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Post by signedposter on Jul 5, 2010 19:48:06 GMT 9
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Post by jimpadgett on Jul 5, 2010 20:42:29 GMT 9
Don't want to rain on your parade, the photo you reference is an AF publicity poster printed in the 1000s. It was a custom in some organizations to present these to departing squadron members and having them signed by workmates. "The Chief" could be any Chief Master Sergeant in the squadron or the Chief of Maintenance. I don't recognize any of the signatures. However, someone on this site may. The tail flash is from my times there. None of the tail numbers were of the first F-106 manufactured.
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Post by signedposter on Apr 21, 2011 19:21:00 GMT 9
Seeing is believing. The following link goes to a web page I set up so others who want to enjoy looking at the original signatures can do so. If anyone can tell me which flight or squadron the signatures belong to I would appreciate that. I'm also a US Air Force Veteran, SAC, Thanks and I hope you enjoy. lovefishn.tripod.com/f106sovermtranier/
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Post by Jim on Apr 22, 2011 0:44:02 GMT 9
Seeing is believing. The following link goes to a web page I set up so others who want to enjoy looking at the original signatures can do so. If anyone can tell me which flight or squadron the signatures belong to I would appreciate that. I'm also a US Air Force Veteran, SAC, Thanks and I hope you enjoy. lovefishn.tripod.com/f106sovermtranier/ Note to signed- your original link no longer available........... From the number of signatures in latest posting, it could be all of the pilots in ops, and all of the apg types,or pilots and electionics and weapons people but not the entire squadron because the average stand alone ADC squadron had about 250 plus troops...... The Sqdn is the 318th FIS.............. And Sgt Padgette DOES know what he is talking about, because that picture was available at one time thru the AF times.....As you yourself stated in latest update... Even though we might not agree with each other here, we leave the sarcassum and insults out on the ramp.......The Old Sarge You being a SAC veteran, you no doubt may have been stationed with some of us ADC types........... We really are good people...... We even like to listen to SAC tall tales, come on back again
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Post by f89j1905 on Apr 22, 2011 13:58:32 GMT 9
Former co-worker in a tenant ADC Fighter Squadron on a SAC Base told of SAC's "PRIDE" Progran - Professional Results In Daily Endeavors and the Fighter Squadrons "CRAP" Program - Creativity Rates Above "PRIDE". :rofl Hard to beat a Fighter Squadron! :razz
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Post by MOW on Apr 22, 2011 18:11:42 GMT 9
but every signature is original either on the poster or on a seperate sheet under the poster. Thanks, Phillip Anderson lovefishn@hotmail.com Phillip, first :welcome I don't think he was questioning the signatures. Did you read something there to make you think that? My eyes are getting old true, but I don't see it myself, so not sure what made you jump to that conclusion with such a flame. In your original post you pretty much just asked for any information. Well, you got some, and seeing as many of us were actually in the 318th FIS, Jim being one who was there during that time period, I think his perspective deserves just a little more respect, not to mention as a long time and well respected member of this site the right to give us his thoughts without being flamed. That's something we don't do here... ever. As Jim says, hope you can share some of your SAC stories with us. We look forward to it. Cheers with a green beer :green-beer
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Post by signedposter on Apr 22, 2011 23:14:22 GMT 9
With all due respect, it never ceases to amaze me how someone can make an assumption without actually seeing it for themselves, I just find it very ignorant, and the only ones who will suffer are those who may have been interested in seeing and touching the real thing for themselves. Whatever, sorry you ruined it for others, I'll go ahead and send it to the Smithsonian since as I stated, the signatures have been authenticated. enjoy all, if anyone is interested just email me at lovefishn@hotmail.com Sorry all that you may not have a chance now to enjoy in person. Phil Anderson
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Post by kilroy on Apr 23, 2011 0:13:38 GMT 9
signedposter. I found out a long time ago you dont say or question any one on this forum if their name is not posted in blue. Ass been chewed by the gods too. Kilroy.
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Post by Bullhunter on Apr 23, 2011 2:18:02 GMT 9
As for me! I like the photo. Sorry to see it is starting to fade. At one time I also was part of the great 318th FIS. (1975-1978) Those tail flashings were before my time. I'm attaching a photo that was handed out by the thousands to squadron folks while I was at the 318th FIS.
signedposter,,,,,Thanks for sharing that photo and signatures. :salute :thanks
There was also a great post-card sold at the McChord Air Museum with a T-33, F-106A, and F-15 over Mt. Rainer. Anyone want to view that I'll post it.
