GMT 9
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Post by LBer1568 on Mar 27, 2024 23:59:21 GMT 9
I don't care what you say Pat...VP Al Gore invented the Internet...lol
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Post by pat perry on Mar 28, 2024 5:03:18 GMT 9
I don't care what you say Pat...VP Al Gore invented the Internet...lol Lorin, Al Gore had a lot of help from the guys who really did start the Internet.
Read this first, then watch the video below. www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/#Origin
Thanks, Pat P.
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Post by LBer1568 on Mar 28, 2024 6:13:48 GMT 9
Pat, I had the pleasure of meeting both Vincent and Bob Kahn at one of the Microsoft Security Summits in early 2000's in Washington DC. Also got to talk with Bill Gates who was keynote speaker. Together Vinc and Bob created first Transmission Control Protocol which allowed packet transfers and Internet Protocol which allowed groups of networks. But one big name not talked in film was Tim Berners-Lee who created the groundwork for the World Wide Web. I think that was a much later invention and formed what we now call the Web. DARPAnet was slowly grown, mainly in Universities and Commercial Companies. I remember using MOSAIC to "Surf" the Internet. It combined very small photo's with text. We would go from site to site with crude searches and find files, shared among users. I found a lot of interesting sites. It was also very easy to go where no man had gone before. It was easy to accidently go into DoD or other Government sites. Security was very poor at best. Most assumed if you were allowed on one you were honest and could surf. I can imagine that I would have been tracked down and sent to jail in todays world. And remember I worked my way up to 56K modem. Man was that fast back then (As compared to lesser speed ones). God I wish I could remember a fraction of what I have known. Lorin
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Post by Mark O on Mar 29, 2024 0:59:12 GMT 9
Not sure how the "Picture of the Day" thread ended up about the internet (Pat Perry! ) but I am here to fix it! How many remember this unique feature of the F-106? The navigation lights were designed to be flush with the wings, and vertical stab. In fact, the original design of the upper, rotating beacon was retractable! (I read that it was a PITA to keep working, so they removed that feature, and kept it extended. I suppose by that time the world speed record had been set, so why not!) Anyway, another interesting thing about the nav lights is they were not completely blue, or red unlike practically every other aircraft I have seen, or worked on, and have never heard an explanation why they did that. Here is a shot I took of 57-2533 on display at Kelly Field in San Antonio several years ago of the port nav light. Enjoy! Mark O
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Post by pat perry on Mar 29, 2024 7:41:05 GMT 9
Not sure how the "Picture of the Day" thread ended up about the internet (Pat Perry! ) but I am here to fix it! How many remember this unique feature of the F-106? The navigation lights were designed to be flush with the wings, and vertical stab. In fact, the original design of the upper, rotating beacon was retractable! (I read that it was a PITA to keep working, so they removed that feature, and kept it extended. I suppose by that time the world speed record had been set, so why not!) Anyway, another interesting thing about the nav lights is they were not completely blue, or red unlike practically every other aircraft I have seen, or worked on, and have never heard an explanation why they did that. Here is a shot I took of 57-2533 on display at Kelly Field in San Antonio several years ago of the port nav light. Enjoy! Mark O
Mark O, Here's the Lineage History of that F-106 F-106B 572533. She has definitely been all over the place.
www.f-106deltadart.com/db/acft/acft_view.php?editid1=225&
Sep 1959 - 123rd F-106 produced by Convair at San Diego CA 21 Oct 59 - To 456th FIS Castle AFB CA 17 Oct 60 - To 71st FIS Selfridge AFB MI 02 Dec 66 - To 94th FIS Selfridge AFB MI 11 Aug 67 - To 48th FIS Langley AFB VA 30 Aug 67 - To 94th FIS Selfridge AFB MI 26 May 69 - To 71st FIS Malmstrom AFB MT 01 July 71 - To 319th FIS Malmstrom AFB MT 24 Apr 72 - To 460th FIS Grand Forks AFB ND 08 July 74 - To 159th FIS/125th FIG, Jacksonville IAP FL ANG 06 Aug 74 - To 194th FIS/144th FIG Fresno CA ANG 17 Sep 74 - To 159th FIS/125th FIG Jacksonville IAP FL ANG 12 Dec 86 - Written off for cracked frame. 20 Nov 87 - Dedicated as a display at Kelly AFB TX
I believe you are correct about the Nav Beacon being left in raised position as a result of a Depot mod (maybe the IFR, or clear canopy, or Solid-state MA-1 mod).
On the Picture of the Day Thread, remember that we have had to change the F-106 Forum three times since 2004. That has been confusing when you consider that the Lineage of the aircraft has not changed at all since the F-106 was delivered from 1956 through 1960. And was turned through the Drone program at Tyndall until all of them were eventually destroyed, sunken in the ocean for fish habitats, used as targets on the bomb range, or converted to displays at Air Museums.
