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Post by LBer1568 on Apr 19, 2013 5:56:12 GMT 9
How many of the regulars here are going to reunion? I finally sent off a check for my registration. I live about 30 minutes from Hope hotel and plan on showing up for a few of the sessions. I probably won't be there for everything. I don't play golf, so there is half a day or more that I will miss. I do remember way back in early days at WPAFB when I was still active duty. Our System Program Office (SPO) had a golf outing, mandatory for all. I ended up driving the golf cart with the keg of beer. needless to say I took my duty as official sampler to heart. I couldn't risk having the beer go skanky tasting. So I tried to sample about every half hour or less. You can't be too careful in those duties. Well we ended up with a 4 golf cart race and somehow my beer cart ended up in lake. I was officially banned from golf course after that. But hey, there wasn't any E-10 so it didn't bother me much. Then there was the Corvette that ended up in swimming pool at O Club ay Tyndall. I was tending bar that night (Part time job) and man was the Wing Commander upset with some young F-106 pilots.
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Post by pat perry on Apr 19, 2013 7:17:14 GMT 9
How many of the regulars here are going to reunion? I finally sent off a check for my registration. I live about 30 minutes from Hope hotel and plan on showing up for a few of the sessions. I probably won't be there for everything. I don't play golf, so there is half a day or more that I will miss. I do remember way back in early days at WPAFB when I was still active duty. Our System Program Office (SPO) had a golf outing, mandatory for all. I ended up driving the golf cart with the keg of beer. needless to say I took my duty as official sampler to heart. I couldn't risk having the beer go skanky tasting. So I tried to sample about every half hour or less. You can't be too careful in those duties. Well we ended up with a 4 golf cart race and somehow my beer cart ended up in lake. I was officially banned from golf course after that. But hey, there wasn't any E-10 so it didn't bother me much. Then there was the Corvette that ended up in swimming pool at O Club ay Tyndall. I was tending bar that night (Part time job) and man was the Wing Commander upset with some young F-106 pilots. Lorin, I will be there with about 8+ of my buds from the 456th FIS. I never partake in the fine game of "pasture pool" (golf) but have in the past driven the beer cart, so we have a lot in common. I will spend that time in the hospitable room BS'ing with those others who don't kill golfs for leisure. The MA-1 "weeeeeenieeeeees", as the old Sarge calls them, know how to throw a party so I know we're going to have a great time. I think the Old sarge has another trip planned for that time so he won't be there. What a pity, he is a real hoot to be around. But he is making clocks for the event so it's not like won't be there in spirit. Just look for the heavy guy (me) shooting pictures and wearing a 456th FIS ball cap. See you there. Pat P.
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Post by LBer1568 on Apr 20, 2013 1:13:59 GMT 9
Looking forward to it pat Lorin
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Post by Jim on Apr 20, 2013 1:35:02 GMT 9
Looking forward to it pat Lorin It will be a white hat and the Pat dude is over 6 feets from the floor
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Post by pat perry on Apr 20, 2013 3:23:19 GMT 9
The stories keep rolling in - Pat P.
Lightning Strike
In a message dated 4/18/2013 8:45:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, loutouchette@cox.net writes:
In 1966 I was a Crew Chief on an F106 at Selfridge. One afternoon Captain Wilson my pilot made an IFE after being struck by lightning. What a mess! We were able to do the structural repairs but were unsuccessful in getting the compass to work correctly. Many hours over a month and as many FCF's later it was determined that the lightning strike at magnetized the airframe. As a last result the aircraft was flown to Richards-Gebaur Air Force Base in Missouri (closed in 1994) and towed through a degaussing hanger. This did the trick and the aircraft was again back on the flying schedule. (See attached picture of our team).
