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Post by pat perry on Feb 9, 2014 11:35:10 GMT 9
All, Can anyone help Bruce Gordon out? See below. Bobski
I sent Bruce some search tips but some of you may know Dr Micheal Weaver personally - Pat P.
From: brugor@mac.com To: robtcorr@verizon.net CC: Bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 2/5/2014 10:06:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Re: The early roll of ADC and the F-106 in ACM
Bob Correia -- copy to Bob Kwiecinski:
I am very interested in contacting the Dr. Michael E. Weaver, Associate Professor of History at the Air Command and Staff College . Do you have any more information about him?
My book, "The Spirit of Attack", is new and in process of being distributed at this time. It is available at AuthorHouse.com (which is my publisher) and just now on Amazon.com (but they don't have the book image). Nobody has it in e-book format yet, and they say it will be another three weeks before distribution is ready.
My point is about Dr. Weaver. On Page 50 of my book, I write about "Something Big". We had a very unusual Alert in September 1969, during which I buzzed seven Russian warships off the coast of North Korea. I am convinced that Russia was planning to attack China, and President Nixon called the Alert to scare the Russians, but didn't want it to be known to the US public. The Alert was Secret.
I have since found a paper by a Stamford professor, called "The Madman Nuclear Alert", which could explain what I saw. I have also found declassified papers by the State Department discussing a report that Russia was thinking of invading China (before China had a nuclear weapons delivery capability) and wanted the USA to stand aside while Russia took China. I found a translated Chinese report saying that this was the greatest crisis that China had ever faced. Henry Kissinger told President Nixon that Russia was morally correct in their current argument (over the Amur River border) but that Russia was more dangerous to the USA than China was, so we should back China. Then, after our remarkable Alert and my buzzing the Russian warships, a report in a British paper saying that Kosygin told Brezhnev that "The Americans have betrayed us".
It appears that the US reaction (which was hidden from the public) may have been important in keeping Russia from invading China in 1969. If so, it may be the biggest untold story of the Cold War.
It's something for the History Channel, except that there are a lot of loose ends. I can't quite connect the dots. "The Madman Nuclear Alert" paper indicates that Nixon was trying to scare the Russians away from Vietnam, although it does mention the China angle. The State Department papers indicate the USA was not as afraid of war between China and Russia as the Chinese were - although Henry Kissinger recently was quoted as saying that the situation was more serious than we thought. It is possible that Nixon was trying to scare the Russians from Vietnam, but the Russians interpreted his actions as keeping them from invading China. Were we on the brink of a world war with Russia and the USA misinterpreting each others' actions? I need a real historian who has access to records who could answer key questions.
This Dr. Weaver may be just the man.
Bruce=
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Post by Mark O on Feb 10, 2014 5:59:44 GMT 9
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Post by pat perry on Feb 17, 2014 1:29:04 GMT 9
You guys may be interested in the attached about F106 and Aerial Combat Training from Bruce Gordon. Bobski From: brugor@mac.com To: cebratfisch@kagres.kendal.org CC: Bobski9933@aol.com, meweaver@icloud.com Sent: 2/10/2014 10:39:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Early role of F-106 in ACM Carl -- This is the best article on the subject, by Dr. Michael Weaver: My book, "The Spirit of Attack", was published about two weeks ago and is now available in several websites, such as Amazon.com. My book is about flying fighters, not focusing on ACM. However, I include my experiences in the 94th Fighter Interceptor Squadron in the 1960's, where I taught ACM and participated in several of the programs that are well-documented by Michael Weaver. I battled against F-104s and F-4's before going to Korea, where we very nearly had a major combat with North Korean MIGs. At one point, I was flying #3 as our four F-106s challenged about 20 MIGs off the east coast of North Korea when they threatened an RC-121 reconnaissance plane. We went into our "Six Pac" formation and headed right for the MIGs, and they turned back when about 20 miles away. I wonder what the tactics books would say about what we should do with four F-106s against 20 MIGs! In any case, we attacked - if they hadn't turned back, there would have have been an air battle. I call that "The Spirit of Attack"! After Korea, I was transferred to the F-100 and had several missions of ACM training before going to Vietnam, where I flew 132 combat missions. I found that the F-106 was FAR superior to the F-100 in ACM, although my training in the F-106 enabled me to "wax the ass" of my instructor in the F-100. I also found that the F-100 has a huge amount of adverse yaw during combat maneuvers. Adverse yaw is seldom even noticeable in the F-106. You can turn to Michael Weaver's excellent article for good background information. My book is about how those things looked like from my cockpit! Bruce Gordon attached 13 page paper by Michael E. Weaver in PDF format 14-02-04TopGunF-106.pdf (267.8 KB) Pat P.
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Post by Mark O on Jun 16, 2014 14:10:07 GMT 9
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Post by pat perry on Jun 23, 2014 0:33:05 GMT 9
Thanks Bruce for the stories! Bobski
On Jul 17, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Bruce Gordon <brugor@me.com> wrote:
Jim --
As stated in my "Spirit of Attack" book (and video), I was involved in three UFO incidents in Alaska and one in Ohio. All were in the 1960's.