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Post by Mark O on Apr 23, 2011 9:07:59 GMT 9
First off - interesting thread!
Now, just to add my two cents of zinc, I just thought I'd mention that currently we USAF flyers almost always get some neat photo of one of our planes mounted in a frame, add a small plaque, then let it sit on the duty desk for a week or two so all the squadron members can sign it for a going-away gift for one of the gang.
In this case the USAF obliged the 318th FIS by printing up some neat lithos. We print our own out at the base photo lab.
I'm not saying this is what you have because there is no plaque on your litho, I wasn't there then, and am just guessing (well, I was about 150 miles away in junior high school!), but I thought I'd throw that out.
Mark
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Post by signedposter on Apr 26, 2011 11:22:45 GMT 9
As for me! I like the photo. Sorry to see it is starting to fade. At one time I also was part of the great 318th FIS. (1975-1978) Those tail flashings were before my time. I'm attaching a photo that was handed out by the thousands to squadron folks while I was at the 318th FIS. signedposter,,,,,Thanks for sharing that photo and signatures. There was also a great post-card sold at the McChord Air Museum with a T-33, F-106A, and F-15 over Mt. Rainer. Anyone want to view that I'll post it. Thanks for the information, I've been studying the tail symbols. Anyway, I'm almost sure this is a photocopy and not a poster made in the thousands at all. There must be a specific reason why the poster was signed by so many different people. Did it commemorate some event? Like maybe when they made some new speed record and had everyone involved sign the poster? I found one possible person who may habe been one of the many who signed it, wrote an email but haven't recieved a reply, though I should check the spam folder as sometimes emails not meant for that folder can get misplaced there by the server. Whatever the event was, then maybe it does make the poster of some value especially for educational reasons or just a poster everyone signed for someone who maybe retired, then passed away and the family sold it at an estate sale? If it's some event then I'd like to see it go to some place where everyone can enjoy looking at it. Thanks everyone for the feedback, maybe there's no mystery at all here, just a signed poster. Phil Anderson
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Post by Jim on Apr 26, 2011 12:50:00 GMT 9
Because it is a 318th FIS photo, perhaps you could donate it to the museum at McCord and Bullhunter or Sixerfixer would be good points of contact...... Sure would be nice if the person would reply back and shed some light on the What, why and when of your photo......... Good luck........ The Old Sarge
BTW, Please keep us informed..............
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Post by Bullhunter on Apr 27, 2011 0:37:31 GMT 9
signedposter,,,I was not uncommon for individuals to receive posters, prints, photo, or a plack upon a PCS move. Some were signed and some were not. If you received a signed one it was cherished. I've signed several of these over the years for departing 318th individuals. When I left McChord and the 318th in 1978 I received the poster I posted above (Just the poster no signatures). I suspect the reason for this was: My first few months I worked the Combustion Starter shop & test cell. When we were not busy I assisted in the main engine overhaul shop. I was always working and helping out someplace. Then one day I had to pick something up in the orderly room. I was sitting, waiting, and relaxing when a person walked in the door in a flightsuit and said to me, "How are things going Sgt?" Without thinking I responded, "Not worth a $hit sir." Then it started, he came back with, "Whats the problem Sgt Price?" as he glanced at my nametag. I was thinking to myself, how do I get my foot back out of my mouth? I quickly said, "You don't want to know Sir." His reply, "Yes I do, come into my office!" We talked at least 30 minutes or more. There was no hidding anything now. I told him that the NCOIC : of the main overhall shop was ordering marine grade plywood with squadron funds and putting it in his pickup truck and using it on his boat. He was also having a sexual affair with a female : in the engine shop that his wife was yelling at him in the shop parking lot one day and said, "Just give her a good f- -K and she will leave you alone!" It was lunch time and many of the shop airman observed this. I mentioned to the commander, "Now that I have reported this to you - I can't work there anymore." The commander agreed and had me transfered to the flightline which was on the far side of the base. The Commander then sent a : to the main engine shop to supervise and watch the : . This new : was not a maintenace career field person but admin. My new NCOIC of the flightline was also a : and wanted to know what the heck was going on. So I told him the truth. After 2 1/2 years on the flightline I decided I needed a change and put in far a long tour in West Germany and went to Sembach Air Base. There I quickly made : . When I left the flightline shop my last day I was given that poster without any signatures. When you stick your neck out for what is good and right you usually pay some cost of doing it. After my 4 year tour in Europe I went back to McChord in the 62MAW. There I worked the C-130 engine shop and made :e7new and I later was shop chief for awhile and made sure troops that PCS got posters.. I moved to Maintenance Supervision for several years then to the Museum. .Below is a very neat picture that was being sold in the McChord Air Museum Gift Shop when I was the Director/Administrator. It was made into a post-card. I've never seen a poster, print, or a large photo.