Louis A. Touchette, SMSgt, USAF (ret)
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Post by pat perry on Apr 20, 2013 3:24:30 GMT 9
Red WSEMs
From: jkrause54@msn.com To: bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/17/2013 2:06:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: F-106 Stories
Bob, There are obviously some great tales that should be told re the F-106 flying history. Wish I had the energy to do some "mining". Maybe someone could relate the story about Al Pruden's unexpected trial of his ejection system after acting as target for his wingman - who ran a qualifying run on Al using some "red WSEMS." Or about Ray Girard who was unsuccessful in using the supersonic rocket ejection system - with spurs and all - after a fuel system failure caused a flameout. The ejection seat failed mid-course requiring Ray to dead stick into a potato field with one of his knees jammed under his chin. Tore him up badly, but he survived. Then there was my commander at McChord in the early '70s (I for the life of me cannot recall his name, but he was a great CO) who had the nose of his bird sliced off just forward of the rudder pedals by another aircraft during ACM. He landed successfully somewhere in Idaho (I think). Lots of material. Jack Krause
From: mtrefethen@bak.rr.com To: Bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/18/2013 12:17:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: RE: F-106 Stories - Krause - Flight whoopsies!
As often happens, since the F-106 was originally designated the F-102B and they do look similar to the casual eye, Dagger and Dart stories and sightings get interchanged. 71st FIS Lt Pruden was flying an F-102A that 1959 Michigan spring morning as target when his Squadron Commander, Lt Col Monte Davis flying another F-102A performed the “Red” WSEM operation described (and there were 6 of them, 3 GAR 1 Ds and 3 GAR 2As-probably the first and only time 6 missiles were launched from an F-102A-“Goodie Cart” results were successful following the event). Col Davis had ground aborted due to starter failure the F-102A he was scheduled to fly with WSEMs and quickly changed to another F-102A. There used to be “HOT” birds on the ramp in those days and one was there close by the aborted WSEM F-102A. Interestingly enough, the “ejection seat trial” referred to failed as the seat rocket had “fired” but seat never left the aircraft-still on the rails in the aircraft when it landed (or whomped down) in a flat spin in the farmer’s front yard. But that’s another story of F-102A color!
In the summer of 1965, there was another interchange, again involving an F-102A and Squadron Commander on the receiving end of a GAR 3 [re-designated AIM-4E] from F-106A, 57-2458, during annual deployment firings. Mike Trefethen
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Post by pat perry on Apr 20, 2013 3:27:58 GMT 9
And I always thought Adverse Yaw was when my neighbor yelled across the yard and said, "Hey, why don't yaw come on over and bring some beer and we'll drink it". Pat P. Adverse YawFrom: brugor@me.com To: mtrefethen@bak.rr.com CC: Bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/18/2013 9:11:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: adverse yaw Michael -- Thanks for your detailed description of what the pitch and yaw dampers did to reduce the effects of adverse yaw. The yaw dampers worked so well that most F-106 pilots didn't even know anything about adverse yaw -- UNTIL WE ENTERED AERIAL COMBAT MANEUVERING (ACM)! In one of my first ACM missions, I wrote up the flight controls because of strange behavior during hard maneuvers. Other pilot reported similar problems. A pilot with experience in other aircraft gave us the facts on adverse yaw during heavy maneuvering at the edge of the performance envelope. There was nothing wrong with our yaw dampers -- we were stressing them beyond their limits. Adverse yaw occurs when a pilot uses aileron to turn. To turn right, the right aileron goes up, forcing the right wing down. The left aileron goes down, forcing the left wing up. When the right aileron goes up, it has less lift and less