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Post by keith19 on Jul 28, 2011 10:19:47 GMT 9
Here are the other pics. Attachments:
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Post by keith19 on Jul 28, 2011 10:21:20 GMT 9
ok one at a time.... Attachments:
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Post by Mark O on Jul 28, 2011 11:39:42 GMT 9
First off, something just hit me. Why isn't there an opening in the BACK of that thing? It should be hollow, and that doesn't look like it would hold the actual "tube" of a pitot tube, or the connections to provide anti-ice heat. Maybe it's some kind of ground marker after all. Is there some kind of cover on the back of it? Is it even hollow? That said, here's a close-up shot of an F-104 pitot tube I found on the interwebby. Notice how there are three, distinct parts of the assembly. 4.bp.blogspot.com/_0d0yPr83beI/TAwznlSDO8I/AAAAAAAAKyc/XtZP6XKRte4/s1600/DSC_1483.JPGHere's a couple shots of a modified pitot tube -- probably for display purposes -- of the F-104 on display at Dyess AFB. (I took these photos.) Note the tip has been removed, and a plug without an opening has been put in it's place. It is clearly shorter than the tube on the aircraft in the link above. I think they removed the forward two segments. The part remaining is just aft of the double set of screws that can be seen in the linked photo, and put the plug in the tube. Interesting. Mark
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Post by MOW on Jul 28, 2011 17:34:34 GMT 9
Yup, I'm convinced it's not a pitot tube at all. No opening in the nose, which could be explained, but not being hollow with no opening in the back? It was either a dummy for something, a marker pole, which wouldn't make sense putting a nice pointy end on it, or some static display prop.
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Post by MOW on Jul 28, 2011 17:38:11 GMT 9
Keith, BTW, :welcome :salute glad you made it over
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Post by keith19 on Jul 29, 2011 0:06:53 GMT 9
The tube is hollow, in one of my previous posts there is a pic of the aft end, it has a slot in it that had been mashed by a hammer at some point, and it seems the end piece was removable, as well as the forward tip. I did think about it being some type of stake marker for surveying, but it seems to much engineering and machining went into it to make just stake to pound into the ground, plus the fact the red and white stripes seem to match what was used for pitot tubes, the forward tip and tube do not appear to have been driven into the ground. i have only had hands on experience with c-130 pitot tubes, being a loadmaster for 8 years, the tips of those seem to be removable, i'll keep searching, perhaps a trip to some aviation museums are in order.
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Post by Jim on Jul 29, 2011 0:54:57 GMT 9
Keith, you sure generated some talk in here........ How about going back the trash pile and look for something else............. Maybe check out some of the old Nike sites..... Check the utility room in the ADC hangar, the room where the pumps for the heated floor system were located- that use to be a good place to hide things..... I used the steam to bend the bows for the canoes I built while at Loring.... How is the fishing at Munsons pond near Ft Fairfield.... Do you live around Loring? ?? I have a friend that lives (lived) in Caswell that lost touch with.................... The Old Sarge
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Post by Jim on Jul 29, 2011 1:01:32 GMT 9
from Mark, (Is that yellow paint just aft of the radome? You can kind of see it in the link below my name, but not on the twisted versions below.)
No, it is zinc chromate, the anti glare paint didn't stick very well on the flange on the radome....... Crew chiefs use to keep a spray paint in their tool box to touch it up.....Finally cured it by stripping off the zinc chromate and steelwooling the aluminumn and priming it with red iron oxide... This was on 3-5 a/c...........
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Post by Mark O on Jul 29, 2011 9:37:21 GMT 9
from Mark, (Is that yellow paint just aft of the radome? You can kind of see it in the link below my name, but not on the twisted versions below.) No, it is zinc chromate, the anti glare paint didn't stick very well on the flange on the radome....... Crew chiefs use to keep a spray paint in their tool box to touch it up.....Finally cured it by stripping off the zinc chromate and steelwooling the aluminumn and priming it with red iron oxide... This was on 3-5 a/c........... Thanks! I first thought it might be ZC, but then thought, "Maybe that was intentional." In the photo it does look kind of good in a very subtle way! (Maybe not close up though?) Mark
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Post by Mark O on Jul 29, 2011 9:46:08 GMT 9
... (I) have only had hands on experience with C-130 pitot tubes, being a loadmaster for 8 years, the tips of those seem to be removable, (I)'ll keep searching, perhaps a trip to some aviation museums are in order. Ah ha!! Another Herk guy! Keith, you're to new to probably know, especially since my avatar changed, but I am a newly retired C-130E/H/H1 Flight Engineer. In fact, I'm still on terminal leave, and carrying my active duty ID card. I got another month-and-change (Sep 1) before I officially retire. When, and with who did you fly with? I spent all my FE days with the 40th Airlift Squadron at Dyess. Before that I was a KC-135 crew chief, and before that I was in the US Army (active, guard, and reserve.) We C-130 guys get around! Mark P.S. Thanks for the info on the, ... whatever you have!!
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Post by LBer1568 on Jul 29, 2011 23:05:54 GMT 9
Maybe it was part of a Giant Set of Lawn Jarts? I wonder if it has attachment points on the rear for the plastic wings. If it were proportionant to Lawn Jarts, how far apart would the rings be placed?
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Post by sixerviper on Jan 17, 2012 8:40:19 GMT 9
In my 'umble opinion, the depicted "pitot tube & boom" are not real, and certainly not off a Six. I had the pleasure of working the Six from the 646/420/320/721 days through the CPU-111 days, but before the PUP mod. Part of the CPU-111 mod was a new pitot tube. Anybody remember the Rube Goldberg-ish TTU-205 adapter for the new tube that had about seven hose clamps on it to make the tube seal inside it? The 646's pitot-static adapter was much simpler to use. Most closeup Six pitot tube pics in this thread are of the CPU-111 tube. However, Mark O's pic is of the old 646 tube. I say this to the best of my memory, which is now some forty-two years old. The boom was hollow and had to be removed completely in order to replace the tube or work on the heater wiring. It was a no-no to let the tube dangle from the hoses when the boom was removed, so we seldom worked those jobs solo. Damn! This is bringing back some memories!! I guess I was unaware of an earlier tube than the 646's tube, or did they put another one on the jet after the CPU-111 tube?
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Post by shadowgunner on Jan 18, 2012 11:45:03 GMT 9
Here's a shot of our T-38 Pitot (at PCAM)
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Post by shadowgunner on Jan 18, 2012 11:47:27 GMT 9
And here's a closeup. Remarkable similarities; although ours is open on the end.
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Post by Mark O on Jan 18, 2012 12:52:38 GMT 9
Yes, but the T-38 doesn't narrow down, then bulge back out. Very cool photos by the way!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 3:42:08 GMT 9
It actually looks like a jousting lance, and the guy hit the lower part of the horse, taking a memento with him.
Did the horse sing tenor or soprano after that round???
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