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Post by Tom Dlugosh on Oct 19, 2010 5:41:06 GMT 9
Last night, on the TV shoe "Undercover Boss", the final scene is shot in an aircraft museum somewhere. In the back round, although not very clear, looked to be an F-106. It was behind the crowd and all I could make out was the vertical stabilizer, the canopy and the intakes. There was also a B-1, an F-4 and a T-33. Has anyone any idea what museum this would be? It would probably be near Frontier Airlines (the subject of the show) headquarters.
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Post by Jim on Oct 19, 2010 8:31:44 GMT 9
Last night, on the TV shoe "Undercover Boss", the final scene is shot in an aircraft museum somewhere. In the back round, although not very clear, looked to be an F-106. It was behind the crowd and all I could make out was the vertical stabilizer, the canopy and the intakes. There was also a B-1, an F-4 and a T-33. Has anyone any idea what museum this would be? It would probably be near Frontier Airlines (the subject of the show) headquarters. and realitytvmagazine.sheknows.com/blog/2010/10/17/undercover-boss-frontier-airlines/ Tried to find B-! static displays or exhibits no luck other than Warner-Robbins AFB |
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Post by Mark O on Oct 19, 2010 16:16:06 GMT 9
Here's the museum you saw. www.wingsmuseum.org/exhibit_aircraft.aspWings over the Rockies Air & Space Museum at the old Lowry AFB in Aurora, CO. (Frontier is based out of Denver.) They don't have an F-106, but they are proud to say they have five other Century Series jets, so it had to be an F-102 you saw. They also have a B-1A. I used to take my kids there when they were little. It's a pretty nice museum. Mark (Edit - 700th post! Sure took me long enough!) |
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Post by Bullhunter on Oct 19, 2010 20:35:51 GMT 9
Mark, I like the paint job on their B-52.
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Post by jimpadgett on Oct 19, 2010 22:04:42 GMT 9
The deuce specs are mixed up with F-101 and F-106. I alerted them to some: nuclear, rotating weapons rack, but not speed capability or use/stowage of 2.75" rockets or ground piloting of aircraft.
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Post by Mark O on Oct 19, 2010 23:46:08 GMT 9
Mark, I like the paint job on their B-52. When I lived in Denver some clown actually set that BUFF on fire to protest the government. They have a note about it on the plaque in front of the display now. "In 1998, an arsonist attempted to set fire to the bomber in protest over U.S. foreign policy. Although causing over $250,000 worth of damage to the aircraft, the individual was caught and the museum's volunteer corps came to the rescue. After more than six months of work, Wings volunteers brought "005" back to life."From the UPI... DENVER, July 13 (UPI) -- A Denver-area man has been arrested on charges he climbed on top of a B-52 bomber and set it afire outside the aviation museum at Lowry Air Force Base. Police say two witnesses caught the suspect, identified as 34-year-old Page Penk, who reportedly gathered more than 10,000 signatures on a petition seeking a world ban on land mines in 1996. Firefighters say the blaze left $250,000 dollars damage to the Korean War-era jet, which is one of the first B-52s made. The plane -- now deactivated -- was purchased in 1953 and on loan to the museum by the military. Wings Over the Rockies Air and Space Museum manager Ron Newberg said the damage estimate may be low because the aircraft is so old, and many of its parts are irreplaceable. Denver Fire Department spokesman Mike McNeill says witnesses spotted Penk standing on top of the jet, pouring liquid on the fuselage. He jumped to the ground as the plane burst into flames. The Denver Post says Penk circulated petition calling for a global ban on land mines. Gov. Roy Romer was among 10,000 Coloradans who signed the petition.
--- Copyright 1998 by United Press International. All rights reserved. ---That event sure P.O.'d a bunch of us vets in Denver at the time. I haven't thought of that actually in years, and it still gets my goat. Mark |
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Post by Tom Dlugosh on Oct 20, 2010 2:28:23 GMT 9
That is the museum! I've was there a couple of years ago and knew they didn't have a '6, but thought they might have gotten one. It must have been the duece I saw in the back round, but people were obstructing the view.
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Post by falconkeeper on Oct 20, 2010 3:38:10 GMT 9
Jim, I saw the 2.75 rocket tubes on the deuce when I went to Tyndall for live fire in '78. I took a good look at a Deuce drone and the tubes are in the doors. It only carries 12. 3 tubes coming out of each door section. I was startled to see them. Also, the Deuce carried the AIM-26 nuclear Falcon missile. It did have nuke capabilities.
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Post by ducedude on Oct 20, 2010 5:18:59 GMT 9
The F-102 carried 24 2.75 rockets in the doors and six missiles in the weapon bay.
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Post by falconkeeper on Oct 20, 2010 6:06:00 GMT 9
Thanks for the correction, Ducedude. Could the AIM-26 be carried on any of the 6 stations?
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Post by jimpadgett on Oct 20, 2010 10:53:00 GMT 9
Thanks ducedude. I didn't know that.
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Post by biendhoa on Oct 20, 2010 11:12:08 GMT 9
I am pretty sure they had a mod that enabled them to carry up tp two GAR 11/AIM-26 nuke tipped missiles.Though i am not positive.Maybe one of the missile toads knows for sure.