drag; the left aileron going down gives more lift and more drag. The drag to the left the aircraft nose to the left, just when the pilot wants to go to the right. A little bit of right rudder, provided by the yaw damper, usually corrects this. Put the plane in a hard turn with a high angle of attack, add right aileron, and the yaw to the left will overcome the ailerons trying to go to the right. The pilot wants to turn right, but the nose snaps to the left, sometimes violently, and the aircraft is out of control and might enter a spin! The solution: DO NOT USE AILERONS FOR SUDDEN ROLL - USE RUDDER ONLY! The aircraft can be rolled nicely with rudders only, even in high angles of attack. We had some "dingy stabbers", sharp points like nails attached to our control stick, which were intended to pop the rubber raft if it happened to inflate all by itself (which happened on at least one occasion). When we got into ACM, we were pulling the stick all the way back until it hit the seat cushion between the pilot's legs. The dingy stabber tore up the front of the pilot's seat cushion! Maybe you didn't realize that we sometimes flew the F-106 with the stick all the way back -- we kept it in the center position, not using ailerons for a turn. I left the F-106 in 1969 and transitioned to the F-100 Super Sabre to fly combat in Vietnam. The swept wings of the F-100 and its large ailerons gave it a lot of adverse yaw. Several F-100s had been lost due to spins caused by adverse yaw. Instructors lectured us on adverse yaw, and emphasized never to use ailerons in a high-G turn. I had learned about adverse yaw in the F-106 as an instructor in ACM, so I put my experience to good use. On one mission, with an instructor in the back seat, I was attacking another F-100 which was in a tight turn. I needed a hard left roll to get behind the other F-100, so I deliberately slammed the aileron full right. The F-100 snap-rolled to the left, my instructor screamed obscenities, but I snapped quickly to the left and came down behind my target. Adverse yaw can be used as a special maneuver! Adverse yaw bit me once in Vietnam. I was flying wing; my leader and I dropped our bombs on the Ho Chi Minh Trail, and were joining back in formation for the flight home. My lead was below me in a left turn, so I started a large diving left roll so I would come up below him, inside his turn, and make a really neat formation join-up on his left wing. As I came to the bottom of my roll, I added a bit of right aileron to stop my turn as I pulled up under my lead. Right AILERON while pulling moderate G's? WRONG! The F-100 snapped to the LEFT. I realized what had happened and continued a complete roll to recover full control, and then completed the join-up in a more routine manner. My lead could not see what had happened to me behind and below him, so nobody but me knew how embarrassed I was... Bruce=
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Post by pat perry on Apr 20, 2013 3:29:19 GMT 9
Aerial Combat Maneuvering # 1 – Gordon
From: rjnemo@aol.com To: Bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/17/2013 11:48:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: F-106 Aerial Combat Maneuvering #1 - Gordon
I recovered from a full inverted spin in the six. No fun! Sustained 4 negative G's and broke all the blood vessels in my eyes. Nemo
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Post by pat perry on Apr 20, 2013 3:34:17 GMT 9
NF-104 AircraftFrom: lbruhn001@frontiernet.net To: bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/17/2013 12:21:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: NF104 While at Castle 66 or 67, 5 of use went to Edwards to fly against NF104 (NF104 has rocket motor mounted in the tail). All the pilots had moon suits, the 104 would climb to 80+ and light the rocket for ahead on pass, the106 would go 50 and their run and snap-up to 65+. We jumped the 107 to keep the Radar on, SW for arm select. Interesting 3 days of flying. A question for Bruce Gordon on the return trip from Osan: didn't you have to make an unscheduled stop at Wake Island? Do you remember when Capt Blair