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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Mar 8, 2012 3:29:44 GMT 9
This has to be one of the neatest web sites whether you have gasoline in your veins or not. This is a web-site featuring the original factory brochures for nearly every American car you have ever owned. Pick the manufacturer, the year and the model. Enjoy! www.lov2xlr8.no/broch1.html
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Post by Gene on Mar 8, 2012 6:05:16 GMT 9
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Post by LBer1568 on Mar 8, 2012 6:16:38 GMT 9
Awesome. I spent 30 minutes looking at cars I have owned starting with my first, a 1956 ford crown vic. Wish I still had it.
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Post by MOW on Mar 8, 2012 8:08:48 GMT 9
Damn, that is addicting! Couldn't stop clicking.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 8:41:10 GMT 9
My old 57 Dodge Coronet, with the Mandarin Orange and Black paint job. Called it the Chinese bandit, what a boat, but it had the Red Ram engine in it, and it would get out of it's own way. Except that push button transmission was trash.
Gas at less than a quarter a gallon. Fill up for a week for 5 bucks or less. Of course, cigarettes were about a half a buck too.
Of course, after the service I made 52.50 a week, that didnt last long.
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Post by MOW on Mar 8, 2012 8:47:36 GMT 9
That '77 Jeep Honcho J-10 pickup brought back a flood of K.I. memories with the plow on the front, the feet and feet of snow each year, the cold winds the Union 76 ball on the antenna... I loved that truck, one of the best ever!
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Post by lindel on Mar 8, 2012 10:06:25 GMT 9
There is still a very active following for the full size Jeeps (I'm a member of that too...)
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Post by MOW on Mar 8, 2012 10:33:10 GMT 9
There is still a very active following for the full size Jeeps (I'm a member of that too...) I've owned a Jeep for as long as I can remember, it's always been part of the family vehicle fleet. That '77 J-10 was my last full size. I went to the smaller Cherokee after that. But the CJs and now Wranglers have always been a member. Still driving my '94 Wrangler here.
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Post by lindel on Mar 8, 2012 21:20:40 GMT 9
1987 Grand Wagoneer and 99 TJ here. I've probably owned 12 to 15 different full sized, my favorite being a 79 Cherokee Wide Trac. This is my first TJ. The wife won't drive anything but a Full size Jeep. If you get the urge, wander over to www.ifsja.org and look around.
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Post by MOW on Mar 8, 2012 23:08:18 GMT 9
Yea, my mini Cherokee was an 86. Nice vehicle and fit the need at the time, but it was not the same as a full size. '75 Cherokee Chief! Another one of my favorites! I've had more CJ's than anything though, couple CJ-7's and bunch of CJ-5's. This '95 YJ Wrangler was the first of it's line in my family.
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Post by Mark O on Mar 9, 2012 0:35:43 GMT 9
I found my 1985 CJ-7. The color was right, but the decals were slightly different, and I had only the left side mirror on mine. That was unique I found out later!
My dad found a BUNCH of his old cars!
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Post by Jim on Mar 9, 2012 2:08:53 GMT 9
And I found nothing........... The first was a 1951 Chysler New Yorker Town and country station wagon with a safety clutch (Power Flite ?) transmission. The next was a 1957 GMC truck with the biggest Pontiac V8 made and a special Rochester carb that was not suppose to have been on that vehicle. GM bought it back for 200.00 and put a Carter 2 barrel on it.. BTW, gas milage dropped about 4 mile s a gal to around 16.. Next was 1962 GMC with the first V6 305- got 20 mpg whether it was up or down hill..... Next was a Honda (forget model) pickup truck to haul my bikes to the races (in Japan). This was a 4 cylinder, dual ohc, 4 cvc carbs, 5 speed bugger.. Max speed was 55-60 mph- but Japanese laws was only 60 klicks...... Next was a 1970 Chevy Suburban station wagon, a 196? Ford Ranchero with a 289, then a Chevette crap, enough wasted space, I now drive a 2001 Ford Windstar with 123k plus miles on it......
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2012 3:01:57 GMT 9
We had a 59 Batwing Chevy Impala, and I found out that GM was doing a lot of odd things with engines to help the auto racing programs. I couldnt figure out why I was constantly beating out Mercury Marauder engines (391), Chevy 327's (we supposedly had a 283), etc.
