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Post by pat perry on Aug 11, 2009 12:24:37 GMT 9
Photos from Ralph Robledo, Chief o'the Darts, Daggers and now, the Eagles at Castle Air Museum. Click on picture to see slide show: These are going to be beauties. Where are you going to put the model, Ralph? Tell us some more about these birds. Pat P :us_flag
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Post by chiefothedarts on Aug 11, 2009 13:09:39 GMT 9
:thanks Thanks Pat, Lets see if I can post a reply, as the first one I tried was rejected. Ralph
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Post by chiefothedarts on Aug 11, 2009 13:14:16 GMT 9
:happybday :thanks Pat , It works, so here we go. The F-15 Model will be placed on a pole at the entrance to the CAM parking lot. The F-15A, with a fully restored cockpit and a paint scheme of the 27TFS and 1st TFW, reto 1976, will be placed behind century series row, facing the left wing of the B-36. Ralph L. Robledo
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Post by Tom Dlugosh on Aug 12, 2009 1:55:25 GMT 9
Ralph,
Does the 27TFS stem from the 27FIS? If so, will this bird have a newer version of the falcon logo?
Tom
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Post by Jim on Aug 12, 2009 3:09:21 GMT 9
Ralph, Does the 27TFS stem from the 27FIS? If so, will this bird have a newer version of the falcon logo? Tom Yes, because when the 27thFIS transferred to TAC, its numerical designation became the 27th Tac.Ftr.Sqdn.... At that time tac decided that the insignia should bear some resemblance to WW1 insignia... Except the Falcon as we used was the emblem from WW1 without circle or the yellow white background.... The insignia we wore was approved in 1922, so it lasted at least 50 years...... So much for tradition- ours and our predessors.......... The current insignia looks like4 a yard bird with a wounded wing. I doubt that the yellow and black checkerboard was used after that.............. Congrats Chief O' The Dart,Daggers and Eagles, and THANKS :salute and a tip O' Me Foine Fatique Cap............ The Old Sarge
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Post by chiefothedarts on Aug 12, 2009 5:55:16 GMT 9
Hi Tom , Long time no see. The old Sarge is correct. This aircraft is being restored as it was in 1976 when it was assigned to the 27th TFS I will have a yellow band near the top of both tails, the TAC Emblem on the outside of both tails, FF on the outside of both tails, the Squadron insignia on the side of the left intake , and the 1st TFW emblem on the side of the right intake. The National Insignias are on each side just forward of the intakes and top of left wing and underneath the right wing. In 1976 the stars and bars did not not have the blue border around the circle and white bars. That is the first thing that someone will notice and let me know that I forgot the blue border. The F-15 Model will belong to CAM, so it will have a blue and white checker board at the top of the tails, it will have a CA for Castle, and our CAM logo where the Command insignia is placed. The cockpit will be painted silver, like Chuck Yaegers model and the area below the engines will be a silver metallic. On the F-15A, the Big Guy, I hope to have the exterior painting done by this weekend so I can open the cockpit and finish installing the rest of the black boxes and the HUD. We were very fortunate to get 99% of the cockpit boxes, so it will be just about complete. The F-15 was the last aircraft that I worked on during my 27 years of service, so I made a request to do the restoration on this Bird.Every cockpit box was removed, disconnected plugs, restored, and the reinstalled and all of the plugs were reconnected. This was and still is a great aircraft, so I wanted to make it look good out on the grounds. It will be placed behind century series row withe the nose pointing at the left wing of the B-36.. So there you have it. Ralph L Robledo :us_flag
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Post by jimpadgett on Aug 12, 2009 11:36:29 GMT 9
Is the 93rd Bomb Wing insignia on the tail of that eagle someones idea of a sick joke? Tenants or not most of the time we have our pride. Otherwise thanks for the great pictures and work on the restoration.