knocked the guard shack over? Bear Lavern Bruhn MA-1 for 21 yrs Unscheduled Stop at Wake IslandFrom: brugor@me.com To: Bobski9933@aol.com CC: ibruhn001@frontiernet.net Sent: 4/18/2013 10:36:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Wake Island Yes, Bear -- I did make an unscheduled stop at Wake Island! Were you one of the two mechanics who stopped at Wake Island to help me? The 94th FIS took off from Guam, with tankers, in late 1969, flying across the Pacific to Hawaii and then back to Selfridge. I was the Quality Control Officer and a pilot, so I loaded my missile bay with spare parts that the squadron might need on the way home. I also flew the "hangar queen", the most unreliable plane. A while after taking off from Guam, my AC/DC Power warning light came on. I switched to emergency power, and continued heading for Hawaii. Pretty soon the Constant Speed Drive (CSD) began to make a humming noise. The noise got louder, and the airplane began to vibrate. I knew that the CSD had probably lost all its hydraulic oil. Without oil, the CSD would probably seize and the drive shaft would snap. That would stop the CSD and I could continue on to Hawaii on emergency power with no problems. However, the CSD drive shaft did not snap, and the CSD groaned louder and louder. The plane vibrated and I was afraid of fire, so I declared an emergency. We were too far from Guam for me to return, so the entire squadron and tankers diverted over the only dry place around -- Wake Island. I was afraid that the CSD would catch fire from overheating, but it kept whining and the plane kept shuddering. When we got to Wake Island, and I left the formation and descended to land. I switched to their radio frequency, declaring an emergency, and the Tower cleared me to land. As I landed and taxied in, the Tower asked me what kind of plane I had -- they'd never seen an F-106! The next day, a transport landed at Wake with two of our mechanics and required tools. As we took out the CSD, we noted that it was a rainbow blue -- it had been red-hot during flight, and it was a miracle that it had not caught fire! Our two mechanics replaced the CSD in quick time -- I already had all the necessary parts in my missile bay. We worked together to repack the drag chute. Then our mechanics got on another transport and flew back to Selfridge, and I was left on Wake Island alone. Wake Island had only one Air Force officer there -- everyone else was a Filipino contractor. I felt quite alone. I got on the telephone and called PACAF HQ, explaining where I was and saying that I needed a refueling tanker to get me to Hawaii. They replied that the Vietnam War was going on, and I had low priority. I waited alone on Wake Island for about a week. I tried to call my Flight Commander, who should be back at Selfridge by then. It was late at night, Selfridge time, so I phoned his home. His wife answered the phone. When a woman answered the phone, the Air Force operator cut me off, saying that official phones could not be used for personal calls. In spite of my protestations, the operator would not let me make more calls to Selfridge. Meanwhile, back at Selfridge, our Wing Commander called my wife and told her that I was "missing over water". Aircraft movements were SECRET, so she could not even tell my parents -- but they had no idea where I was! I was on the phone every day to PACAF HQ, but most of the day I wandered around Wake Island, looking at the old Japanese pillboxes and slit trenches left from WW II. I ran my fingers in the sand and found old bullets. I swam in the lagoon, and saw moray eels looking at me. After about a week, a tanker finally came by Wake Island and escorted me the rest of the way to Hawaii. After a night in Hawaii, I flew with them again to California, and then flew back to Selfridge by myself. Bruce Gordon Attachment Deleted(Picture) Here I am with an old Japanese gun on Wake Island. Notice how the gun was pretty well shot up by our attacks! Attachment Deleted(Picture) The tanker that took me back to Hawaii asked me to move in for a photo. He took this photo, and mailed it to me at Selfridge a week later.