Finally spoke with one of the mechanics at the dealership and found out that the engine we had was not "stock", it was a special issue with some confidential upgrades. 2 bbl carb was not stock, tranny was not stock, manifolds were different, and cam and other stuff was of unnamed origin.
This stuff apparently happened from the early 50's to the mid 60's or so.
Didnt really care, but continued to blow the doors off Mercury's and other blue oval cars, that's all that mattered.
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Post by Jim on Mar 9, 2012 4:26:26 GMT 9
From a SIX driver
Awsome !
Here's one for you engineering guys...and a good read!
Read this thru slowly and try to comprehend the amount of force produced in just under 4 seconds! The last paragraph puts it all into perspective !
There are no rockets or airplanes built by any government in the world that can accelerate from a standing start as fast as a Top Fuel Dragster or Funny Car…..and that includes any aircraft launched by a catapult from an aircraft carrier. Nothing can compare…..
DEFINITION OF ACCELERATION
One top fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows of stock cars at the Daytona 500.
It takes just 15/100ths (0.15) of a second for all 6,000+ horsepower (some believe 8,000 HP is more realistic - there are no dynamometers capable of measuring) of an NHRA Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels.
Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.
A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger. With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.
Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.
At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture of nitro methane, the flame front temperature measures 7,050 deg F. (Oxy-acetylene on "cut" is 6,300)
Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases. Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.
Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during one pass. After halfway, the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400 deg F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.
If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half. In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.
Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.
Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.
The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.
Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimate $1,000.00 per second.
The current top fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.428 seconds for the quarter mile (11/12/06, Tony Schumacher, at Pomona , CA ). The top speed record is 336.15 mph as measured over the last 66' of the run (05/25/05 Tony Schumacher, at Hebron , OH ).
Putting all of this into perspective:
You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter 'twin-turbo' powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and pass the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that instant.
The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.
Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.
...... and that my friend, is ACCELERATION!
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Post by lindel on Mar 9, 2012 5:14:20 GMT 9
And man...it is fun to watch!
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Post by pat perry on Mar 9, 2012 8:34:22 GMT 9
...... and that my friend, is ACCELERATION!As an add to Jim's piece on acceleration this came form Dick Brannon an old Ford Drag Racer. Hi Guys, The ground effects top fuel funny car I designed for Kenny Bernstein set a record 0-60 time of 0.4 seconds in 1987 - a record that lasted 24 years. It was a large and heavy car by today's standards, but it's secret was a ground effects system that created roughly 1,000 lbs. of aero down force while the car was stationary just prior to launch - and rapidly built to 10,000 lbs. at the finish line. (note: the zoomie exhaust headers provided part of the downthrust at 0 MPH) It easily got the jump on it rivals, and they simply couldn't catch-up in the remaining 5 seconds of the race even though they were often traveling 20 mph faster at the finish line. We had no way to reduce the excessive down force and tire rolling resistance that built up at higher speeds, so with "only" about 6,000 horsepower, the car's acceleration softened - much as if it were running in soft sand. The car's top speed was only about 270 mph which set no records, but Kenny laughed all the way to the bank - knowing that in drag racing Elapsed Time wins races not the car's speed at the end of the race. (Note: This was back when Funny Cars were producing 6000 HP and were learning the importance of aerodynamics. After the rules change, Funny Cars and Dragsters today are now approaching around 14,000 pounds of down force with their aero packages and 2000 more horsepower to provide faster acceleration and speed) See part 2 in the next post Attachments:
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Post by pat perry on Mar 9, 2012 8:47:52 GMT 9
