Jim Scanlon (deceased)
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Dec 30, 2012 9:51:08 GMT 9
Got this from our son, the Air Traffic Controller at Laredo. I was fascinated by the way the pilots control the plane. No stick or yoke, all electronics. Can you imagine what would happen if the bird was hit by a large EMP? HMMM?  He wrote: "Thought you might like this. I think It's the inaugural flight into SFO of A380."Check out this video on YouTube: Jim Too  |
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Post by LBer1568 on Dec 31, 2012 1:01:18 GMT 9
They have a stick/yoke very similat to F-16, fly by wire game console stick.
Having flown in many heavy Simulators, that is freaking amasing technology. I bet it is triple redundant. That was a FAA requirement.
I actually worked with FAA to certify a Civilian simulator. A Boeing 767. Those are also high tech, but still have mechanical/hydraulic direct connect.
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Post by Jim on Dec 31, 2012 2:45:02 GMT 9
Whoa, it might be technology--- BUT with no proof that that EM whatever couldn't happen, I still want either a wheel sticking out from the panel, or a stick between my legs. I know of 2 cases where a six LOST absolutely all electrical power, yes even the battery died before he got back.... Both cases involved CSD failures. One exploded internally and the other had an engine gearbox failure... Both cases blew the gear down (mechanical linkage to the valve), RAT door opened mechanically and slip stream drove a fan that drove a hyd pump to power the flight controls... Both a/c lived to fly out their lives- 0043 is still alive at DM..... I guess to technerds having a driver use a keyboard (that is all I saw) would be comforting.. How soon will it be before that dude driving won't even be on the plane? Emergencies announced by some one in India, or worse yet a robot voice activated by the driver sitting in a back room at O'Hare Field? ?? no thanks................... |
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Jim Scanlon (deceased)
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Commander South Texas outpost of the County Sligo Squadron
Currently: Offline
Posts: 5,075
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Retired: USAF
NBA: Spurs
NFL: Niners
MLB: Giants
NHL: Penguins
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Dec 31, 2012 5:34:30 GMT 9
I wrote my son about the possibility of an EMP or Lightning strike knocking out power. He sent the following. The part in red is from the Wikipedia article below it. "The Airbus A380 has the largest RAT propeller in the world at 1.63 m in diameter, but around 80 cm is more common." (That is about 64 inches.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_air_turbineI'm still not convinced on the total "fly by wire" concept. Yes, the RAT would give it enough power to land, maybe, but how about half-way between SFO and Honolulu. I'm with Jim, I want something other than a robot to fly the plane I am in. Jim Too :  |
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Post by lindel on Jan 1, 2013 22:04:30 GMT 9
I wrote my son about the possibility of an EMP or Lightning strike knocking out power. He sent the following. The part in red is from the Wikipedia article below it. "The Airbus A380 has the largest RAT propeller in the world at 1.63 m in diameter, but around 80 cm is more common." (That is about 64 inches.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_air_turbineI'm still not convinced on the total "fly by wire" concept. Yes, the RAT would give it enough power to land, maybe, but how about half-way between SFO and Honolulu. I'm with Jim, I want something other than a robot to fly the plane I am in. Jim Too Technically, even over water it would give you enough power to land (touchdown), but you might (will) get a little damp... As dangerous as an EMP might be to aircraft, it's effect would be limited to those in it's immediate area. Far more dangerous would be it's effect to communications to said aircraft from ground sources. Not to mention ground nav facilities, surveillance radar and other little doo-dads controllers use to keep track of aircraft these days...(heaven forbid that they should look out the window...) |
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Post by Tom Dlugosh on Jan 2, 2013 3:46:35 GMT 9
What window?
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Post by lindel on Jan 2, 2013 4:59:49 GMT 9
Air Traffic controllers work in a glass house, so to speak. Basically all windows, and usually several stories off the ground.
Most of them get so caught up in their radar screens and displays, they forget that they can see most of the aircraft they talk to if they just look up once in a while.
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Post by pat perry on Jul 4, 2014 21:23:33 GMT 9
I wrote my son about the possibility of an EMP or Lightning strike knocking out power. He sent the following. The part in red is from the Wikipedia article below it. "The Airbus A380 has the largest RAT propeller in the world at 1.63 m in diameter, but around 80 cm is more common." (That is about 64 inches.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_air_turbineI'm still not convinced on the total "fly by wire" concept. Yes, the RAT would give it enough power to land, maybe, but how about half-way between SFO and Honolulu. I'm with Jim, I want something other than a robot to fly the plane I am in. Jim Too : Speaking of RATs... as in Ram Air Turbine
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