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Post by pat perry on Apr 20, 2013 3:37:19 GMT 9
F-106 Carry-AllFrom: tarrnumber1@aol.com To: bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/17/2013 11:19:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: F106 carry-all While serving in the 498thFIS @ Paine Field I zipped over to Boise ANG and tied a Honda 90 motorcycle up in the bay where the Genie went and flew it home without a glitch. A lot of sergeants were very helpful at both ends of the trip as they wanted to see how in "H" this was going to work. Roger Tarr From: zarbill@windstream.net To: Bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/18/2013 8:44:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: F106 carry-all - Tarr I think there were a few Honda bikes brought from Japan to Osan? anyone recall? From: brugor@me.com To: Bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/18/2013 9:37:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: F106 carry-all - Honda bikes? Bob -- We bought a number of Honda motorcycles in Japan, and they were flown to Osan, Korea, in cargo aircraft. We assembled them in our barracks in Osan. Attachment Deleted(Picture) I took this photo of an F-106 mechanic, Sgt. Sinc, was helping our Flight Commander, Major Robert L. Smith (the only black F-106 pilot that I know of) assemble Smitty's Honda 350 motorcycle in my barracks room. When we then flew back from Osan across the Pacific Ocean, Major Smith had his motorcycle strapped into his F-106 forward missile bay. So, the motorcycle came all the way back to Selfridge! I heard a story about SAC and the huge B-36 bomber. They frequently flew from Germany right back to Westover AFB, Massachusetts. The US Customs service had reliable reports that lots of stuff was coming back from Germany and was not going through US Customs to pay duties. The Customs officers demanded the right to inspect B-36s returning from Germany, but USAF generals refused, because the B-36s sometimes carried nuclear weapons and the Customs officers were not cleared to look at our nuclear weapons. Finally, the Customs officers were so insistent that a General made a bargain: he would pick a B-36 which was already in the air, and which was not carrying nuclear weapons. The Customs officers could inspect it and, if they found any items being smuggled through Customs, they could inspect other planes. If they did not find any contraband aboard this B-36, the Customs officers would stop hounding the USAF about customs inspections of our planes. The Customs officials agreed, and a B-36 on the way back was selected for Customs inspection. The USAF then got on the radio and called the B-36: "If you've got anything that won't pass Customs, GET RID OF IT"! The B-36 opened its bomb bay doors -- and jettisoned a new Mercedes sedan into the Atlantic Ocean. Bruce=
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Post by pat perry on Apr 20, 2013 9:00:52 GMT 9
F-106 Carry All
From: pketchum@twcny.rr.com To: Bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/19/2013 9:07:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: RE: F106 carry-all - Honda bikes? - Osan Bob,
I believe that Major General Thomas E. Clifford was another African-American F-106 pilot. He was the 26th Air Division Commander back in 1976 – 78. At the time, I was a Staff Sergeant in the 144th Fighter Interceptor Wing (ANG) at Fresno and General Clifford would visit periodically to fly one of our 106s to maintain his currency. I vividly recall returning to my office from lunch (which was a few doors down from the Base Commander’s office in the headquarters building) one day and was surprised to find him sitting in my chair with his feet up on my desk and bullshitting with my Master Sergeant boss. Talk about double-takes. Paul
From: brugor@me.com To: Bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/19/2013 9:35:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: F106 carry-all - Honda bikes? - Osan
My motorcycle story was absolutely true. The B-36 story was hearsay at the bar.
I personally was involved with a Canadian CF-100 fighter which flew into Geiger Air Base in 1962 and loaded up with turkeys at our commissary to fly back to a party in Canada. I know we flew a C-47 down from Geiger Air Base (Spokane, Washington) to California (March AFB?) to pick up clay pigeons for skeet shooting. The story was that there was a WW II contract for clay pigeons for bomber gunners to learn about leading a target. When the war ended, nobody terminated the contract, and the contractor kept stuffing clay pigeons into a warehouse on base. When the contracting officer finally stopped the contract, they had a warehouse full of clay pigeons and were giving them away to any military agency which wanted them. I also heard of a Navy ship that was raided by Customs in Florida; it had just come in from Cuba and had TONS of Cuban rum on board! Another story is of an F-101 which flew into Guantanamo, Cuba, and filled up a huge belly tank with rum to fly back home with. The pilot didn't know what was in the belly tank. He had an engine emergency after takeoff, so he jettisoned the belly tank to make an emergency landing back at Guantanamo. Everyone was horrified that he had jettisoned about a thousand dollars of Cuban rum! I personally carried chaff tanks on a T-33 which were loaded with lobsters from Otis AFB on Cape Cod, Mass., to Selfridge for a Dining In formal dinner, featuring the great Captain Eddie Rickenbacker, himself!
With all those things going on, it is quite believable that a B-36 could be carrying a Mercedes sedan!