My first UFO was a nighttime Scramble from King Salmon AFS in the Aleutian peninsula. The control tower operator at McGrath reported a UFO circling his control tower. Two of us arrived, went down to low level around his control tower. He said it was still there, but I but couldn't see any UFO. I looked around and saw the planet Venus in the pre-dawn sky, unusually bright. A single bright light in a black background will seem to move around. I think his UFO was actually Venus.
The second was a radar blip on our defense search radars, over the Bering Sea. It was tracked as a ship, as it slowly moved toward shore. When it crossed the shore, we declared it a UFO and scrambled fighters to intercept it. They found a balloon at low altitude, with a gondola. Our missiles would have homed in on the gondola, so we took a sergeant's suggestion and hooked a small boat anchor, with sharpened flukes, to the end of a tow target reel and flew a T-33 over the balloon so the anchor hooked the balloon, popped it, and brought down the gondola on land. The Army went to investigate it, but I never heard what they found.
The third was when I was making a practice attack on a low-level target near the Yukon river, central Alaska. I happened to look up and saw a bright star. It was mid-afternoon, so there should be no stars! I broke off the attack, declared that I was going after a UFO, and climbed my fighter to 45,000 feet, my maximum altitude while flying in a circle under the UFO. At that altitude I could see that it was a high-altitude balloon with a gondola under it.
As I watched, I was amazed to see the balloon pop, with a large piece of material streaming up from the canopy as the balloon fell. Then, the gondola detached from the balloon and fell, a small pilot chute coming out to stabilize it. Then another, larger parachute deployed and the gondola fell more slowly. My narration of these events over the radio apparently had a lot of attention, from comments that came. Even though the gondola had now fallen for several minutes, it was still far, far above me and I was running low on fuel. The Command Center had vectored in a C-130 transport, far below me, which reported that they had the gondola and parachute in sight. I broke off and returned to base to get fuel. They later told me that the C-130 had followed the gondola until it impacted in the tundra, and a team of Army soldiers went by helicopter to examine it.
My fourth event was in Ohio. I was flying a T-33 as night low-altitude target for interceptors. I carried two full chaff tanks (chaff used to be tin foil, but now it is zinc-covered fiberglass, usually a couple of centimeters in length). I had nearly completed my target run with no fighters coming after me, when I heard on the radio that an F-101 fighter was after a low-altitude target, and it sounded like it was after me. I had plenty of chaff, so I turned on both my chaff dispensers to maximum rate dump, hoping to break his radar lock on me. He was able to stay locked onto me. As he caught me, he deliberately "buzzed" my cockpit, lit his two afterburners and pulled almost straight up. His afterburners and flashing anti-collision lights made quite a spectacle.
Them I read in the Detroit newspaper that a farmer had reported a UFO that night. The farmer's dog was barking, so he took his gun and went to see if the dog was after a raccoon or a skunk. Suddenly he heard a great roar and a boom. He looked up to see flashing colored lights and two balls of fire going up into the heavens! In the morning, the farmer found that his whole field was covered with little bits of something that looked like fiberglass...
I think I was the UFO that night!
I also had some interesting experiences with St. Elmo's Fire, which appeared frequently when flying at night in weather, especially in thunderstorms. However, I knew what that was, so I never count it as a UFO. Some airliners seem to report St Elmo's Fire as UFOs, as it can follow you and occasionally comes inside the cockpit with you. Once I had ball lightning attach to my plane. Scary!
Bruce
Thanks for the great stories, Bruce! Pat P.
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Post by pat perry on Jun 23, 2014 0:52:59 GMT 9
Looks like this is still going on! Bobski
forum.f-106deltadart.com/post/new/4684
Excerpt: By Richard Sisk Thursday, June 12th, 2014 5:55 pm Posted in Air
Northern Command scrambled two F-22 Raptor and two F-15 Eagle fighters on Monday against a fleet of Russian bombers off the Alaska and northern California coasts, Pentagon officials said Thursday.
The Russian planes included four long-range Tu-95 Bear bombers and a refueling aircraft that briefly entered the U.S. Air Defense Identification Zone off Alaska at about 4:30 p.m. Pacific time.
Pat P.
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Post by Mark O on Jun 23, 2014 2:17:15 GMT 9
Pat P. - Thanks for posting that from Bruce! I love that stuff!
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Jun 23, 2014 4:33:51 GMT 9
The stories from Bruce are great.
Thanks, Pat P., for positing.
Jim Too
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Post by pat perry on Mar 10, 2016 4:08:27 GMT 9
This is a good post to put the following because it has a link to Bruce Gordon's book, Spirit of Attack. For those who attended the All troops F-106 Reunions in Dayton and Colorado Springs, you remember Bruce's excellent presentations. You can search on Bruce Gordon on this site and find a number of his stories. Most fighter pilots enjoy telling their stories at the bar but Bruce did them one better, he WROTE THEM DOWN! Now, he has created and narrated some short videos that on YouTube that your will really enjoy. Pat P.
F102 and F106 Troops, Here's an excellent YouTube video made by Bruce Gordon. One of his stories about Russian Bombers flying over Alaska and F102 intercepts. Thanks Bruce! Bobski
All F106 Troops, Here's an excellent YouTube video made by Bruce Gordon highlighting the encounters with North Korean Migs over Korea in 1969. We were TDY with the 94th FIS at the time.
Thanks Bruce! Bobski
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