In recent years, the top speeds of dragsters were reaching 335 MPH. Some of the shorter tracks had become dangerously short in event of a parachute failure despite the presence of a big sand-trap at the end of the pavement. A couple of years ago, some catastrophic crashes killed top drivers when their parachutes failed and they hit the sand traps so fast they skipped right across the top. Liability insurers complained, and NHRA was forced to shorten the traditional 1/4-mile distance to 1,000 ft. simply to slow the cars down. Initially, that slowed everybody about 35 mph, but the teams quickly reconfigured the cars for the shorter distance and the top speeds have already climbed back up to 325 MPH. It's a safe bet there will never be another 1/4-mile drag race for the professional Top Fuel classes. The cars became too fast for existing tracks that couldn't be lengthened. Today's fastest Top Fuel Dragster finally appear to have bettered my old 0-60 time by a tiny bit. Page 52 of the February, 2011 issue of Popular Mechanics magazine quotes some acceleration figures of interest. The figures are for Tony Schumacher's current world record holder in top fuel dragster: 0.00 sec. 00.00 feet 00.00 mph 0.50 sec. 10.27 feet 73.89 mph 1.00 sec. 51.94 feet 113.82 mph 1.50 sec. 125.09 feet 162.45 mph 2.00 sec. 231.91 feet 213.09 mph 2.50 sec. 379.86 feet 248.50 mph 3.00 sec. 566.16 feet 271.62 mph 3.50 sec. 783.62 feet 293.41 mph 3.83 sec. 1,000 feet 321.58 mph If you graph these numbers out, you'll see that Schumacher's car achieves 0-60 mph in 0.38 seconds in the phenomenally short distance of just eight feet! My old Funny Car took 0.4 seconds, but the distance required was about fifteen feet because the funny car was heavier and had more inertia. So our 24 year-old record is broken. Although today's cars have no significant amount of ground effects down force, I estimate they do have close to 13,000 lbs of total aero down force at top speed, and they have 9,000 horsepower to cope with all the aero and rolling drag. (Note: acceleration in a Fuel Dragster or Funny Car is now +5 G on launch and -5 G on chute deployment. The blowers (superchargers) and dual 95 gal per minute fuel pumps now require 1000 HP just to drive them. And they have a 0 to 330 MPH time of 3.8 seconds in 1000 feet. The car's weight is 2250 pounds at 0 mph and 16250 at 330 MPH thanks to aero packages of front and rear wings and cunards. They are not allowed to use digital computers to control - just to record sensor readings. They are allowed to use pneumatic controllers to regulate fuel flow, spark advance and clutch slippage). Pat P. Attachments:
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Post by pat perry on Mar 9, 2012 9:33:58 GMT 9
At age 18 I bought a used 58 Chev Impala 235 6-cylinder standard shift 3 speed with 4.10 rear gear - my first reliable car.
The cam drive gear was fiber and broke a tooth and froze the engine. I worked in a auto machine shop and built a 327 short block with fuel injection heads and cam, dual Carter AFB 4 barrel carbs and a 12 pound Schieffer aluminum flywheel. The engine sound was rugged and the low gear allowed me to beat anything in the first 300 feet from a stop light.
I couldn't afford a T-10 4 speed tranny so the engine wound tight in low gear and I stopped racing after 300 feet - didn't want to attract the law with high speed. The car had no V-8 emblems because it was born with a 6 cylinder. Surprised a few ready racers at stop lights.
Then came the draft notice and I sold it and joined the USAF.
Wish I'd put it in a barn... would be worth big bucks today for restoration.
Pat P.
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Post by ma1marv on Mar 9, 2012 21:03:54 GMT 9
Sometimes there is a post that REALLY grabs my attention - this is one! It reminded me to take a look at the cars brochures for the "56 Mercury Monterrey Phaeton" I had when I graduated from high school.
That 56 Merc started as a stock Monterrey with LOTS of chrome! inside and out! I think the Montclair had more but not by much! My old Merc had a few changes when I finally parted with it just before I went into the Air Force.
I replaced the stock 292 with a built up 352 interceptor that I managed to remove from a wrecked Nebraska Hiway Patrol chase car! I saw it get wrecked on a Thursday evening - went to the wrecking yard on Friday with some friends and removed it, then worked all night on Friday until Saturday morning to install it into the 56. I had found an old wrecked 56 Merc with a standard shift and removed all the pedals, steering column and everything I needed to make over my car. All the parts went in without a hitch. When I was done, my 56 Merc had that 352 engine with a heavy duty clutch behind it, coupled to a 4 speed from a 1962 ford Galaxy and the bucket seats were also from that same 1962 Galaxy. It was a bit of a dog off the line but I could wrap the speedometer past 120 and break it - in third gear! This was before we had the full Interstate 80 highway here in Nebraska.
Ah yes - memories! I do wish I still had that Merc! The 1962 Ford Galaxy would have been nice to have as well!
Marv :fire_missle_ani :patriotic-flagwaver
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