Bruce=
In a message dated 4/19/2013 3:10:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lberry1@woh.rr.com writes:
539th FIS Pilots at McGuire used to do cross country to Bermuda. Coming back with booze stuffed into emptied MA-1 RADAR Rack slots just for the trips. Customs at McGuire always tried to catch them. But were never aware that you could pull MA-1 units and they were great for quart/fifths.
Pilots used to run to ops/command center with B-4 and their personal booze. They would swap B-4 bags and the special B-4 would be in classified briefing room. Never did catch us with anything. Customs would try.
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Post by pat perry on Apr 20, 2013 9:07:00 GMT 9
Osan, Korea Guard ShackFrom: brugor@me.com To: Bobski9933@aol.com, lbruhn001@frontiernet.net Sent: 4/19/2013 10:11:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Osan, Korea guard shack Yes, Bear, I was there when Captain Blair nearly knocked over the guard shack in Osan, Korea! We had some VIP come to look at our 94th operations, so we staged a SCRAMBLE of two F-106s to impress our guest. Captain Blair came roaring out of the shelter, taxiing too fast, and made a hard turn to get to the runway. There was a South Korean Army guard in a little shack at the spot where Captain Blair made his turn. I was standing with the VIP a short distance away as the F-106 turned sharply. The left wing swung toward the guard shack - the guard ducked, and the wing actually went inside the guard shack and tipped it backwards! The guard shack came back upright. Captain Blair continued onto the runway and took off. Our VIP guest commented: "I think that plane hit the guard shack". I agreed, and took a photo of the guard in his guard shack a few minutes after the incident.... There was a scrape on the guard shack showing that contact was made, and it looks like the roof of the shack has been "adjusted" a bit. Bruce (Picture Guard at shack) Attachment Deleted(Picture of concrete shelters) Attachment DeletedThese are our reinforced concrete shelters at Osan, Korea.
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Post by pat perry on Apr 21, 2013 8:30:05 GMT 9
Maintenance Mishap
From: jkrause54@msn.com To: bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/19/2013 10:56:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Maintenance Mishap
In the very early '60s, we had an exercise called at McGuire in the wee hours of the AM. I was making a "0500" recovery after a scramble and was landing to the north on an icy runway. The drag chute failed, and the bird was not going to slow down. I deployed the tail hook. I sailed over the cable without even a hint of catching it. Got it stopped in the run up area without blowing the tires, but it was hairy. After the wheels cooled down in the run up area, we towed the bird to the flight line where we found a broken wire going to the solenoid that was supposed to drop the hook. As flight line maintenance officer, I suggested to the C of M that we check all the birds right now. He agreed. We put the usual cushion under the hook of one of the birds, and the crew chief climbed the ladder to deploy the hook as we stood behind the airplane for results. Intuition kicked in as soon as we realized the crew chief was taking a long time in deploying the hook, and as I ran forward to shout to him -- KAPOW - two full drop tanks hit the ramp spilling 600 plus gallons down the ramp. The vision of that poor bird just sitting there with both landing lights swinging back and forth on their electric wires after being dislodged when the tanks hit the gear doors on the way down still lingers in my mind. No fire. Phew. Memories. Jack Krause
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Post by pat perry on Apr 21, 2013 8:33:18 GMT 9
Lake Michigan Aircraft CarriersFrom: pa28180d@gmail.com To: bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/20/2013 9:57:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Great Lakes Aircraft Carriers This doesn't have anything to do with F 106's but is interesting to anyone interested in military aviation. We had two aircraft carriers operating in Lake Michigan during WWII. It was an ideal place for new pilots and Carrier crew members to practice operations from a carrier. They didn't have to worry about being sunk by the subs that patrolled just off both of our coasts. Both ships were converted from side-wheeler cruise ships operating in the Great lakes at the time. They were converted in less than two months! They didn't have elevators or hanger storage below so pilots started and ended each day at land bases. warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=48962David Hunt
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Post by pat perry on Apr 21, 2013 8:36:47 GMT 9
New Challenger Enlisted Club at OsanF106 Troops, If you were ever stationed at Osan and remember the old Airmans Club, you should see the new Club now! Go to the link below. Thanks to Pat McGee, who is still working there! Bobski In a message dated 4/19/2013 10:48:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mcgeepj2@outlook.com writes: Ahhh, you're thinking about the Challenger Club. It was just recently tore down. It's replacement is the new club here, which sits on the ground of the old BX. This was just across the street from the old La Cantina Mexican restaurant. The BX was replace years ago by the Mustang Mall. MOW Website about the new club: www.rao-osan.com/osan-info/onbase/const/c-ctr.htm
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Post by Diamondback on Apr 21, 2013 15:05:27 GMT 9
Sigh, if only travel hadn't become more trouble than it's worth...