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Post by chiefothedarts on Aug 12, 2009 12:26:40 GMT 9
Sorry if I offended you. I was checking out the decal for proper size. The 93rd was a 24 incher and the TAC decals were supposed to be 19 inches. I take pictures of my work with my camera, transfer the pictures to my computer and take a good look before I order the decals and finish the product. No offense meant or joke intended.. Just someone trying to get some work done. Next time I will remove offensive material before going to the website. Ralph L. Robledo
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Post by jimpadgett on Aug 12, 2009 21:04:03 GMT 9
I meant it lightheartedly. You know about "sixers" and SAC of course. I am or was also an eagle guy but not sure about their sensetivity on the subject of SAC. Good work Ralph
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Post by chiefothedarts on Aug 14, 2009 8:46:40 GMT 9
:green-beer Amen Jim. Hey, since you are from the 318th FIS with the sixes and Eagles, I would really like to know who built this fantastic F-15 Model that is in the final stages before we put it on display at CAM. I was in the 84th FIS at Castle with the SIXES and then went to Nellis AFB in 1980, worked Ot&E with the A-10, F-15, F-16, F-4, and A-10s. Then I got the job over at the 433 AMU with the Eagles. Anyway. My family stayed here in Atwater so I commuted back and forth to Nellis for a year before I retired in 81. Anyway, I would like to find out the Names of the crew that built the Model Eagle so we can give them credit when we dedicate the Model. I remember seeing the Eagles on alert with the TC tail code and every once in a while I would see a TY Tail. Frank Flynn told me that the guys built the model and even had it in a parade or two in Atwater or Merced. As I have mentioned before, the guys that built it really did a great and we would like to commend them for a job well done. By the way, what ever happened to" Duke Snider". I may have misspelled his name. We go way back to the MG-10/MG-13 days. :us_flag Ralph L. Robledo
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Post by jimpadgett on Aug 14, 2009 21:32:09 GMT 9
Wasn't with the 318th when the had F-15s. Twice with the SIXES, 1968-69 and 1975-76 at 318th. Was with the 57th FIS in Iceland 1985-87 had F-15C/Ds. Have no idea who built the model but, it does look like an excellent job. Duke Snyder has a familiar ring to it but, I am not sure why. MG-10/13 were F-101 and F-102 radars. Right? Was with F-102s again 57th FIS 1967-68. Is that polyurethane paint on the F-15 you are working? I think the TY tails were Tyndall ADWC. Jim
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Post by pat perry on Sept 8, 2009 22:41:29 GMT 9
Here's Ralph Robledo's photo of the completed paint job on the F-15 at Castle Air Museum. Ralph says: I should have mentioned that 74-119 is painted in the colors of the 27th TFS, 1st TFW as it was in the year 1976. It has a glossy museum polyurethane paint job, done by yours truly. We will be towing it out to the grounds on Wednesday the 9th of Sep and will dedicate it on the 20th of September during our Autumn Wings Festival. - Ralph Click picture to see progress photos Very nice work Ralph - I guess you could say the "Eagle Has Landed" Pat P. :us_flag Photos from Ralph Robledo, Chief o'the Darts, Daggers and now, the Eagles at Castle Air Museum. Click on picture to see slide show: These are going to be beauties. Where are you going to put the model, Ralph? Tell us some more about these birds. Pat P
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Post by Gene on Sept 16, 2009 6:53:34 GMT 9
this is a little off topic, but i had a supervisor the the photo lab, befor i was promoted that retired to atwater. he would have volunteered at different things on the base. this was in the late '70's. he is richard kosler, tsgt retired...any one remember him?
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Post by pat perry on Sept 16, 2009 11:42:24 GMT 9
this is a little off topic, but i had a supervisor the the photo lab, befor i was promoted that retired to atwater. he would have volunteered at different things on the base. this was in the late '70's. he is richard kosler, tsgt retired...any one remember him? This may be him. Public record on the Internet. www.zabasearch.com Maybe Ralph knows him. Richard Kosler age 76 187 Menlo Ave Atwater, CA 95301-2834 209-358-7095 Give him a call Gene. If he's the right one, he'll be glad to hear from you. Pat P. :us_flag
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Post by Gene on Sept 16, 2009 15:25:54 GMT 9
well now.... i know thats him... we stayed in touch until about '04..he even came thru here on his way to AK. we send cards a christmas... then 1 year no card... i called and the phone was disconnected...i google the address and called the 411 and they didn't have any info...
i just know that he was doning different volunteer things at the base and the local area...hes a darn good photog. i'll try the phone # in the morning... thanks
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Post by Gene on Sept 17, 2009 5:37:17 GMT 9
just for your info: that was the right name and address.the guy who answered was in atwater but not my friend...thanks for the assist...i guess he's gone.
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Post by pat perry on Sept 17, 2009 8:23:04 GMT 9
just for your info: that was the right name and address.the guy who answered was in atwater but not my friend...thanks for the assist...i guess he's gone. Maybe he moved somewhere else. go here www.zabasearch.com and search on his name for the entire US. Pat P. :us_flag
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Post by chiefothedarts on Sept 17, 2009 13:31:18 GMT 9
I just checked the Merced County phone books and Kosler is not listed in any one of our little towns. However, CAM is listed and we are having the annual Autumn Wings Festival this weekend and will be dedicating the F-15A Eagle. The Eagle is on the grounds and this afternoon we just finished the ground work such as painting the posts and landscaping. A new guy asked me one day, "what do you guys do?", I just responded, "EVERYTHING!" The Aircraft looks good and we are hoping to pull in a good crowd, even tho the forecast is 102 degrees on Sunday. Our featured speaker will be Mike Fennessy, USAF COL. (RET). He is a graduate of Atwater High School and a graduate of USAF Academy, Class of 1978. Guess what? He flew F-15s for many years, and also flew 74-119 while he was with the 1st Fighter Wing at Langley AFB. He now lives in Virginia, but his parents still live in Atwater. So, they found out about the F-15, contacted Mike, we put his name on the aircraft as a LT, since that is what he was when he flew it. I don't know if many of you saw the picture that was posted by Pat P, but it is painted in a retro-76 to 78 paint job only it is a glossy polyurethane paint that we used. It has been a lot of work, but it all came together--again. Another outstanding job by the CAM Restoration Crew. Anyway , if you are in the area, stop by CAM on Sunday the 20th of September 2009. Ralph L. Robledo
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Post by Gene on Sept 18, 2009 2:45:35 GMT 9
hey chief, i appreciate that info also.. :god_bless_usa
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Post by Mark O on Sept 18, 2009 10:11:31 GMT 9
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