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Post by prothjohnson on Nov 7, 2015 4:37:40 GMT 9
I'm trying to figure out how to remove the F-106's wings from its fuselage. Does anyone have documentation for F-106 wing removal and installation procedures? I'm looking for a copy of Structural Repair Manual, T.O. 1F-106A-3 (or a partial copy, if that's the only thing available). I didn't find this T.O. on f-106deltadart.com/manuals_documents.htm but thought I'd ask on the forums, just in case. I'm hoping to gather documents to prepare for next week's disassembly and transport of 58-0786 in El Paso to Mojave for the California Science Center ( www.f-106deltadart.com/photo_gallery/index.php/Static-Displays/580786-A-California-Science-Ctr-CA). Any help would be greatly appreciated! If there are no docs available, I'm also interested in seeing photos of the wing attach points on the fuselage. I'm a little confused about how to access the attach point near the leading edge of the wing, closest to the nose. Thanks, Perry -- Perry Roth-Johnson, Ph.D. Air and Space Exhibit Researcher California Science Center
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Post by pat perry on Nov 7, 2015 7:13:01 GMT 9
I'm trying to figure out how to remove the F-106's wings from its fuselage. Does anyone have documentation for F-106 wing removal and installation procedures? I'm looking for a copy of Structural Repair Manual, T.O. 1F-106A-3 (or a partial copy, if that's the only thing available). I didn't find this T.O. on f-106deltadart.com/manuals_documents.htm but thought I'd ask on the forums, just in case. I'm hoping to gather documents to prepare for next week's disassembly and transport of 58-0786 in El Paso to Mojave for the California Science Center ( www.f-106deltadart.com/photo_gallery/index.php/Static-Displays/580786-A-California-Science-Ctr-CA). Any help would be greatly appreciated! If there are no docs available, I'm also interested in seeing photos of the wing attach points on the fuselage. I'm a little confused about how to access the attach point near the leading edge of the wing, closest to the nose. Thanks, Perry -- Perry Roth-Johnson, Ph.D. Air and Space Exhibit Researcher California Science Center Hi Perry, I just sent you a personal message on this forum with my contact info.
Welcome to the best F-106 website and forum in the world! Glad to have you on board.
I have the paper copy of the manual you are looking for. I have been in contact with Dennis Jenkins re: the El Paso F-106 that will be going to the Los Angeles CSC.
Coincidentally, an aircraft engineer friend of mine recently gave me the Tech Order to donate to an air museum which will probably be the San Diego Air Museum since they already have a large volume of Convair documents. I plan to scan it into PDF files so we can add it to the F-106 website. Yesterday I ordered a Canon flat bed scanner from Amazon.com. The manual is about 500 pages and will take a while to scan since I also have 5 other volunteer jobs I work on.
What is your timeframe for needing a copy of the manual? I have a scanner already that I can scan or copy select pages you might need for wing removal.
We look forward to helping you with this project. Most of us F-106ers range from 60-80 years old and we have helped save a number of F-106s from the scrap heap at the bone yard in Tucson.
So check your messages on the forum and shoot me an email or phone call.
Thanks, Pat Perry
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Post by Jim on Nov 7, 2015 11:24:29 GMT 9
It has been 54 years since I was involved in a wing removal. Unless you have hydraulic cradles to support the wing and lower it away from the fuselage, it is actually a fuselage removal in that you will lift the fuselage away from the wing. Be sure that you check every place that air lines, fuel lines, hydraulic line and electrical can pass from the fuselage to the wing, then have someone go backwards from where you finished to double check. Once you start to lift, you don't want to have to stop. Be sure that you place your lifting slings per the T.O. or if the a/c is marked use the markings, as those places are structurally designed to be used for lifting. Remove main ldg gear before trying to lift the wing, (actually before removing the fuselage) gear removal should be rather straight forward, unless corrosion has set up between the trunnions and the pins. The gear are not light, use plenty of manpower- young manpower that is. The Old Sarge
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Post by ma1marv on Nov 8, 2015 0:18:02 GMT 9
I would recommend starting with removal of ALL panels along the fuselage that gives any access to the wing root. Also you might want to invest in about 10 pounds of #2 Phillips screw driver bits along with some #3 Phillips bits! If you use a speed handle with a large butt attachment for those stubborn screws that will surely help - otherwise a small (1.4 inch) chisel will be appreciated in getting those stubborn and corroded screws out! I'm NOT a crew chief and was never involved in changing - removing a wing or landing gear - BUT I have plenty of experience removing those panels! Once you have the panels off you should be able to see inside where the wing attachment bolts are. I would guess that by now - the only other attachments to the wing would be hydraulic lines and fuel lines. Unless you are planing on flying this air frame again - all the electrical cables can just be cut with a healthy pair of wire cutters. Have fun take pictures and post them to this site! We are ALL interested in saving a 6!