Not Six-related, but former BUFF-driver and 93rd BW Wing King James Hooppaw tells a story about carrying a de-windshielded Triumph TR-3 back from the UK in the bomb bay of his B-47, so with the right bracing a Mercedes being air-ferried via Magnesium Overcast sounds believable at first thought.
Maybe off-topic, but there still something in talks for Puget Sound ADC/Sixers?
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Post by pat perry on Apr 22, 2013 1:52:35 GMT 9
Lake Michigan Aircraft Carriers
On Apr 20, 2013, at 7:45 PM, "Bob Oberst" <oberstr@fibernetcc.com> wrote:
Hi ---- So this is how sooo many Avengers and other Navy planes ended up just off of Chicago, huh? I see where they are dragging them back up -- it seems they are in pretty good shape yet. All this happened when I was a tad young to watch all this happen -- Darn!! We lived in Schiller Park, Ill. back then till about 1950. Douglas Airport supplied enough entertainment for me back then. Watching a B-36 trying to get back off the ramp was great fun to watch, but it actually got off with a crew of 3 if I remember. ----Bob----
Lost Aircraft at Selfridge
From: oberstr@fibernetcc.com To: bobski9933@aol.com Sent: 4/21/2013 11:22:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: Great Lakes Aircraft Carriers
Hi ---- Getting back to F-106s, about 1965 at Selfridge, was anyone there when 3 (?) F-106s were doing some touch and go's when the 1st two landed and the last one was asked to take a trip to Lake Huron and back as a lightning storm was coming toward Selfridge. He said OK and off he went toward Port Huron when he got hit with lightning (seen from a barge below). The F-106 crashed without bailing out (so said the barge guys) and they tried to followed the plane, but it kept going deeper etc. Last seen, the F-106 was seen headed for St. Clair River . The last I heard, they never found the F-106 or the Pilot. Has anyone ever heard more about that? ---Bob Oberst
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Post by pat perry on May 5, 2013 20:15:31 GMT 9
Here's the latest All F-106 Reunion from Bobski - Pat P. On May 5, 2013 Bobski wrote:Dear F106 Troops, This is your May 4,2013, F106 Reunion Update. Attached is also the updated itinerary file. Our committee has recently visited the WPAFB area to confirm the venues for the week. Ken Wigton and I drove down and met with Jerry Braun who lives in the area. Ken and I stayed overnight at the Hope Hotel so we got a good experience of what it will be like for the reunion. The three of us met with the Hope Hotel catering and services staff managers, Lisa Willis from the Greene County Visitors Bureau, Jane Leach tour director for the Air Force Museum, and also ate at the dairy farm where we plan on having the picnic. So this email will have lots of information. First of all I'd like to thank Zig Stancavage for doing our initial treasurer work. He has done a fine job and doing a job that requires a lot of time on the phone, keeping track of the registered people and signing up for events. Zig has gotten very busy with the selling of his Michigan house and is now preparing to move to Florida. Ken Wigton has volunteered to be our treasurer and registration signup contact. Please contact Ken to register if you haven't already and send your registration money to him at: Ken Wigton 3411 Capitol Way Highland, MI 48356 PH: 248-887-6834 IMPORTANT - You must PHONE in your reservation if you are staying at the Hope Hotel. (937)879-2696, If you do your reservation online YOU WILL NOT GET THE SPECIAL RATE!! Ask for the F106 Reunion block of rooms and you will get the $87/night rate which includes breakfast. I will now simply list all the updated reunion information in no specific numbered priority: 1. The Meet and Greet meal on Wednesday, (5:30-7PM), will be served buffet style. Chicken Parmesan, Lasagna (meat), Chef’s Choice Vegetables, Garlic Mashed Potatoes, Dessert, (a vegetarian dish is available as a separate plate, but we need to know from you by 9/6). CASUAL DRESS... 