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Post by grizzlyman on Sept 29, 2011 4:34:12 GMT 9
Hello, I am looking for info. regarding the wording on the external fuel tanks of Delta Darts from the 120th FIG. They are spelled in white letters on the blue arrowheads. I cannot make it out from the photos on the web page. I am modeling a 106 from the group based out of Great Falls, and would like to be as factual as possible. Is there anyone on the forum who can help me out?
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Post by Mark O on Sept 29, 2011 5:32:07 GMT 9
Hi, and welcome to the forums. The wording on the tanks is... "120th Ftr Intcp Grp Great Falls" Minus the quotes of course, and in a script font. Are you planning on making these markings yourself? If you're building in 1/48 scale I'd recommend these Eagle Strike decals. (Part #48220) www.amazon.com/Six-F-106-Montana-Program-decals/dp/B003GB4NBMGood luck! Oh, I forgot to add. You have to post some photos of the F-106 model when you finish it. Heck, you can even keep us posted with some in-progress shots if you like!
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Post by Mark O on Sept 29, 2011 10:08:43 GMT 9
Since your post on the 186th FIS I started poking around some photos, and discovered something I never noticed before. When the 186th first got their Sixes, they used the "round" ANG badge on the tail - that I knew. What I never noticed was the markings on the tanks were a bit different. Notice here it just says "120th Ftr Grp Great Falls". (I know, it's a bit hard to see, but it does!) Later, and I don't know when, they went to the shield, and the more photographed "120th Ftr Intcp Grp Great Falls" markings appeared. I actually have some of those old round ANG decals, but would have to do some serious cutting and pasting to make the correct tank markings. The font, and the arrow look the same, so that would help. Maybe.... :scratch_head Mark
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Post by Mark O on Sept 29, 2011 10:36:31 GMT 9
Oh yea. Don't forget that the Montana ANG Sixes had "Russian Interior Blue" painted for their cockpit color. You can kind of see it in this photo. The story is the color was based on the color of MiG-25 Foxbats. Specifically, the MiG-25 that Viktor Belenko defected with when he flew to Japan in 1976! (So, if you do an early version, they probably hadn't painted their interiors yet.) BTW, the aircraft in this photo is the same one the Eagle Strike decals represent with some major differences. This one has the white trim around the BLUE unit number 14 (the others were black), and it has the command stripes. The Eagle Strike decals do not depict these additions. (I wish they did!!) Google Montana ANG F-106 cockpit color, or some variation of that, and I'm sure you'll find plenty of info. Mark Edit: Oh, if I'm telling you stuff you already know I'm sorry. A bunch of visitors here love this stuff though! (Or so I'm told!) I definitely do!!
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Post by grizzlyman on Oct 6, 2011 4:01:28 GMT 9
Actually you have been extremely helpful. I knew that I could count on some hardcore forum folks to have the information I needed. I grew up living next to Hill AFB in Utah, so I have always had an affinity for all things aviation. We did not see too many Sixes. A lot of f4's and 105's until they switched over to 16's. I miss the sound of a good thud taking off. Dang noise ordinances anyway.
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Post by grizzlyman on Oct 6, 2011 4:03:59 GMT 9
And yes, I am building 1:48 scale, so I would be very interested in any decals you have laying around. I very much appreciate your help interpreting the wording. I could just barely make that out, but I would have felt pretty dumb if I had gotten wrong.
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Post by grizzlyman on Oct 6, 2011 4:12:18 GMT 9
Thanks for the tip on the decal sheet at Amazon. I did not think I would be able to track one down. I was prepared to buy Testor's decal software and some decal paper sheets.
One thing I appreciate about the forum(s) is the amount of detail that little questions can generate from the folks who flew and maintained these birds.
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Post by MOW on Oct 6, 2011 5:22:01 GMT 9
grizzly, yea we need some pics of your project :2thumbsup
And :welcome to our flightline
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Post by Mark O on Oct 6, 2011 9:51:21 GMT 9
And yes, I am building 1:48 scale, so I would be very interested in any decals you have laying around. I very much appreciate your help interpreting the wording. I could just barely make that out, but I would have felt pretty dumb if I had gotten wrong. Glad to be of some help Grizzlyman! Actually, I'm one of the few guys here that didn't work on the F-106. (Gotcha!) I've sat in one, seen plenty, and am sort of the adopted step-child around here. My background is the US Army, then the USAF as a KC-135E/R/T crew chief, then I cross-trained as a C-130E/H Flight Engineer, and am recently retired from that job. I do consider myself somewhat of an aggressive researcher, though certainly not an expert. Modeling is my on again-off again hobby, and I do have quite the unfinished collection of models, and decals including the 186th FIS. Someday I'll have to create a database of what I have! For now my decal collection is spoken for, however. By the way, if you can't get those decals from Amazon do a google search for that set. I found a few other sellers, but just listed the Amazon one. Again, keep us updated on the kit progress! Mark One of the last times I saw a 186th FIS Six. Fairchild AFB, 1982. Edit: Oh yea, when you build the Revell/Monogram F-106 kit, and plan on putting 186th FIS markings on it you must use the "round eye" instrument panel from the kit, and not an aftermarket "tape" panel. From everything I've read, Montana did not fly any of the aircraft with the "tape" panel.