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Post by Jim on Nov 8, 2015 0:58:07 GMT 9
I would recommend starting with removal of ALL panels along the fuselage that gives any access to the wing root. Also you might want to invest in about 10 pounds of #2 Phillips screw driver bits along with some #3 Phillips bits! If you use a speed handle with a large butt attachment for those stubborn screws that will surely help - otherwise a small (1.4 inch) chisel will be appreciated in getting those stubborn and corroded screws out! I'm NOT a crew chief and was never involved in changing - removing a wing or landing gear - BUT I have plenty of experience removing those panels! Once you have the panels off you should be able to see inside where the wing attachment bolts are. I would guess that by now - the only other attachments to the wing would be hydraulic lines and fuel lines. Unless you are planing on flying this air frame again - all the electrical cables can just be cut with a healthy pair of wire cutters. Have fun take pictures and post them to this site! We are ALL interested in saving a 6! 3 other useful tools will be a center punch to aid in screw removal, along with a hammer, (useful with MArv's cold chisel and the center punch). Go to a motorcycle shop and beg, borrow or steal a hammer operated impact screw remover. Last resort go to Sears and buy oneAttachment Deleted
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Post by pat perry on Nov 8, 2015 2:57:36 GMT 9
I would recommend starting with removal of ALL panels along the fuselage that gives any access to the wing root. Also you might want to invest in about 10 pounds of #2 Phillips screw driver bits along with some #3 Phillips bits! If you use a speed handle with a large butt attachment for those stubborn screws that will surely help - otherwise a small (1.4 inch) chisel will be appreciated in getting those stubborn and corroded screws out! I'm NOT a crew chief and was never involved in changing - removing a wing or landing gear - BUT I have plenty of experience removing those panels! Once you have the panels off you should be able to see inside where the wing attachment bolts are. I would guess that by now - the only other attachments to the wing would be hydraulic lines and fuel lines. Unless you are planing on flying this air frame again - all the electrical cables can just be cut with a healthy pair of wire cutters. Have fun take pictures and post them to this site! We are ALL interested in saving a 6! I would also recommend a battery powered impact wrench or hammer/drill. The hammer action can help loosen bolts without stripping out the phillips heads. Also get some high strength drill bits and screw extractor bits in case you strip out some phillips heads and have to drill and extract them. Steel screws that go into aluminum threads create a galvanic corrosion cell when moisture is present.
Pat P.
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Post by prothjohnson on Nov 9, 2015 1:52:14 GMT 9
All,
Thanks for your helpful comments! Glad to hear that there's still some documentation and wisdom about wing removal out there. (Especially the bit about it's more of a fuselage removal than a wing removal!)
I'm flying into El Paso today, and will start disassembly tomorrow. I'll post pictures here as we progress.
Thanks! Perry
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Post by pat perry on Nov 11, 2015 3:13:45 GMT 9
Thought you might like to see the California Science Center in LA where the El Paso F-106 will ultimately go. This may present a clock building opportunity for the Old Sarge.
californiasciencecenter.org
It's quite large and covers a lot of sciences. Admission if FREE and it's a great learning experience for kids.
Here's their aircraft exhibit page: californiasciencecenter.org/exhibits/air-space Focuses on flight science history.
Perry Roth-Johnson sent these quick cell phone pictures today from the work they did yesterday. They already have the fuselage on supports and have removed the landing gear and the wing tips. Not bad at all for day 1! Perry will have some more pictures as they progress.
Pat, Here are some quick pictures I snapped on my phone yesterday. mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/projectsavethesix We took the main landing gear off and lifted the plane onto stands.
In the process of copying pages of the -3 Tech Order to them, I found out that Lani Duquette has a copy of the -4 Tech Order (Illustrated Parts Breakdown) that was copied by Ogden, UT Depot for the guys working on the Sawyer Six project. Lani is loaning it to me so I can scan it for the F-106 website.
Pat P.
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Post by MOW on Nov 11, 2015 10:50:53 GMT 9
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Post by pat perry on Nov 14, 2015 2:39:21 GMT 9
Here's another El Paso F-106 update from Perry Roth-Johnson and Dennis Jenkins.
Perry wrote: Pat, We successfully removed both wings and our Six is ready to load on the truck tomorrow [Friday]. Thanks again for all your help! Best, Perry
Man, these guys are good and fast too! Pat P.
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Post by pat perry on Nov 14, 2015 5:42:48 GMT 9
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