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Post by tmbak on Apr 27, 2011 10:58:38 GMT 9
I was the Crew Chief on 59-057 in 1963, second aircraft from bottom, when the aircraft had these tail markings. I am unable to read any of the signatures on the picture to see if I might recognize any of them from that time frame.
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Post by pat perry on Apr 27, 2011 23:26:50 GMT 9
I was the Crew Chief on 59-057 in 1963, second aircraft from bottom, when the aircraft had these tail markings. I am unable to read any of the signatures on the picture to see if I might recognize any of them from that time frame. Tom Hi Tom, maybe the poster of this poster can type the names in a post so we can do some research. We may even have a forum member who was listed on the poster but who seldom checks in. There are 335 registered members of the 318th in our Alumni Registry. pat p :teacher
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Post by signedposter on May 10, 2011 10:18:52 GMT 9
Thanks All,
This is fascinating to me mostly because I'm USAF honorable discharge and enjoy flying, planes, etc. I play Aces High the game which some retired folks who flew WWII planes really get into it.
I'm grateful for the input and will try to get a better photograph on a tripod I have but just haven't had time to mess around with my new photography room I set up with two 1000 watt lights, so I'll try to edit it in Photoshop to show nice clear signatures. There is one signature signed only "The Chief" of the right top corner of the poster itself that is difficult to photograph however I get a sense of this being maybe some important brass?? I'm up for any other suggestions or input and again Thank You All. Ya'll are the best!
Phil Anderson
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Post by signedposter on May 10, 2011 10:31:13 GMT 9
Just to mention:
Bullhunter,
The photo on the card looks kind of like the planes on the poster, maybe from the same, not sure, I'll need to look closer to the tail insignias. Great work all! I'm really proud to be USAF and really like this forum. I know what it's like being effected by other people's scandels in life Bullhunter. especially when one works hard to maintain the integrity of those in charge who didn't know and end up taking responsibility and others try to take all the credit for your hard work we're asked to do in the first place to help make it right somehow. Glad you enjoyed the tour overseas. : ) Glad to hear when something good came out of being honest.
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Post by LBer1568 on May 10, 2011 22:25:12 GMT 9
CMSgt Chevron (1994–present) Chief Master Sergeant (CMSgt) is the ninth, and highest, enlisted rank in the U.S. Air Force, just above Senior Master Sergeant, and is a senior non-commissioned officer. The official term of address is "Chief Master Sergeant" or "Chief". As a retired Chief it was common for troops to refer to us as "The Chief". It's a sign of respect.
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Post by ma1marv on May 11, 2011 0:39:40 GMT 9
Sorry Chief - but you are wrong.
There is one rank higher than E-9. There is the Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force who holds the rank of E-10.
Any one of the enlisted today can achieve that rank - as long as all the squares get filled and they are basically in the right jobs throughout their career.
Hey I was promoted enough times to be an E-9 - too bad that a couple of thoses were to E-3 - again!!! I will NEVER- NEVER- NEVER- have anything to do with a redhead again!!!!! I SWEAR! :green-beer :green-beer :drunk
MArv :fire_missle_ani :patriotic-flagwaver
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Post by MOW on May 11, 2011 7:05:27 GMT 9
Sorry Chief - but you are wrong. There is one rank higher than E-9. There is the Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force who holds the rank of E-10. Any one of the enlisted today can achieve that rank - as long as all the squares get filled and they are basically in the right jobs throughout their career. Hey I was promoted enough times to be an E-9 - too bad that a couple of thoses were to E-3 - again!!! I will NEVER- NEVER- NEVER- have anything to do with a redhead again!!!!! I SWEAR! MArv No, actually Marv it's called E-9 Special now, not E-10.
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