If I am wrong on this, someone with confirmed info please correct me!
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Post by chaplain on Jan 8, 2012 14:31:04 GMT 9
This might be kinda late for your project, but when I worked on the drone project, the head of our flight line team was a guy named Denny Dean. He was the head of the flight line crew for the Great Falls Montana squadron and as far as I know he still lives in Great Falls. I have no other contact information on Denny, but IF you could locate him he would definitely help you in any way he could.
Drop my name Tom Hogle and he will give you any info you want. I worked with him at AEL in Illinois on the project.
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Post by grizzlyman on Mar 10, 2012 2:57:42 GMT 9
It has been a little while since I posted my request for additional details about Montana ANG F-106's. I have completed that project and would like to post some photos of it. I hope it passes muster with the folks who know these planes so well.
Having never posted pics on a forum, can someone educate me on the process?
Thanks
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Post by pat perry on Mar 10, 2012 5:35:26 GMT 9
It has been a little while since I posted my request for additional details about Montana ANG F-106's. I have completed that project and would like to post some photos of it. I hope it passes muster with the folks who know these planes so well. Having never posted pics on a forum, can someone educate me on the process? Thanks Grizzlyman, 1- To post pics on the forum you can use the feature built into the forum... see this thread for instructions: forum.f-106deltadart.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=tip&thread=2291&page=1#20268Or 2- You can join a photo hosting site like WebShots.com or Photobucket.com, Flickr, Imageshack, etc or review more of them at WikipediaA lot of our guys here like PhotoBucket and I use WebShots. If you don't have hundreds or thousands of pictures to put on a sharing site, I'd recommend you use option 1 above. It's simple but limited to one picture per post that is less than 1 megabyte in size. The upside of that is you make more posts and you can go into great text detail about each picture. The downside is that your picture will be a thumbnail size and readers will have to click on it to view it in full size. One more upside. If you use option 2 and later quit the site all the pictures you've posted will become broken links and we will lose them. If you use option 1 they will always be on this forum. I will post an example here. Pat P.
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Post by sixfixer on Mar 11, 2012 22:51:34 GMT 9
Hello Grizzlyman -
Thought I'd throw in a picture I took of 57-2476 "03" at the McChord Scout -O- Ramma (Air Show) in 1984, its a black and white picture, but it is a good shot of the details on the tank -
One other detail, MT ANG used a metallic blue for their squadron marks - one of the simpler designs, but one of my favorites !
Good Luck with the build !
Ernie
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Post by tmbak on Mar 12, 2012 1:49:09 GMT 9
You are right Mark the Montana 6's were all round eye aircraft. One other thing the Montana guys did was to gold plate all of the connector pins in their MA1 boxes which made the system very reliable. I had the pleasure of working with the Montana guys on several occasions.
One of the most memorable times I had with the Montana boys was in the late 70's. I was a Msgt stationed at McChord and there was a one week six ship deployment to Colorado and I was the one and only guy that was sent to maintain the aircraft. The Montana guys were also there with six aircraft and six crew chiefs. The schedule was to fly two six ship sorties each day. I had one power unit and three air compressors to use. When it came time to launch three aircraft would start using the compressors and three would start off internal air. The Montana guys had the same schedule and after their aircraft were started a couple of their guys would come and help me kick chocks. The best part of the whole thing was that after a day of flying we would all go out for a couple of pop's!!!
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Post by grizzlyman on Aug 22, 2012 4:36:39 GMT 9
Thanks you all for the tips and assistance. Here is the first photo of my Montana ANG 106 build job.
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Post by grizzlyman on Aug 22, 2012 4:38:43 GMT 9
Here is the second. Overall a fun project and a model that I proudly display in my office.
Grizzlyman
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Post by Gene on Aug 22, 2012 4:49:39 GMT 9
gosh! they look so real...and the photography is outstanding... i was born at great falls afb in '50.... makes me proud!!
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Post by Jim Scanlon (deceased) on Aug 22, 2012 4:51:50 GMT 9
Grizzlyman, that looks great. :salute
The way it is positioned, it looks like the real thing.
You are to be commended for a wonderful model, of a wonderful airplane.
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Post by MOW on Aug 22, 2012 5:42:29 GMT 9
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Post by grizzlyman on Aug 22, 2012 6:46:15 GMT 9
I am glad that it passes muster with the "six" experts. You folks are great, keep up the good work.
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