2. Banquet Dinner meal on Saturday (6PM), will be served at the tables of 12 seating; Hope Salad w/Ranch & Italian, Choice of (6) oz Chicken Supreme or (6) oz Grilled Salmon or (6) oz Filet Mignon (need your choice of meat by the Meet & Greet), Roasted Redskin Potatoes, Vegetable, Rolls & Butter, Assorted Desserts, beverages. BUSINESS CASUAL DRESS.. 3. Our committee has negotiated the best rates we could for transportation buses and the two evening meals. We have 3 events to bus to/from the Hope with as of now over 150 attending each. We are just trying to break even or better with the costs. For now, unless anything unforeseen comes up we will charge $70 for each person to cover the 2 banquets and transportation. This will be due at the Meet and Greet, or pro rated if you come later. These prices include all taxes and gratuities. The breakdown is: Meet & Greet - $21 Saturday Banquet -$29 Transportation - $20 Remember the Hope Hotel meal prices include the Large Ball Room (B17/B29 Super Fortress rooms) for the 2 big dinners, the large Hospitality Room (F86/F4 Sabre Rooms, seats 100) available 24/7 to all of us, PA system, registration table setup, and more. They have been very cooperative with us. 4. We have added some exciting events: * At the Saturday Banquet the Air Force Band will play a medley of Patriotic songs * A military Merchandise vendor who will bring a nice assortment of hats, shirts, patches (he supplied the F106 reunion patches for us at his cost), etc.. He is a USAF Vet and worked on the F106 program at Langely AFB. * Silent Auction during the week for major prizes and to be awarded at the Banquet. We already have 4 beautiful hand made wooden F106 models made by "Bear Bruhn;" If you're not present at the banquet and win we can arrange for shipment to you. We also have wooden F106 clocks donated by Jim Gier, a couple autographed large posters and some surprise door prizes... 5. As you know each paid registered veteran will receive one F106 reunion patch (photo at top). Extra patches will be available for $8 each. For those not attending and would like a patch, please send your $8 to Ken Wigton as soon as you can so we will know how many extra to order. His address is above and price includes postage. I think this enough information for now for you all to absorb. Stay tuned as more will be coming. Please keep spreading the word to all of our F106 troops. We really enjoy hearing from you guys! I firmly believe this will be a very fun and exciting reunion for all of us! Aim High, Bob Kwiecinski (Bobski) F106 2013 Reunion Chairperson HM PH: (734)429-0772 Cell: (734)-771-9501 Latest Itinerary attached:Reunion_Itinerary_4.pdf (339.58 KB)
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Post by Bob Kwiecinski (Bobski) on May 5, 2013 21:53:08 GMT 9
All F106 Troops: Regarding the 2013 F106 Reunion: The dates are Sept. 11- 15. I forgot to mention in my email that the $71 for the 2 banquets and the transportation. DOES NOT INCLUDE The Young's Jersey Dairy Farm picnic lunch cost on Wednesday, which is $16. Each person will pay their own at the picnic.
Yes, the Restoration Tour is still on!
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