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Post by MOW on Oct 20, 2010 21:33:04 GMT 9
The F-102 carried 24 2.75 rockets in the doors and six missiles in the weapon bay. I left the F-106 program in '84 following the 318th F-15 conversion and I went to Hill AFB, UT. I spent a lot of time working at the museum there, although at that time there was no museum, just a bunch of planes sitting in pieces in an old fenced-in parking lot behind the Youth Center across the street from housing. It was in that lot I put together the F-84G and the F-102A that now sit at the museum. We hung wings, gears and everything, damn those were the days. On the deuce I put one of my previous 318th Det 1 commanders name on the canopy LtCol Fortmeyer (spelling, I need to dig out the old photo's, and I think he was a Maj, damn I can't recall now), and of course my name as CC. I was at Hill until late '87. During that time we got the land near the Roy gate for the museum and then got a building put up. And I was there long enough to get the deuce painted by the depot guys and towed it down the road all the way to it's spot. Anywaaaaaayyy, what the hell is the point here you ask ;D well as I was putting that deuce together I noticed the rocket launcher holes in the missile bay doors, which I thought was pretty cool considering I'd just come off the Six which didn't have them. THAT IS ALL, OUT |
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Post by jimpadgett on Oct 20, 2010 23:27:01 GMT 9
Yea, Pat. We used the 2.75s in Iceland. They were pretty touchy to handle I am told. Had a deuce crash in Iceland and the armament toads had to stay at the crash site until the last one (of 24) was accounted for. Found in a mud puddle just large enough to hold it. Also, had one go off the side of the runway on landing collapsing the right main. My roommate volunteered to download those 2.75s with the aircraft on airbags. I still think he was a little nuts, but he got her done. Then a bubble chaser swung another main with the AC still on airbags. I know he was nuts.
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Post by Bullhunter on Oct 21, 2010 0:59:38 GMT 9
Yep, I remember my museum days when I put a team together and recovered an F-86D for a civilian airport north of Seattle.
Tucked the gear and pulled the wings. The wings went on one flatbed and the fuselage on another. We trucked it all the way down I-5 to McChord the puit it all back together.
The F-86D had a radar and a door & rack up front from where it launched missles. Looked like 2.75's went in the rack.
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Post by Mark O on Oct 21, 2010 1:10:59 GMT 9
It was in that lot I put together the F-84G and the F-102A that now sit at the museum. We hung wings, gears and everything, damn those were the days. On the deuce I put one of my previous 318th Det 1 commanders name on the canopy LtCol Fortmeyer (spelling, I need to dig out the old photo's, and I think he was a Maj, damn I can't recall now), and of course my name as CC. Yea, you guys remember this thread I put up about a year and a half ago or so? forum.f-106deltadart.com/index.cgi?board=displays&action=display&thread=1049&page=1A few pics of the Duece at Hill in there. Oregon markings w/ the Shamrock! Mark |
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Post by Jim on Oct 21, 2010 1:59:44 GMT 9
Jim, I saw the 2.75 rocket tubes on the deuce when I went to Tyndall for live fire in '78. I took a good look at a Deuce drone and the tubes are in the doors. It only carries 12. 3 tubes coming out of each door section. I was startled to see them. Also, the Deuce carried the AIM-26 nuclear Falcon missile. It did have nuke capabilities. Those were only the front 12........The vent holes were of course for the rocket exhaust, the flapper seals had switches that prevented the rear rockets from firing if the fwd rocket failed to fire......... Didn't always work as planned tho.............. The Mickey Mouse rocket was really voltage sensitive. Static electricity from a passing fuel truck launched 12 of f my 86 when we were at Wheelus for Gunnery............ It was nothing to see sparks jumping from a moving object/vehicle during a gibley(sand storm coming in from the Lybian desert)-humidity could drop as much as 45 % in minuites.................And to think that old Khadafi was only a corporal in the army then...........................The Old Sarge |
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Oct 21, 2010 2:36:30 GMT 9
Seamus, I wonder if anyone kept score of the F-86D/L incidents, where Mickey Mouse Rockets were fired through the nose wheel well.
It seems to have happened a pretty good number of times.
We had it happen at The SCAB, more than once.
Fortunately, every time it happened, the rockets had the plaster nose on them and didn't blow anything up.
They were also know to launch when the plane was being loaded, and the load crews were told to stay off to the sides of the tubes, as they put the electrical firing pins in place.
It became SOP to move the firing pins off the back of the rockets until time to send the bird in to the sky.
One use of the rocket tubes on the 86, was as a beer cooler.
On hot days at Yuma, we often had a late launch of one or two 86s.
They would take the bird up to altitude, then turn around and come back and land.
The launcher was dropped, and cool cans of suds were pushed out of the tubes for all to enjoy.
I wonder how that would go over to-day.
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Post by Bullhunter on Oct 21, 2010 5:21:42 GMT 9
Jim that is a funny story.
Found this photo of the F-86D we recovered.
Earl Otto is on the feft & I'm on the right.
This was taken shortly have the restoration was completed.
Plexi-glass is put over the rocket tub door to prevent birds from nesting.
Good picture of the dubs and door lowered.
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Post by oswald on Oct 21, 2010 23:18:14 GMT 9
Bullhunter, that is a very good picture of a sabredog.
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