We built over 5000 F-4 Phantoms and only 344 F-106s. Percentage wise they represent more displays at Air Museums than most aircraft. Sixers were proud to be assigned to an F-106 squadron. Due to the skill sets required of the F-106 many of our Sixers spent time at 4-5 F-106 Squadrons during their careers. I also worked on C-130s and F-102s during my tours in Southeast Asia.
Thanks for your work on tracing the lineage of the greatest and fastest single engine Fighter Interceptor! Pat P.
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Post by Mark O on Mar 30, 2024 2:49:14 GMT 9
Just a cool shot of 59-0056, and another 49th FIS Six in the break. Enjoy! Mark O
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Post by pat perry on Mar 30, 2024 11:09:43 GMT 9
59-0056 Lineage
Units Assigned:194th,318th,498th,49th,84th.
History Lineage: Mar 1960 - 227th F-106 produced by Convair at San Diego CA 04 Apr 60 - To 318th FIS, 325th FW, McChord AFB WA 20 May 66 - To 498th FIS, 325th FW, McChord AFB WA 14 Jun 66 - To 498th FIS, 57th FG, Paine Field WA 11 Sep 68 - To 498th FIS Hamilton AFB CA 30 Sep 68 - To 84th FIS, 78th FW, Hamilton AFB CA 01 Jan 70 - To 84th FIS, 1st FW, Hamilton AFB CA 01 Oct 70 - To 84th FIS Hamilton AFB CA 31 Oct 73 - To 84th FIS Castle AFB CA 01 Oct 79 - Command change from ADCOM to TAC 27 Mar 81 - To 194th FIS/144th FIG Fresno Airport CA (ANG) 08 Jan 84 - To 49th FIS Griffiss AFB NY 01 Apr 87 - To Davis Monthan AFB AZ for storage FN126 21 Aug 91 - To AEL Inc., East Alton IL for drone conversion 12 Dec 91 - To Tyndall AFB FL as QF-106 drone S/N AD164 02 Jul 93 - Shot down on 1st NULLO by an AIM-120
AMARC Arrival:01-04-1987
AMARC Storage PCN ID No. FN126
Static Display Painted As: TAC Conventional: Models produced with Tactical 'Round Eye' instruments. Conventional: Models were originally committed as TEST or BAILMENT aircraft. TEST-to-TACTICAL: Models returned to Convair and upgraded from TAC Conventional to Vertical instruments in 1961. Fuselage cut in half at station 412 (Aft bulkhead missile bay) and a new fuselage, cockpit section, and nose section was installed with the latest production avionics, the same as the last F-106A 590148 and F-106B 590165. A total of 35 aircraft (28 "A" models and 7 "B" models) were converted and reassigned to various ADC units.. Vertical, 1st Produced: First 'A' and 'B' models produced with vertical instruments. Tactical Vertical: Models factory produced w/Tactical Vertical instruments: late 1957 and all 1958, 1959. F-106 Specifications Role/Function Fighter-Interceptor Manufacturer Convair Division of General Dynamics Country United States Crew 'A' Model 1, 'B' Model 2 Power plant Pratt & Whitney J-75-P-17 Turbojet Thrust 24,500 lbs. in Afterburner Max Speed 1,525 mph (Mach 2.31) @ 40,000 ft Service Ceiling 53,000 ft Wingspan 38 ft. 3½ in. Length 70 ft 8.78in Height 20 ft 3.3in Weight 23,646 lb. empty, 41,831 lb max Cost USD $3,305,435 Initial, $4.7M after MODS Range 2,700 mi. max fuel w/ext tanks No. Built 340 (277 'A', 63 'B') Armament AIR-2A (1) AIM-4 (4) M61A1 (1) Fire Control System Hughes MA-1 / IBM Semi-Automatic Ground Environment (SAGE) System Ejection Seats 1st Seat Weber Aircraft Corporation Interim seat, not Zero-Zero, inadequate for supersonic speed ejections. 2nd Seat Convair/ICESC (Industry Crew Escape System Committee) Supersonic Rotational B-seat, called the supersonic 'Bobsled'. 3rd Seat Final Weber Aircraft Corporation Zero-Zero ROCAT (Rocket Catapult), Zero-Zero, High-altitude supersonic ejections, retro-fitted to all aircraft. Mfr. Model # MK No. 8-24
Thanks, Pat P.
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Post by Mark O on Apr 2, 2024 4:38:59 GMT 9
Here's one I haven't seen before. A clean 57-2480 in 456th FIS markings. This aircraft definitely got around. The database shows it was in SEVEN different squadrons in it's lifetime, and that includes two ANG units. Make it eight if you include the drone squadron at Tyndall! Just a cool photo! Enjoy, Mark O
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